Limbaugh’s Bizarre Reaction to Domestic Violence PSA

During the Grammy awards there was a short segment devoted to the subject of domestic violence and sexual assault (must have been awkward if Chris Brown was there). It included recorded remarks by President Obama urging artists to speak out against those things. You’d think this would be uncontroversial and universally lauded, but not for the right wing:

Obama said on the show that more than 25 percent of U.S. women has experienced domestic violence, and that nearly 20 percent has either been raped or been the victim of a rape attempt. His short pre-recorded statement was followed by remarks from activist and domestic violence survivor Brooke Axtell.

“It’s not okay. And it has to stop,” Obama said on Sunday. “Artists have a unique power to change minds and attitudes. And get us thinking and talking about what matters.”…

“This would also mean that, if Obama is right and 25 percent of American women have experienced domestic violence, then 39.51 million women in the country — which is more than the population of California — are victims of such violence,” Limbaugh said.

Okay. And therefore….what, exactly? “That’s a really big number, I don’t think it’s true” is not exactly a compelling argument.

Instead, he said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators, that’s their natural state and women are at high risk every day of their lives in this country. And Obama is now throwing gasoline on that fire and using totally made up statistics.”

Nope, not made up. Backed up by multiple studies, including a recent one from the Centers for Disease control based on interviews with 12,000 people. Oh, I know Limbaugh wants those statistics to be made up. I’m sure his braindead listeners do too. But it’s not.

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  • eric

    Instead, he said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators…

    Non sequitur. Unless women are capable of some sort of self-immolating jedi mind trick, thinking someone is a predator is not going to cause them to assault you. The notion cannot cause the assault rate.

  • dingojack

    This would also mean that, if Obama is right and 25 percent of American women have experienced domestic violence, then 39.51 million women in the country — which is more than the population of California — are victims of such violence,”

    Yep, that’s about the size of the problem Rush.

    Oh wait, he’s never been a women who has been threatened, raped, beaten and/or killed by an abusive partner — therefore it simply can’t be true.

    @@

    Dingo

  • Sastra

    he said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators, that’s their natural state and women are at high risk every day of their lives in this country.

    Uh oh. Modern feminists should know better than to get all bitchy and provoke men like that. Try being nicer and smiling more. You don’t want to set them off.

  • wreck

    Feminazis I tell ya! It’s all the Feminazis’ fault! Pass the oxycontin!

    /Limbaugh mode

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Look, modern feminism has changed the boundaries between men and women. It’s taboo now, for example, for a man to slap a woman. Or to push her down. Or to knock her out cold in an elevator. And “she was asking for it” is no longer considered an adequate and laudible defense.

     

    This is bad for some reason.

  • caseloweraz

    Standard Limbaugh silliness: Equating the fact that some percentage of women in this country have suffered violence with the claim that all men are vile predators. Only to be expected from the man who suggested a female critic should sit on a fire hydrant.

  • themadtapper

    Instead, he said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators, that’s their natural state and women are at high risk every day of their lives in this country.

    Quite the opposite, modern feminism has fueled the notion that violence against women is a LEARNED behavior, reinforced by antiquated cultural norms that need to be changed.

  • scienceavenger

    If any statistic is made up, it’s Rush’s, which seems to include all females, even little kids. It’s probably closer to 30 million. Yeah, I know, so much better /snark.

    Rush is taking advantage of two things here: our tribal inability to process very large numbers, and the difficulty a lot of people have of accepting a dark reality that they themselves never witness or even hear about. Most men just can’t seem to grasp that most women who are victims of rape just want to memory to go away, rather than make any kind of public spectacle about it.* So they think “well I know lots of women, and none of them has ever told me about being raped, so Obama is full of it.” And that doesn’t even get into the ones that make excuses for the rapist.

    *Prime example: the lawmakers who didn’t think a woman ought to be allowed to evoke the rape-exception to get an abortion unless they reported the rape to the police. That was too much even for pro-life GOP women.

  • scienceavenger

    he said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators, that’s their natural state and women are at high risk every day of their lives in this country.

    This is completely backwards. Modern feminism says men are fully capable of controling their urges and behaving themselves. It is those who slut-shame women, claiming their behavior or clothing prompted their rape, that treat men as mindless predators.

  • dugglebogey

    In Limbaugh’s mind half the women who claim to have been assaulted are lying, and the other half are sluts who probably deserved it.

