Graham: Secularists Have Taken Over America!

Always eager to play the faux-persecution card, Franklin Graham told a conference in Oklahoma that secularists have taken over the United States and now control the country. Gee, I hadn’t noticed that. Maybe I’d find it more believable if I had any chance of getting elected to public office as an atheist.

Addressing the crowd at the Oklahoma State Evangelism Conference last week, world-renowned evangelist Franklin Graham admittedly took a different spin than his iconic father, Billy Graham, on the podium and criticized America, declaring that “secularists have taken control of our country.”

The president of the Billy Graham Evangelist Association admonished believers in America for standing by while godless, democratically appointed government officials rip the Christian foundation of the country out from under them.

“Our country has changed, and we’ve got to take a stand,” Graham exhorted the Oklahoma City crowd, according to The Christian Post. “We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives. Secularists … have taken control of our country. And we have just sat back and it’s happened. And we haven’t even realized it’s happened.”

After the NFC championship game won by the Seattle Seahawks, wide receiver Doug Baldwin burst through the door of the locker room and began yelling at reporters about how no one gave any respect to the Seahawks and nobody thought they could win, but they believed in themselves and that’s why they’re going to the Super Bowl. Never mind that the Seahawks were defending champions, had home field advantage throughout the playoffs with the best record in the NFC and were favored to win that game by more than a touchdown.

This is the Christian equivalent of that. Never mind that they are 70% of the population and 92% of elected officials, they’re the ones that don’t have any power. Never mind that atheists have virtually no chance of being elected to public office at any level and that the mere accusation of being an atheist is enough to ensure a loss on polling day, atheists control everything! And their followers eat this shit up by the shovel full, so eager to cast themselves as the poor, downtrodden underdog.

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  • wreck

    “secularists have taken control of our country.”

    If only.

    “We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives.”

    …who are trying to impose Sharia law on us!

  • Reginald Selkirk

    “We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives.”

    Don’t we all wish? This morning PZ had a link to this article:

    Here Are the 56 Percent of Congressional Republicans Who Deny Climate Change

  • John Pieret

    And we haven’t even realized it’s happened.

    What? … With you and the rest of the religious right leaders screaming about secularism for lo these many years? You guys need to work on your communication skills!

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    And their followers eat this shit up by the shovel full, so eager to cast themselves as the poor, downtrodden underdog.

    To be fair, I am looking forward to oppressing them terribly. Mostly by pretending to be half of a gay couple and purchasing wedding cakes from them. Their only consolation will be the money I give them in return for their service.

  • blf

    I suspect that to this nutter, “secularists have taken control” means “Franklin Graham does not control”,

    sortof like Number Six asking “Who is Number One?” and getting laughed-at.

  • http://counterapologist.blogspot.com/ Counter Apologist

    I really hate to disagree with you, but there is indeed a solid ring of truth to the claim.

    If “secularists” haven’t taken over the country, at least in some sense, then why are we on the road to national marriage equality, with a majority of states now having equality?

    He didn’t say atheists, he said secularists, of which believers can count themselves members.

  • http://anexerciseinfutility.blogspot.com tommykey

    Graham and his ilk need to keep playing the persecution card to keep the low information masses motivated and angry. If only we had but a fraction of the power he claims we have.

  • Sastra

    Of course, it is doubtful that somebody who came right out and said “Muslims, atheists, Jews, Hindus, pagans, heathens, infidels, and false Christians in other denominations are all being led by Satan and need to be marginalized and treated like the wild animals and souls of perdition they are” could get elected as President, either.

    You have to talk in a sort of code nowadays. Damn secularists.

  • moarscienceplz

    To be fair, I am looking forward to oppressing them terribly. Mostly by pretending to be half of a gay couple and purchasing wedding cakes from them. Their only consolation will be the money I give them in return for their service.

    Modus, you should wear a reversible coat and pretend you are a pair of identical twins marrying each other. THAT would really freak ’em out.

  • Lady Mondegreen

    @Counter Apology

    If “secularists” haven’t taken over the country, at least in some sense, then why are we on the road to national marriage equality, with a majority of states now having equality?

    He doesn’t mean it in the broadest sense; that would be a truism. The US isn’t a theocracy yet.

    A number of Christian denominations have embraced marriage equality.

    Unfortunately, the religious right has managed to set women’s right to bodily autonomy back quite a bit. They have managed to push the Overton Window far enough to the right to endanger Roe v Wade.

    We’re not as secular as all that.

  • llewelly

    Counter Apologist:

    If “secularists” haven’t taken over the country, at least in some sense, then why are we on the road to national marriage equality, with a majority of states now having equality?

    Secularists help win one battle (which isn’t wholly over), and have somehow “taken over the country” despite having have a very long way to go on many other fronts?

    Are you cherry picking or grasping at straws?

