Parker: Obama, Secularists Hate America

Star Parker is on quite a roll lately. After claiming that any mention of bad things ever done by Christians is “verbal rape,” now she told Newsmax that Obama and secularists hate America. Oh, and that secularists have taken over the United States. Funny, I hadn’t noticed.

Parker said that the president’s actions have awakened those who “did not notice that we have been as a country taken over by extremists, by secular humanists who have a worldview in statism,” comparing the current political climate to the years before the Civil War…

“I believe that [Obama’s comment] builds the resolve in the American people that Israel’s values are our values, the core fundamental beliefs of America, our exceptionalism, our national allegiance, our limited role of government, our free markets, and our tradition,” she said. “This is what we have in common, and this is what secularists don’t like, and Barack Obama’s a secularist. And, in fact, it’s what he and the Muslims have in common, the radical extreme of Muslims and this president and all secularists have in common is they hate that biblical worldview, so therefore they hate America and they hate Israel.”

OMG! I think she just verbally sodomized me! I’m calling the cops!

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  • wreck

    “OMG! I think she just verbally sodomized me!”

    Ewww! Does that mean you’ve got a load of verbal Santorum to deal with?

  • John Pieret

    After all those whistles, she must be covered in dogs. But I like that bit about the situation being like it was before the Civil War and our “tradition”! Do you know where you’d be, honey, if the “tradition” before the Civil War had lasted?

  • artymart

    Of course…..radical Islamists are secularists (except they want Sharia Law). How could I have missed this.

  • caseloweraz

    What is this anti-semitic attack Parker mentions? The refusal of the president to meet with Netanyahoo?

  • dugglebogey

    Okay, let me get this straight. Muslims are just like Secularists?

    In what universe is that even possibly true?

  • dugglebogey

    I also appreciate Newsmax running “America’s Forum.” How wonderful that they can speak for all Americans. Except non-white Americans. And non-christian Americans. And feminist Americans. And poor Americans. Basically just Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.

  • scienceavenger

    OMG! I think she just verbally sodomized me!

    I think she just sodomized herself, although I am impressed, it took a lot of flexibility to get her head that far up her ass.

  • Trebuchet

    @5: In the World of Wingnut, Islam, Satanism, Atheism, and often Catholocism are all exactly the same thing. Not to mention Judaism, despite their love for Israel, which is only because they want to see it destroyed to bring on the End Times.

  • matty1

    @5 To be fair being Muslim is no more incompatible with secularism as a political view than being Christian is. For example the founder of modern Turkey Kemal Ataturk was probably a Muslim (there seems some debate) and certainly could not have secularised his country without the support of believing Muslims in the army and government.

  • raven

    … comparing the current political climate to the years before the Civil War…

    OMICthulhu, Star Parker accidently said something right.

    Fundie xians are mostly the exact same people who started the Civil War and lost. The Confederacy, the South. The south central USA is their heartland.

    They supported slavery, opposed Desegregation, opposed interraccial marriage (some still do), and opposed most of what has happened in the USA in the last few centuries, women voting, women being admitted to colleges, science haters, democracy haters.

    There is nothing uplifting or positive about their perverted version of xianity.

  • busterggi

    “Israel’s values are our values,”

    Yeah, I really believe Star follows kosher law, which I think qualifies as foreign law btw.

  • Sastra

    … Israel’s values are our values, the core fundamental beliefs of America, our exceptionalism, our national allegiance, our limited role of government, our free markets, and our tradition,” she said. “This is what we have in common, and this is what secularists don’t like

    Interesting. The only thing which defines ‘secularism’ — the separation of church and state and religious neutrality in government — is the only thing missing from that list of core values and beliefs. Where does she say “religion?”

    what … all secularists have in common is they hate that biblical worldview

    Oh, there it is! Biblical.

    So you want a theocracy. Stop screwing around with nonsense about “statism.’

  • raven

    ….and all secularists have in common is they hate that biblical worldview,

    That is quite a lot of gibberish. All she is doing is stringing fundie xian phrases together. It’s all dog whistles without any meaning.

    There is no such thing as a biblical worldview. There are 42,000 xian sects and they differ wildly among themselves on everything. Before we took away their armies and heavy weapons, they used to kill each other over their differences.

    In fact, the majority of Obama voters were…xians. Obama himself is a…xian. Star Parker’s brand of Oogedy Boogedy xianity is a minority both in the USA and in the world.

  • jimmiraybob

    Israel? The secular democratic state? She knows that Judaism, the dominant religion of the peoples there with religion, doesn’t worship Jesus the Christ, right?

  • Sastra

    raven #13 wrote:

    There is no such thing as a biblical worldview. There are 42,000 xian sects and they differ wildly among themselves on everything.

    No, not on everything. Regardless of whether there are 42,000 Christian sects or less, they all agree on one thing: the Bible is a useful means to discover the meaning of God and it’s important to do that.

    Theocrats simply turn “useful” and “important” up to 11.