  • matty1

    What a horrible excuse for a human being. Surely there is a fungus somewhere that could use the oxygen currently being wasted on Rush Limbaugh

  • cptdoom

    My extended family spent more than two years actively defending my mother’s first cousin from her violent and mentally ill ex-husband who tried to kill her on multiple occasions, including once in front of the principal of her kids’ Catholic school (which did speed up her annulment). At the worst of his stalking, when the police would do nothing, we had to have a male family member staying at her house every night to keep him at bay. You can imagine the stress in her and her daughters’ lives.

    The experience drove my mother to volunteer for a local women’s shelter, eventually becoming the president of its board of directors. The stories she told us would make your hair curl, and demonstrated to my whole family the broad extent of the problem. Women from every conceivable background and economic class moved through that shelter and my family was actively recruited to assist efforts to protect them as they made new lives. I would routinely be asked to mail letters to the relatives of some of the women, who were in a kind of underground witness protection program, in new cities with new names, to ensure their still obsessed ex-husbands couldn’t locate them. Because I take a lot of business trips, I could ensure the letters never had the same postmark, that’s how paranoid these women had to be just to live.

    The most appalling experience for me was when I was still in college and asked to help my father bring a new fridge to the shelter. Men were not normally supposed to know its location, but the board didn’t want to risk random delivery men finding it out. When we brought the fridge in, terrified women and children literally fled the room and refused to come out of their rooms until we left. I cannot imagine the trauma they went through to make them so scared.

    Anyone who does not have experience with the problem should just shut their mouths, but ignorance has never been a reason for Limbaugh to shut his trap.

  • eric

    Rush is taking advantage of two things here: our tribal inability to process very large numbers, and the difficulty a lot of people have of accepting a dark reality that they themselves never witness or even hear about.

    There things, really. You forgot culturally prevalent sexism.

  • tbp1

    As I have said elsewhere, if the President came out in favor of ice cream, Rush Limbaugh would accuse him of wanting to slaughter the lactose intolerant. He not only reflexively disagrees with anything at all that Mr. Obama says, no matter how innocuous, he finds a way to make it sinister.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    tbp1 “As I have said elsewhere, if the President came out in favor of ice cream, Rush Limbaugh would accuse him of wanting to slaughter the lactose intolerant.”

    Sure, but to be fair, Obama.

     

    “He not only reflexively disagrees with anything at all that Mr. Obama says, no matter how innocuous, he finds a way to make it sinister.”

    Damn Obama for putting him in this position! Imagine how hard it must be for Rush, having to spend three hours a day keeping white men angry! And all he has to show for it is millions and millions of dollars!

  • Michael Heath

    Rush Limbaugh states:

    Obama said on the show that more than 25 percent of U.S. women has experienced domestic violence, and that nearly 20 percent has either been raped or been the victim of a rape attempt.

    [Rush Limbaugh] said “modern feminism” had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators. . .

    [Heath-only bolded]

    Limbaugh’s such an idiot he falsifies his conclusion with his own premise. Yet his audience is even more idiotic that Limbaugh has become very rich and powerful making such arguments.

  • grasshopper

    Dear old Rush exhibits all the symptoms of Ignorexia Verbosa.

  • marcus

    Sastra @ 3 “Uh oh. Modern feminists should know better than to get all bitchy and provoke men like that. Try being nicer and smiling more. You don’t want to set them off.

    And wear something nice, but not too provocative, or they might rape you. Simple.

  • themadtapper

    Limbaugh’s such an idiot he falsifies his conclusion with his own premise.

    It’s even more wrong than it seems at a glance. While even at a 1:1 ratio the statistic he cites would at best suggest 25% of men being predators, that would require an assumption of 1:1, which is certainly not the case. While there certainly are some cases of a single woman being the victim of more than one domestic abuser, which might skew the ratio toward more predators than victims, any such gains are wiped away by the predators that are multiple offenders. You know, the ones that are PREDATORS and not just one-offs. The statistic he cites overwhelmingly supports the idea that a small, but significant, minority of men are predators. He’s not just falsifying his own conclusion with the premise, he’s SPECTACULARLY falsifying his own conclusion.

  • lorn

    It might help to remember that Rush Limbaugh got rich saying such things. His net worth is estimated at 400 million dollars. Please, don’t hurt the desk.

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rush-limbaugh-net-worth/

  • leni

    His net worth is estimated at 400 million dollars.

    That’s a lot of, um, cabbage.