  • Pierce R. Butler

    The Son of Billy Graham Is a Mean-Spirited Islamophobic Hate-portunist:

    Graham mimics what he claims to hate.

    I see a golden career of Brian Fischer Awards in Franklin’s future!

  • http://counterapologist.blogspot.com/ Counter Apologist

    Lady Mondegreen & llewelly:

    We have taken over in terms of we are forcing them to abide by what the Constitution says and we are eliminating, albeit slowly, their privilege. They’ve lost on a host of their main issues: School Prayer, Teaching Creationism, Abortion, Criminalization of Homosexuality, and now Marriage Equality.

    There’s no question that as a constituency we’re under represented and they’re over represented. No question that as atheists, we’re discriminated against, especially politically, but you can’t tell me that in some sense the “secularists” have very much won quite a bit.

    Yes they’ve won on a few cases: Hobby Lobby and local abortion laws they’ve passed. Yes that’s bad, yes we have more work to do.

    But you can’t deny we’ve changed the culture, largely against them. Especially when you not only consider the social perception on their key issues: LBGT acceptance, birth control, pre-marital sex, popular rejection of their bigotry, etc.

  • Die Anyway

    I can certainly see some of Counter Apologist’s points. If you are under 50, you probably don’t remember the ‘blue laws’. When I was growing up almost nothing was open on Sunday except churches. The drug store could open but only sell ‘medical’ items. Some restaurants opened but only after 1pm…. and could not serve alcohol on Sunday. Things have changed, a lot. Now-a-days, I go to running races at 8am on Sunday and a thousand people show up, with beer served after the race. That would not have happened in 1955. When I was in high school we had a bible verse and a prayer over the intercom every morning. That’s gone, thank God. 😉 And girls who inexplicably found themselves “in a family way” would suddenly go to live with their aunt in Ohio. Now we have day care centers in high schools. Things have changed. Slowly, to be sure. I am talking about a period of 60 years. It may take 60 more but hopefully it doesn’t go in reverse. Secularism now, secularism forever!

    Eat well, stay fit, Die Anyway

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Die Anyway ” Some restaurants opened but only after 1pm…. and could not serve alcohol on Sunday.”

    My favorite was “can serve alcohol, but with food only, and patrons have to be seated”.

     

    “When I was in high school we had a bible verse and a prayer over the intercom every morning.”

    Luxury! In mine we lined up inside the openings where windows would be, while the principal stood in the courtyard and yelled.

  • mithrandir

    It’s a classic case of the privileged becoming alarmed that their privilege isn’t as strong as once it was. Secularism is no longer summarily dismissed – therefore to those who used to enjoy completely unchallenged dominion over the religious discourse, they treat it as if secularism has “taken over”.

  • matty1

    @15 but if you tell young people today that. ..

  • colnago80

    Re #15

    I can attest to that. Having lived my entire life in California, which had no blue laws, it was quite a culture shock moving to Upstate New York to go to graduate school to discover the blue laws in that state. In particular, food markets closed at 6:00 PM on Saturday and reopened at 8:AM on the following Monday.

  • llewelly

    Counter Apologist :

    They’ve lost on a host of their main issues: School Prayer, Teaching Creationism, Abortion, Criminalization of Homosexuality, and now Marriage Equality.

    They haven’t lost on abortion: http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/government-and-you/state-governments/key-findings-threats-to-choice.html

    http://rhrealitycheck.org/rj-court-watch/rj-court-watch-indiana-convicts-first-pregnant-person-feticide/

  • Synfandel

    I suspect that to this nutter, “secularists have taken control” means “Franklin Graham does not control”,

    sortof like Number Six asking “Who is Number One?” and getting laughed-at.

    While I love the obscure pop culture reference, I don’t see the similarity.

  • Synfandel

    Modusoperandi wrote:

    Die Anyway ” Some restaurants opened but only after 1pm…. and could not serve alcohol on Sunday.”

    My favorite was “can serve alcohol, but with food only, and patrons have to be seated”.

    I ate in a little family-owned Italian restaurant in Provo (or Orem?), Utah, in the 90’s, where they were willing to serve me a glass of wine (for a considerable price), but the menu and several large signs prominently displayed around the dining room warned of the dangers and evils of drinking alcohol.

    As a hotel guest, I automatically got a membership at the hotel’s bar. I ordered a double shot of whisky. The waiter brought me two single shots and a glass and explained that he wasn’t legally allowed to serve a double, but I could combine the shots myself. On another occasion, in the hotel restaurant, I asked for a second glass of wine and the waiter explained that he couldn’t bring a second glass until he took away the first glass.

    I don’t know if such laws are still on the books in Utah, but they clearly did nothing to control alcohol abuse; they merely annoyed and inconvenienced all drinkers. That seems to have been the point.