Fischer Pushes the New Slavery Argument

Once is nothing, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend. This is the third time in less than a week that I’ve heard a Christian right bigot make the argument that making government officials apply the law equally to their constituents is “slavery.” Bryan Fischer is the latest:

“There’s a court hearing today before the federal judge, and she may order these probate judges to violate their own conscience and their own religious scruples,” he said. “She may order them to violate their conscience. You know what that is, ladies and gentlemen? You are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your conscience? That is tyranny.”

“When you are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your own conscience in something that you do, that is slavery. If you are forced to violate your conscience to do work, that is tyranny, that’s Tammy Bruce, that’s the gay gestapo. Tammy Bruce is the one that coined the term ‘gay gestapo.’ That’s the gay gestapo at work. You either do what we tell you or you’re going to get punished.”

So if a Muslim DMV clerk believed that women should not be allowed to drive, it would be “slavery” to force him to issue licenses to women, right? I mean, if we’re going to apply this “reasoning” consistently, it has to be. If one of those probate judges thinks interracial marriage is a sin — and I would be willing to bet some of them are; after all, a whopping 41% of Alabamans voted not to remove the ban on interracial marriage from the state constitution only 15 years ago — then it would be “slavery” to force them to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple, right?

They would say no to both of those questions, of course, but that only demonstrates that they don’t actually believe their own arguments. They’re not making a serious argument, they’re making a pretextual one and engaging in special pleading. As usual, when they say “religious freedom” what they actually mean is Christian privilege. I wonder who it was who invented this argument that is now spreading like wildfire?

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  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Kinda makes me wish they could experience slavery. But I wouldn’t wish that even on a slimeball like Fischer.

  • otrame

    The correct aphorism is once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.

    Slavery is the talking point this week. Like when Jon Stewart shows clips of 7 or 8 Republicans all using the same language to say the same things. Enemy action.

  • D. C. Sessions

    This is the third time in less than a week that I’ve heard a Christian right bigot make the argument that making government officials apply the law equally to their constituents is “slavery.”

    Am I the only one who sees the shadow of Frank Luntz?

  • matty1

    Tammy Bruce and The Gay Gestapo was an awesome cartoon

  • Larry

    Before The Village People…

    Before Michael George…

    Before Boy George…

    There was…

    Tammy Bruce and The Gay Gestapo!!

  • grumpyoldfart

    There’s only one reason clowns like that say things like that – their audience pays money to hear it.

  • alanb

    …a whopping 41% of Alabamans voted not to remove the ban on interracial marriage from the state constitution only 15 years ago

    Just 3 years ago Public Policy Polling found that 46% of Mississippi Republicans thought interracial marriage should be illegal, with another 14% being unsure.

  • John Pieret

    if we’re going to apply this “reasoning” consistently

    … we wouldn’t be religious wingnuts …

    So if a Muslim DMV clerk believed that women should not be allowed to drive, it would be “slavery” to force him to issue licenses to women, right?

    Why would a non-True American™ be in any position of trust in the government?

  • felicis

    I think we should expand Godwin to include comparing a given policy that does not include _treating people as property_ to slavery. I’ve heard it far to often from Libertarians that ‘taxation is slavery’, and now – evidently – being required to perform your job is also slavery.

    If they really want to get into jobs as coercion, then I am perfectly happy to accept their condemnation of our entire economic system – but it’s always, ‘except for the policies I like’. For example, it’s perfectly OK for a private company to coerce its employees to attend prayer meetings off the clock, or to prevent them from having easy access to birth control.

  • John Pieret

    In 2009, a Louisiana Justice of the Peace refused to sign a marriage license (i.e. perform a wedding) of an interracial couple.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Louisiana_interracial_marriage_incident

    Imagine Mel Gibson* in Brave Heart, being drawn and quartered yelling “FREEDOM”!

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    * All things considered, Mel might be an apt illustration for this wingnut meme.

  • Chiroptera

    You are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your conscience? That is tyranny.

    Which isn’t what is happening here. Here, someone is being told to do the job they’re being paid to do. A job into which they were not conscripted; I don’t know all that county clerks are required to do, but I suspect that the skills they have can be applied to other employment.

  • davek23

    You know what that is, ladies and gentlemen? You are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your conscience? That is tyranny.”

    “When you are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your own conscience in something that you do, that is slavery. If you are forced to violate your conscience to do work, that is tyranny,

    No, it’s not tyranny.

    It’s not slavery.

    It’s called “employment”, and if you don’t like it you can quit anytime.

  • comfychair

    The real tyranny is the complete absence of laws that force everyone to accept Jesus as their lord and savior. Right guys?

  • theguy

    Tyranny would be…

    censoring blasphemy and pro-gay speech

    putting gay people in prison

    forcing Muslims out of America

    genocide of Native Americans

    All things that Adolf Fischsticks has advocated. I wonder how that bastard can have “freedom of conscience” without a conscience?

  • Chiroptera

    Oops. This isn’t county clerks, but “probate judges.” I don’t know what it takes to be a probate judge in Alabama, but surely they can take their skills, whatever they are, to their next employment venue.

  • U Frood

    Yes, conservatives are very big on the theory that if you don’t like your job you can just quit and get a better job.

  • Trebuchet

    What? Did you says something, Ed? Sorry, it’s kind of noisy here in the echo chamber.

  • tfkreference

    One wonders if he realizes the judges are government agents themselves.

  • StevoR

    Someone needs to do a new version of this :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3sLhnDJJn0

    With the word used most there replaced by the word “slavery”: and the characters from Princess Bride replaced by these Klowns.

    They keep using that word ..

  • anubisprime

    This is the third time in less than a week that I’ve heard a Christian right bigot make the argument that making government officials apply the law equally to their constituents is “slavery.”

    Well these folks all tend to swim in the same sewer…seems inevitable they purloin each others insanities…it is what their ‘faith’ is based on.

    And after all they are not very good at formulating more cogent and less incoherent arguments.

    They seem to share a hive mind…bit like cockroaches, only not as well adapted!