Barber and Staver Continue to Rant Against Equality

I find it highly amusing to listen to Mat Staver, the dumbest lawyer in America not named Larry Klayman, and Matt Barber rant and rave about all the terrible things that will happen as a result of letting gay people get married. This will destroy marriage! Destroy Christianity! Destroy civilization! Destroy the galaxy!

Barber declared that the push for gay marriage was never about equality but rather “about forcing Christians against their will to celebrate deviant homosexual behavior.”

“This was about persecuting Christians,” he said, “not about marriage equality.”

Staver readily agreed, saying that gay marriage is “an oxymoron” because “same-sex relationships are harmful, they’re sinful, they’re contrary to the Scriptures, they’re contrary to the natural created order,” and warning that gay activists are intent on persecuting Christians all over America, which promoted Barber to issue a dire warning.

“If, God forbid … the Supreme Court somehow defines and manufactures a constitutional so-called right to sodomy-based marriage this summer, in June, if they do that then the floodgates will be open,” Barber said. “There will be Christian persecution widespread across the United States and the so-called gay marriage agenda will be the sledgehammer used to crush the church and to crush religious liberty and the crush individual Christians, their finances, to ruin them. That’s what this agenda was always about and that’s what we will see if the Supreme Court goes the wrong way in June.”

I love this argument that forcing businesses to offer their services to gay people is forcing them to “celebrate” homosexuality. How about a tux shop? Or a shoe store? Is selling shoes to gay people “celebrating” the “homosexual lifestyle”? Should grocery stores be allowed to refuse to sell food to gay people because they might host a dinner party and that would be forcing the grocery store owners to “celebrate” The Gay? It’s all quite silly.

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  • James Robinson

    Their “reasoning” may be silly (or, more accurately, asinine, if not disingenuous), but the potential political consequences should not be discounted.

  • Chiroptera

    Should grocery stores be allowed to refuse to sell food to gay people because they might host a dinner party and that would be forcing the grocery store owners to “celebrate” The Gay?

    Maybe not. There is a legal argument to be made that properly placing items in a grocery bag is an artistic act and so forcing grocery stores to sell food to gay people will violate grocers’ Freedom of Expression. Or they’re a closely held corporation. Or something.

  • John Pieret

    gay marriage was never about equality but rather “about forcing Christians against their will to celebrate deviant homosexual behavior

    Bwahahahahahahah! They finally figured it out!

    Right after the Supreme Court rules that gays can get married, we’ll pass a law requiring all Christians within 50 miles of a gay marriage to attend the ceremony and then stay for the public consummation of the nuptials! Because that’s the important part!

  • StevoR

    @ ^ John Pieret : Doesn’t that usually happen beforehand these days?

    As for destroying galaxies, ah, give it time – like a few trillion trillion years when all the gas and dust in our galaxy gets used up and even the longest lived of red dwarf stars yet to be born have died of old age or been consumed by black holes .. course that’s not due to teh Ghey – or is it? 😉

  • llewelly

    It’s true! Obama has just issued an executive action requiring all Christians to cheer and wear rainbow stickers whenever a gay marraige happens.

  • davek23

    “If, God forbid … the Supreme Court somehow defines and manufactures a constitutional so-called right to sodomy-based marriage this summer, in June, if they do that then the floodgates will be open,” Barber said.

    So he’s perfectly fine with lesbian marriage then?

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    So the proper term for non-gay, god-approved marriage must be “coitus-based marriage”?

  • Sastra

    “same-sex relationships are harmful, they’re sinful, they’re contrary to the Scriptures, they’re contrary to the natural created order,”

    Couldn’t he also say that worshiping a false God is harmful, sinful, contrary to Scriptures, and contrary to the natural created order? What about worshiping the right God but distorting what He says? What about rejecting God all together?

    The first Commandment wasn’t about natural marriage, it dealt with our inviolable obligation to recognize, honor and obey the One and Only True God. Staver needs to go bigger and deeper and get to the crux of the issue. Let’s start a holy war against ALL infidels! No cake for you and you and you!

  • hunter

    I’ve probably noted this before, but the shrillness of the rhetoric is a good indicator of the degree of desperation. And boy! are these clowns desperate.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … sodomy-based marriage …

    Hyperchristians use that first word quoted above quite a lot. I have to wonder what they reply when asked, “Mommy/Daddy, what’s ‘sodomy’?”

  • marcus

    Barber declared that the push for gay marriage was never about equality but rather “about forcing Christians against their will to celebrate deviant homosexual behavior.”

    “This was about persecuting Christians,” he said, “not about marriage equality.”

    Ego-maniacal much?

  • Kermit Sansoo

    Hmmm. So my atheist girlfriend and I shouldn’t get married? We’ve been procrastinating, but if it will help make a mockery of God-worshipping marriages, we might be motivated to get up off our duffs. Still not sure of the mechanics behind that, though.

    .

    And speaking of behinds, I’m sure that some straight marriages are sodomy-based. Are they also destroying marriages?

  • Crimson Clupeidae

    Everyone knows the big laser in the Death Star was powered by gay marriage…..

  • naturalcynic

    Destroy the galaxy!

    Once again, Ed exaggerates. See today’s Evolving Perspectives . Only a supernova.

  • dugglebogey

    If only there was a historical example of people running businesses who refused to serve a certain segment of society based on their beliefs. We would be so lucky if lunch counters at one time refused service to certain people. Then we could use that experience to predict the real consequences of the effects of forcing businesses to serve those people despite their desire to discriminate.

    Oh well, I guess there’s no way to know.