Rand Paul’s Dishonest Tap Dance on Vaccines

Sen. Rand Paul, trapped between pandering to the ignorant and not looking like an idiot, went on CNN and, in addition to condescending to the anchor asking him questions, declared based on totally anonymous anecdotes, that vaccines caused “profound mental disorders.”

“I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines,” Paul said. “I’m not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. I think they’re a good thing. But I think the parents should have some input.”

Asked for evidence of those claims, Paul campaign spokesman Sergio Gor didn’t address them and instead said that while Paul largely supports vaccines, “many” should be voluntary.

So now he’s backing down, with this highly dishonest statement:

On Tuesday, Paul further clarified his stance, saying he didn’t say vaccines caused disorders.

“I did not say vaccines caused disorders, just that they were temporally related — I did not allege causation. I support vaccines, I receive them myself and I had all of my children vaccinated,” Paul said in a statement. “In fact today, I received the booster shot for the vaccines I got when I went to Guatemala last year.”

If you didn’t allege causation, why was your statement in any way relevant? If the conversation is about whether people should get vaccines and you claim that people got “profound mental disorders after vaccines,” it couldn’t possibly be relevant if you aren’t claiming causation. If there’s no causation, then your statement is totally irrelevant to the conversation.

He’s just lying. He absolutely meant to claim that vaccines cause mental disorders, but he realized afterward that saying that made him look like a moron. So he invented this ridiculous explanation to get out of it. And this guy went to medical school, for crying out loud. If anyone should know better…

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  • wreck

    “not looking like an idiot”

    Epic fail on that one.

  • Saad

    It’s only because he realized that puts him a little too close to the Sarah Palin types. He wants to be able to say stupid stuff while also being somewhat electable.

  • Sastra

    This is possibly part of the Oprah Winfrey Effect. Several years ago my mom told me that she’d seen Oprah do an interview with several mothers who had videos of seemingly normal, smiling, cooing babies just learning their first words. Then they showed what their children were like after they got vaccinated. No smiles, no words, no eye contact. The infants regressed. The implication was that this simply doesn’t happen “naturally.” You never lose what you have unless there’s been some evil intervention. Very powerful stuff. My mom ‘saw it for herself.’

    But that’s apparently one of the symptoms of autism, this type of regression. Oprah of course had nobody explaining this, or examining the earlier videos for signs of incipient problems, which quite possibly may have been there the whole time.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Rand Paul and Michele Bachmann have never been seen in the same room at the same time. Coincidence?

     

    In fact today, I received the booster shot for the vaccines I got when I went to Guatemala last year.

    Now do you see how bad Obamacare is? Last year he had to go all the way to Guatemala for vaccines! Thanks, Obama!

  • wreck

    “Sen. Rand Paul, trapped between pandering to the ignorant and not looking like an idiot”

    Could be worse. He could come off looking like a lying sack of shit.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    And this guy went to medical school, for crying out loud. If anyone should know better…

    Did he really? The fact that he had to make up his own “board” so self-certify himself strongly implies he either flunked out of school, went to a bogus diploma-mill, or made up his degree just like he made up his “board certification.” This obnoxious little brat is a quack and con-artist all around. Has he walked back any of his claims that you could get ebola at a cocktail party?

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    More of the Gotcha! Journalism!

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    And this guy went to medical school, for crying out loud. If anyone should know better…

    Sorry, but I’ve known way too many med students to think that going to a medical school makes people know better.

    #notallmedstudents

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    The fact that he had to make up his own “board” so self-certify himself strongly implies he either flunked out of school, went to a bogus diploma-mill, or made up his degree just like he made up his “board certification.”

    He has an actual medical degree from Duke University, which last I checked is not a diploma mill. He is not, however, a board-certified ophthalmologist. You can apparently practice that without board certification — it’s kind of frowned on but not illegal — which is what he did before he quit medicine to become Ron Paul’s full-time son.

  • karmacat

    Rand Paul introduced his own board because the present boards for certification in different specialties are basically money making schemes. He was objecting to having to be recertified every 10 years. It is very doubtful that the recertification process makes better doctors. Not having board certification just means not doing a multiple choice test at the end of your residency

  • colnago80

    Re Raging Bee @ #6

    It appears that Paul attended Duke Medical School and completed a residency in ophthalmology several years later. Apparently, he did not graduate from Baylor with a BA but was admitted early to Duke.

    Considering people like Michael Egnor, Ben Carson, and Paul Braun who also have legitimate medical degrees, it should not be surprising that some fraction of doctors are whackjobs.

    My suspicion is that Paul knows better and is just pandering. After all, that’s what Rethuglicans do.

    http://www.kentucky.com/2010/08/05/1377392/contrary-to-some-media-reports.html

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Raging Bee “Has he walked back any of his claims that you could get ebola at a cocktail party?”

    Why? I did. Still, that ebolatini was tasty.

  • colnago80

    Re karmacat @ #10

    Citation needed for claims about board certification.

  • busterggi

    You see, this is where I find a reason to respect Rand Paul – he’s intelligent enough to know when he is lying while so many of his compatriots lie without ever realizing it.

  • thebookofdave

    I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines

    So have I, but only to Rand Paul. I haven’t linked coorelation to causation, though.

  • eric

    And this guy went to medical school, for crying out loud. If anyone should know better…

    He does know better – he even basically said so, by admitting that he had all his kids vaccinated. But he would happily endanger the lives of constituents’ children in order to pander to their vote.

    “I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines,” Paul said….”and I thank each of them for helping me reach 8:1 odds of getting the GOP nod for president in 2016.”

    FIFY, Rand.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Rand Paul introduced his own board because the present boards for certification in different specialties are basically money making schemes.

    That’s what every quack and con-artist says when someone tries to hold him to a higher (or even so-so) standard of conduct or professionalism. Having to get a drivers’ license is a money-making scheme too, and so is having to pass a health or safety inspection for a place of business.

    Not having board certification just means not doing a multiple choice test at the end of your residency

    It must be a really tough test, if Rand Paul preferred to create his own fake board rather than take it.

  • John Pieret

    He’s just lying.

    A politician lying? That’s unprecedented!

  • dan4

    @18 Are you just trolling? What the fuck’s the point of your cloying sarcasm? That if x (“x” in this case=”politicians lying”) is not uncommon, then individual examples of x shouldn’t be criticized?

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    *looks over edge*

    Looks like dan4 fell into the sarchasm…

    You okay down there?

  • John Pieret

    WMDKitty — Survivor:

    More like he deliberately jumped. I think he’ll heal.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    John Pieret

    Oh. Ok.

  • dan4

    Translation of @20 ,@21: “If someone criticizes a sarcastic comment, then that automatically means they didn’t understand said comment was meant to be sarcastic, even when the criticism explicitly noted this fact (“…the point of your cloying sarcasm?”). Idiots.

  • John Pieret

    If someone criticizes a sarcastic comment, then that automatically means they didn’t understand said comment was meant to be sarcastic, even when the criticism explicitly noted this fact

    No, more like self-important assholes make a big deal about a throw-away line because … well … they are self-important assholes. Since the rest of us recognize the self-important assholes for what they are, we snigger at them.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    dan4

    Yeah, yeah, fuck off.

  • dan4

    @24: “Snigger?” Wow, way to prove me wrong when I called you an “idiot.”

    @25: No.

  • John Pieret

    Yep, snigger, bright light.

  • Al Dente

    Should someone inform dan4 about the first rule of holes? Or chasms in his case?

  • dingojack

    It’s OK, he didn’t get seriously hurt — all those strawmen he was strewing about broke his fall.

    😉 Dingo

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    As long as he’s not hurt! :3