Oregon Councilwoman Gets Beheading Threat Over ‘In God We Trust’

The Klamath County Commission in Oregon recently took up a proposal to put “In God We Trust” on the walls of the chamber they meet in and the only commissioner to oppose the matter is receiving all manner of hate mail and threats, including one hoping she would be beheaded.

Klamath Falls city councilwoman Trish Seiler found that argument “disingenuous,” asking “What the heck is a generic God? There’s nothing generic about it.”

She later voiced this opinion in an editorial in the Herald and News, in which she stated that “that’s what the Constitution and the Bill of Rights call for. Separation of church and state.”

But according to the author of a letter Seiler received after penning the editorial, the United States was founded on “Christian morality.” The author then wrote, “Maybe we could have the privilege of seeing your wonderful Muslims behead your [expletive] ugly [expletive]!!!”

At yesterday’s Klamath Falls city council meeting, Seiler read from a statement she had prepared, stating that “evil walked into my home a couple weeks ago. It came in the form of an ugly, crudely written, profane piece of hate mail.”

“All of us on council have received anonymous phone calls from people angry with a particular statement or position. It’s part of the job. Not this time. This time the terrorist who wrote the cowardly, anonymous, bullying letter I received has called for my death. And not just any death, but death by beheading.”

The irony here is that those who supported the proposal on the commission argued that the god mentioned in the statement was a “generic god” and therefore shouldn’t offend Jews or Muslims or any other religious adherent. But as this letter shows, the Christian rubes know otherwise. They know that it’s about pissing on their territory, which is why this Christian thug thinks that Seiler is on the side of the Muslims in opposing it.

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  • blf

    So that should be “In halberd we trust”?

  • raven

    Sigh.

    If it is a generic god, shouldn’t the slogan be, In Ground Of All Being God(s) We Trust.

    Or, In Deity(s) Of Your Choice We Trust.

  • John Pieret

    Commissioner Mallams said he did not anticipate posting the motto to be a problem, since “it doesn’t say ‘the God of the Bible.’ It’s not ‘Allah.’ It’s not ‘the God of the Jews.’ It’s just acknowledging that there is a higher power out there that sets boundaries for what’s right and wrong.”

    As for atheists, Mallams and Warren said, “they don’t have to look at it.”

    Then the obvious question is why do people who think there is a higher power out there need to see it plastered on public building walls? They don’t have to look at the walls that don’t proclaim a higher power.

  • raven

    Doesn’t Klamath county have some real problems to deal with?

    Klamath Falls, OR Crime Rates & Statistics – AreaVibes

    www. areavibes. com/klamath+falls-or/crime/

    The Klamath Falls violent crime rate is 42% higher than the Oregon average and the Oregon …

    Hmmm, well yes they do.

    1. I looked up the violent crime rate because it seemed like every few weeks there was a murder in what is a rural, low population area.

    It turns out that the violent crime rate is twice the Oregon average.

    2. So how is god and that mythological “xian morality” working out in Klamath County? With double the state average violent crime rate, not well. Maybe they should put their trust in something else like education or economic development.

    3. They also have frequent droughts lately which leads to perennial water wars between the farmers, the environment, and the local Indians.

  • John Pieret

    BTW:

    “it doesn’t say ‘the God of the Bible.’ It’s not ‘Allah.’ It’s not ‘the God of the Jews.’ It’s just acknowledging that there is a higher power

    Have any of these people read the 1st Commandment?

  • raven

    The Sarah Palin/Mike Huckabee myth that small town America is some sort of Edenic paradise of god fearing, hard working (white) people is just that. A myth.

    These days a lot of rural areas* are full of crime, low education levels, poverty, hopelessness, drug and alcohol abuse, domestic abuse, and sick and old people with a falling average life span.

    The USA is one of the most urbanized areas on the planet with 84% metros. There is a reason why the migration has been steadily rural to metro for generations.

    * This isn’t true of all rural areas. I know many are actually quite nice still. Jackson Hole Wyoming, treasure valley Montana, and many midwest towns are perfectly safe and quiet places to live. I’m not sure what makes one rural area liveable and another a murder capital, maybe poverty levels.

    Just looking at the statistics, Klamath county doesn’t look so great.

