Christians Don’t Matter More Than Others

Over the weekend, ISIS beheaded 21 Coptic Christians in Egypt and released a gruesome video showing them doing it. It’s just the latest in a horrifying series of barbaric murders carried out by the apocalyptic Muslim death cult. Pope Francis spoke out about the murders:

Today I read about the execution of those twenty-one or twenty-two Coptic Christians. Their only words were: “Jesus, help me!”. They were killed simply for the fact that they were Christians. You, my brother, in your words referred to what is happening in the land of Jesus. The blood of our Christian brothers and sisters is a testimony which cries out to be heard. It makes no difference whether they be Catholics, Orthodox, Copts or Protestants. They are Christians! Their blood is one and the same. Their blood confesses Christ. As we recall these brothers and sisters who died only because they confessed Christ, I ask that we encourage each another to go forward with this ecumenism which is giving us strength, the ecumenism of blood. The martyrs belong to all Christians.

The pope is a Christian, of course, and the leader of a huge percentage of all the world’s Christians. But why such a focus on the fact that the victims were Christian? Would it be any less tragic if they’d been atheists? Or other Muslims, as most of the victims of ISIS have been? These murders are horrifying not because the victims are Christians but because they are human beings, just as the use of blasphemy laws to oppress and kill people in so many Muslims is equally wrong whether the victims are Christian, atheist or the wrong brand of Muslim.

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  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    Just like a lot of folks, he’s fine with barbarism as long as it’s brown people killing brown people. Oh, he might wring his hands at an appropriate moment, but really, he doesn’t give a shit.

  • http://www.gregory-gadow.net Gregory in Seattle

    @ArtK #1 – Frank is genuinely disturbed when brown people are killing brown people, as long as Christians are being harmed. When the targets are Muslim — or Hindu or atheist or Buddhist or Sikh or some other form of non-Christianity — you are probably right. It’s about religion, not skin color: Frank is progressive that way.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    It makes no difference whether they be Catholics, Orthodox, Copts or Protestants.

    A very laudable sentiment, which the Pope then neuters and makes meaningless by not carrying it far enough. He would have sounded a lot more sincere, and a lot more effective, if he had reminded his fellow Christians that the latest ISIL victims were HUMAN, like everyone else ISIL brutally murdered. But instead, he took that perfectly right and necessary message, and poisoned it by making it all about Christians. This guy is just as clueless and tin-eared as that other fascist patsy he replaced.

    But why such a focus on the fact that the victims were Christian? Would it be any less tragic if they’d been atheists?

    In his eyes, yes — atheists insult people’s religious feelings, therefore they should expect a punch in the mouth…and sometimes the punch is hard enough to separate the mouth from the rest of the body, ifyouknhowwhatimean. He made that point clear right after the Paris massacre.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @ Gregory

    You’re right — I didn’t express myself well.

    He’s tribal just like everyone else. He’s a leader of a tribe. If other tribes want to kill each other, he’s got no real problem with it.

  • tubi

    I suspect the saddest thing for Pope F if the victims were atheists would be that they are all now going to Hell, not the murders in and of themselves. Atheists can’t be martyrs like Christians can.

    Makes you reconsider your opinion of someone who thinks both the killers and the victims will both suffer equally for all eternity.

  • jimmiraybob

    Obviously, ISIS/ISIL isn’t getting the response it wants from the secular west and is now appealing directly to the reflexive Medieval Christian mind. And, from the verbiage, they appear to be hitting gold. Can a People’s Crusade be long in coming?

    I wonder if Fox News and the TeaBirchpublican Party can parley this effectively. Calling Bill Donahue. Calling Bobby Jindal. Calling Pam Geller. To the kneejerk mobile!

  • my2cents

    This runs rampant in all circles the Pope is clearly no exception. Why is it our news cared so much about 12 people in France yet rarely mentions the thousands killed in Nigeria. Why did nobody mention anything about Nigeria until they started abducting girls even thug they had murdered thousands of little boys? Why does a classroom full of upper middle class white kids being killed resonate and get told countless times in our media but barely anything is heard about the death of dozens if not hundreds of black kids in south Chicago? Honestly if it wasn’t so easy to villainize an atheist murderer would news outlets really care if 3 muslims died? They don’t seem to care when thousands die by our nations hands or our allies (Israel specifically), why would they care about 3 here unless they can easily hate the and distance themselves from the perpetrator?