  • moarscienceplz

    Of course Limpbag thinks the statistic is made up. All of his are, so why shouldn’t everyone else’s be?

  • StevoR

    Also from the Plutonian Far Right wing* on rape stats we have Anne Coulter’s column here which confidently assetrs a lot of states and studies that I think most here would say are badly wrong yes? :

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-12-17.html

    “ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR ROLLING STONE ARE MORONS Anne Coulter posted December 17, 2014.

    Coulter cites a supposed study of college rapes by the dept of Justice under Obama & of the usually cited figure claims its (only?) from :

    Susan Brownmiller’s 1975 book, “Against Our Will” — which sourced the claim to a mimeograph of a speech by a state court judge, who made a passing remark about a New York police precinct with an all-female rape squad. Nothing more is known about whether this was an actual study, and if so, what was examined, how the information was collected or the actual results. Nor can any trace of the speech, the precinct or the data be found.

    I take it she’s totally wrong about this and her own claimed stats in that are absurdly inaccurate too, correct?

    * Or is she one long Poe and / or “Deep Cover Liberal” as sometimes alleged?

  • theguy

    ““modern feminism”

    Could Shitbaugh even define feminism? Doubt it.

    “had fueled “the notion that men are predators and that all men are predators, that’s their natural state”

    Previous commenters have addressed this straw-man above.

    “and women are at high risk every day of their lives in this country”

    Guess what, asshole? Many women are at high risk.

    “And Obama is now throwing gasoline on that fire and using totally made up statistics.”

    Obama’s trying to do the right thing here, so of course Shitbaugh blames him.

  • lofgren

    In all fairness that is such a huge number that initial skepticism seems warranted. And as a man who has never committed domestic abuse pr raped anyone, it’s tempting to conclude that 25% of women are dating some real assholes. Obviously this is the very definition of victim blaming, and resisting the urge to believe things just because they make me feel better is what makes me a better person than Rush Limbaugh. Shit, I’m doing it right now, aren’t I?

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    Sensible person: “Wow, that number seems high. Let me verify that…”

    Rush: “Wow, that number seems high. Therefore it is false.”

  • lofgren

    More like “That number contradicts my narrative. It must be liberals out to get me.”

  • arakasi

    Limbaugh is not stupid. He learned a long time ago how to stoke the egos of the rich/wannabe rich white asshole demographic. When combined with a talent to talk for 3 hours a day extemporaneously, this has made him a very wealthy man.

    It is irrelevant to him whether what he says is true or not. He makes far more money shit-flinging than he would by trying to analyze current events, so he stays as the King of Turd Mountain. Not a bad gig, as long as you are an immoral asshole.

  • caseloweraz

    Just FYI, the reported net worth of some other politicians & celebrities:

    Michelle Bachmann 3m (est.)

    Barbara Boxer 5m

    Hillary Clinton 12.5m

    George Clooney 180m

    Bill Cosby 400m

    Ann Coulter 8.5m

    Dinesh D’Souza 4m

    Clint Eastwood 375m

    Dianne Feinstein 70m

    Newt Gingrich 7m

    Bill O’Reilly 85m

    Sarah Palin 12m

    Dan Rather 70m (est.)

    Pat Robertson 100m

    Phyllis Schlafly ???

    Arnold Schwarzenegger 300m

    Will Smith 220m

    Jon Stewart 80m (salary $25m)

    Barbara Streisand 340m

    Brian Williams 40m

    Beyonce & Jay Z 1,000m (Yes: One billion)

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com Gretchen

    lofgren said:

    In all fairness that is such a huge number that initial skepticism seems warranted. And as a man who has never committed domestic abuse pr raped anyone, it’s tempting to conclude that 25% of women are dating some real assholes. Obviously this is the very definition of victim blaming, and resisting the urge to believe things just because they make me feel better is what makes me a better person than Rush Limbaugh. Shit, I’m doing it right now, aren’t I?

    Is it hard to believe that 25% of men are assholes? 😉

    Every abusive boyfriend was, at one point, a not-abusive boyfriend. For every woman he dates, this is true. So even if every single woman he abused left him the next morning, that’s a lot of opportunities to abuse a lot of women.

    And of course there are many very good reasons why they don’t always leave the next morning. So yeah, that is victim-blaming, as you say.

    But I also felt it important to reiterate that nobody has a magical good boyfriend detector with which to discern which ones are “good catches” and which ones will eventually hit you, scream at you, grab you, etc. Nobody.