  • raven

    …the Bible is a useful means to discover the meaning of God and it’s important to do that.

    They say that.

    And then they use the bible and come up with 42,000 different worldviews. It’s self refuting.

    To make it worse, much of what modern xians believe isn’t even found in the bible. They’ve been Making Stuff Up for 2,000 years and saying it is in the bible when it isn’t. The Catholics and Mormons even admit it, No Solo Scriptura. They have Head Prophets who makes stuff up for them.

  • Sastra

    raven #16 wrote:

    They say that.

    And then they use the bible and come up with 42,000 different worldviews. It’s self refuting.

    It’s not self-refuting, technically. It’s testable in that the evidence shows that their method doesn’t work at achieving consensus. If you assume that 1.) God would have chosen a means of communication which was good at conveying a particular intent to all honest seekers and 2.) most Christians are honestly trying to discern the intent — then yes, it’s demonstrably wrong.

    Most Christians deny #2. A few argue against #1, mostly that God doesn’t care about particulars, God doesn’t care about people, or that the Bible reveals to us that His really important ‘book’ is priests or Nature or personal inspirations.

  • theguy

    “Israel’s values are our values, the core fundamental beliefs of America, our exceptionalism, our national allegiance, our limited role of government, our free markets, and our tradition,”

    Never mind that Israel was founded by socialists (ex. Kibbutz collectives)

    “and this is what secularists don’t like, and Barack Obama’s a secularist.”

    No, in fact I’m not keen on flag-waving, the Pledge of Allegiance (although I’m not sure what “national allegiance” means here) libertarian lingo and traditions of discrimination (the only ones Parker cares about)

    ” And, in fact, it’s what he and the Muslims have in common, the radical extreme of Muslims”

    lolwhut?

    “and this president and all secularists have in common is they hate that biblical worldview”

    Yep. I hate any worldview that demands that gay people be discriminated against or killed.

    ” so therefore they hate America and they hate Israel.”

    America (and Israel) aren’t based on a “biblical worldview.” In fact, gay people serve openly in the Israeli military, and the government funds abortions.

    Parker’s just playing Wingnut’s Game of Six Degrees: you don’t believe X, therefore you hate X and Y which is the basis for everything good, therefore you hate America and Jesus and freedom!

  • Anne Fenwick

    I believe that [Obama’s comment] builds the resolve in the American people that Israel’s values are our values…

    What the hell’s Israel got to do with anything?

  • Lady Mondegreen

    Wait, American exceptionalism, “our limited role of government,” and free market fundamentalism are part of “our” “Biblical worldview?”

    Pretty sure those things aren’t promoted in the Bible. I mean, I realize she’s just tossing a word salad. But still.

  • mistertwo

    @20 Lady Mondegreen

    Since I’m still in the closet, I’ve taken to working from the inside to explain to my Christian friends that a Christian could not have taken part in the American Revolution. Jesus in the Bible specifically said “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s”. The whole revolution happened because they Colonists didn’t want to render unto King George what was King George’s. In fact, many did oppose the war on those grounds. The ones who went ahead and revolted had rejected Biblical teaching for the ideas of the Enlightenment. This country was founded on principles of the Enlightenment. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not promised anywhere in the Bible, and are in fact things antithetical to following Christ.

    I don’t know that I’ve convinced anyone, but I’ve actually had a few people go “hmmmm.”

  • Kermit Sansoo

    mistertwo says: This country was founded on principles of the Enlightenment. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are not promised anywhere in the Bible, and are in fact things antithetical to following Christ.

    I don’t know that I’ve convinced anyone, but I’ve actually had a few people go “hmmmm.”

    .

    Coming soon to a theater near you:

    “As we Bible Believers have always said, this is why God has cursed America from the beginning! This is why American patriots have had to fight the liberals so hard to end slavery, to allow racial civil rights, and allow gay marriage rights! America was founded on secularism! Help me, brothers and sisters, to finally bring Jesus into American culture, where he belongs!”

  • howardhershey

    I wonder if she is aware that Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere and does recognize unregistered cohabitation between same sex couples. It is the only Asian country that does so. [Unlike the U.S., there is no such thing as civil marriage; only marriage recognized by specific religious communities. This often means that religiously mixed or non-religious marriage have to marry outside the country although such marriages are then recognized.] Gays are allowed to adopt and serve in the armed forces, and discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is prohibited. Tel Aviv even has a monument dedicated to the gay victims of the Holocaust.

  • lorn

    … “the radical extreme of Muslims and this president and all secularists have in common is they hate that biblical worldview” …

    WTF.

    Would someone please get Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on the phone and remind him that he is a secularist.

  • StevoR

    Oh, and that secularists have taken over the United States. Funny, I hadn’t noticed.

    Well, that was a bit before your time Ed! The secularists took over when the US of A had a its constitution drawn up with that First Amendment about “no established religion and freedom of religion and expression” written in it. So its more like the USA has always been secular than that it’s recently been taken over by ’em!