    We’re all guilty of this, whether it’s me, you, atheist, christian, muslim, hindi, buddhist, white, black, brown, it really doesn’t matter. If we see some of ourselves in the victims it resonates strongly with us and when we see little of ourselves in the victims it’s merely an afterthought or something mentioned on the ticker.

    The best we can do is try to not do this and see that all human lives matter not just humans like us. It’s not an easy task and even though many try to be mindful of this we fail constantly.

  • abb3w

    Horrifying to you, since your self-identification with human beings is sufficiently strong to induce such horror. For those who require narrower in-group membership for such self-identification, yes, it’s subjectively less tragic and horrifying.

    Which is separately horrifying.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    Their only words were: “Jesus, help me!”.

    Odd that he did not note the lack of help from said deity.

  • busterggi

    theschwa @ 9. – God is resting up for March Madness.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Can a People’s Crusade be long in coming?

    Pope Smirky’s rhetoric did sound like a call for another Crusade.

  • U Frood

    Nonsense, the Crusades were hundreds of years ago. Christians don’t do that sort of thing any more, and it’s offensive to suggest they ever do anything violent.

  • Synfandel

    Their blood confesses Christ.

    Does that actually mean anything or is it just output of the Papal word salad generator?

  • eric

    I’m reminded of something Heddle said (last week?) in the discussion of Paul’s letter to Philemon: “It [Philemon] is the letter of someone who places slavery as secondary compared to the so-called Great Commission.”

    The Pope’s speech is the speech of someone who places [the victims’] humanity as secondary compared to the so-called Great Commission.

  • anubisprime

    Xtians are as enamored by blood, and the image of it, just as much as any ISIS/ISIL dedicated fan.

    It is just committed Xtians hide the blood lust under word salad rhetoric designed to lull the sheeple, and circumnavigate scrutiny by a potentially godless media.

    They dearly loves their martyrdom fascination , the bloodier the better, and itch to be able to ‘go as to war’ for jeebus.

    Frankie is not the great reformer as advertized…obviously that utter disaster that was benny required a touch of ‘gud ole’ RCC misdirection and a muddying up of the pool…he is just a pope and declaring a Deus le vult! Deus le vult! has got to be a popes greatest spiritual orgasm…

    It is beyond quizzical that not one theocrat has speculated on why their mythical hero abandoned those folk to such typical biblical rage…one can only assume they are a tad embarrassed by the singular lack of any supernatural intervention, one might wait a short while for the classic excuse to surface somewhere…’They were the wrong sort of Christian’ …

    Frank must have been biting his tongue to express that sentiment, but its shadow still lurked under the surface of his spiel, they cannot help themselves!

  • heddle

    anubisprime

    Xtians are as enamored by blood, and the image of it, just as much as any ISIS/ISIL dedicated fan.

    It is just committed Xtians hide the blood lust under word salad rhetoric designed to lull the sheeple, and circumnavigate scrutiny by a potentially godless media.

    Man, you really have Christians figured out. Your assessment is completely consistent with memos I received and meetings I attended. You must be like a genius or something. Did you study under Raven?

  • heddle

    anubisprime.

    Just curious, I know you think (a) below is true, I am wondering if you agree with (b) and/or (c)?

    a) Xtians are as enamored by blood, and the image of it, just as much as any ISIS/ISIL dedicated fan

    b) Muslims are as enamored by blood, and the image of it, just as much as any ISIS/ISIL dedicated fan

    c) Jews are as enamored by blood, and the image of it, just as much as any ISIS/ISIL dedicated fan

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    I hate to say this, anubis, but heddle has a point here: your comment was, at best, nothing but recycled bulldada, and even less coherent than Vatican bulldada.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    And speaking of Vatican bulldada, am I the only one here who thinks “Their blood confesses Christ” sounds like the verbal equivalent of waving a bloody shirt?

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