  • cynix

    In the spirit of the goose and the gander:

    Shouldn’t there be a demand that all Christians and Minsters (at least locally) publicily condemn this? If not, that means they agree and proves chrisitianaty is a murderous religion.

    Oh. Wait!. Wrong religion. Sorry.

    I do agree with Councilwoman Sellers. What the hell is a “generic god”?

    I do like

  • http://www.decrepitoldfool.com georgewiman

    Go ahead and put up the sign, and frame the threatening letter next to it.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    [The near future]

    Oregon’s Klamath County Commission puts “In God we trust” on the walls of their legislative chambers.

     

    A Muslim enters chamber, sees sign.

     

    “Neat! Me too!”, he exlcaims.

  • Sastra

    As for atheists, Mallams and Warren said, “they don’t have to look at it.”

    Yes, this is what happens when belief in a Higher Power commands the status of “acknowledgment” rather than “argument.” These government officials would never inscribe something which excludes themselves on the theory that it’s just common knowledge or historical tradition.

    They don’t want atheists to not look at the sign. They want to not look at the atheists.

  • dugglebogey

    You will know they are christian by their love…..their violent, violent love.

  • dugglebogey

    It would be completely legal to put on the walls “In the Koch Brothers we trust.”

  • Michael Heath

    cynix writes:

    What the hell is a “generic god”?

    It’s leveraging the structurally defective argument that it’s OK to impose religion on others as long as it’s “ceremonial deism”. That argument is actually the prevailing law, e.g., Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow includes this phrase in Justice O’Connor’s concurring opinion.

    It’s a structurally defective argument because Christianists are demonstrably committed to using government power to promote Christianity and protect their privileges at the expense of non-Christianists – including other Christians. They are in no way claiming government speech promoting Christianity has, “lost through rote repetition any significant religious content.” [I’m quoting Justice Brennan’s dissent in Lynch v. Donnelly.]

    So Christianists hypocritically claim it’s not about Christianity or Christian privilege while always acting out that those are their sole motivations.

  • Chiroptera

    “Maybe we could have the privilege of seeing your wonderful Muslims behead your [expletive] ugly [expletive]!!!”

    But remember, kids, it’s atheists who are angry!

  • http://www.aquaticape.org anthrosciguy

    It turns out that the violent crime rate is twice the Oregon average.

    Well maybe if people would stop trying to enforce the Constitution we wouldn’t have to keep killing them!

  • http://www.gregory-gadow.net Gregory in Seattle

    Ah, ceremonial deism. The exact same thing that prompted many early Christians to martyr themselves, rather than offer a pinch of incense to the divine spirit of the Emperor.

  • thebookofdave

    As for atheists, Mallams and Warren said, “they don’t have to look at it.”

    …unless city council meetings are open to public attendance, or an atheist gets elected to the board. In which case, CEREMONIAL DEISM, BITCHEZ!!1! IN YOUR FACE!

  • raven

    As for atheists, Mallams and Warren said, “they don’t have to look at it.”

    They are flat out lying here and they know it.

    1. If they attend a meeting, how can they not look at it?

    2. So why is this phrase going on the wall then. Really, the whole idea is that people will see it. Whether they like it or not. It’s just more tribalism and xians marking their territory.

    Klamath county has a lot of problems. They’ve just added another one, xian tribalism and panic as their religion fades from sheer malevolence.

    3. And what else is the point then xians pissing on a fire hydrant. It’s not like this motto is going to make any difference. It’s not magic. It’s on our currency and the net result has been what? Nothing obvious.

  • raven

    from Jon Pieret #3:

    It’s just acknowledging that there is a higher power out there that sets boundaries for what’s right and wrong.”

    1. Since when is it the job of the county commissioners to remind people that Invisible Sky Fairies exist and set rules? That is what churches and street corners are for.

    Don’t they have a county to run or something?

    2. The existence of gods isn’t a fact. It is at best a religious belief.

    I guess you don’t have to be too smart or honest to get elected in Klamath county, Oregon.

  • stubby

    I emailed councilwoman Seiler and she replied in just a few hours. She said she was surprised to get so much support from people outside of her area.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    A clear case of “Fatwa Envy” if ever I saw one.