Cal Thomas: The End is Near!

Conservative columnist Cal Thomas, one of the co-founders of the Moral Majority more than 35 years ago, predicts that the Supreme Court will strike down state bans on same-sex marriage, which he says is a sign that the end times are upon us. And he’s okay with that.

“I think it’s going to go 5-4 or even 6-3 in favor of same-sex marriage. All of these things are not the cause of our decadence, they’re a reflection of it,” he told me in an interview for SiriusXM Progress at the Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Maryland on Saturday…

“If you read the Scriptures, as I do, in both testaments all of these things are forecast in prophesies, in the book of Daniel and what Jesus and Paul said, so I’m not worried about it,” Thomas continued, describing his surprising reaction to the Supreme Court possibly ruling in favor of marriage equality. “I say everything is right on schedule. I’m trying to shore up my own family first and, hopefully, that will be an example to other people… If you look at not only what Jesus said, but Paul the Apostle, about what things would be like in the end times, people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth. They will elevate things that are called abomination in scripture to normality… All of the prophesies up to the final ones have come true. And that’s why I say that everything is right on schedule.”

It cracks me up that people think the Bible predicts everything that’s happening with such vague precision. “Wars and rumors of wars” and “people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth.” As if that could not have been said, indeed was said, about every other time in the last 2000 years. And especially since the early Christians were certain that they were living in the end times, backed up by the fact that Jesus told them that they would not taste death before he returned. These “prophecies” might as well have said “people will drink water and eat food.”

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  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Small world. I was a roadie for Lovers of Lies on their Abomination in Scripture tour. Or was that the other way around?

  • raven

    Inhofe of Oklahoma, who is very serious about his religion, says otherwise.

    According to Genesis, the earth and humans will last forever. So that is why global warming isn’t happening.

    If you read the Scriptures, as I do,…

    You can make up anything you want about what they say. They are just giant Rorschach Inkblots. And that is why xians never agree on anything.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “Wars and rumors of wars” and “people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth.” As if that could not have been said, indeed was said, about every other time in the last 2000 years.

    OK, but what about rumors of rumors of wars? Or Rumors of Fleetwood Mac? And what about those of us who do not love lies, but only just like like lies?

  • anubisprime

    What is becoming apparent, apart from the stagnation in pseudo- religious rhetorical proclamation. is that there are a few waking up in the anti camp and smelling the coffee.

    And if they are whining even predicting the anti-discrimination law being buttressed by Supreme court ruling then the game is indeed well and truly up and all bets are off as to where they go from here…they are like sheep caught in the headlights, all they can think of doing is baah! baah! about the ‘end times’

    They is sad bunnies…so very sad!…no one to discriminate against, oh wait what about thems pesky atheists…?

    So from the apparently inevitable, SCOTUS ruling due this Summer, the countdown to Atheism bashing in earnest, cos the bunnies will not now be distracted by other hatreds which are comprehensively off limits, will begin…again!

    There are strong similarities with the christian right to the Black Knight of Python fame…every time a court decision or result goes against their wishes they always seem to emerge with a brusque… “Just a flesh wound tis but a scratch”

    They traditionally refuse to admit defeat on any subject, so predicting a defeat on their nonsense before it happens is somewhat unusual to say the least.

    Perhaps their god has been whispering sweet ‘yous are fucked’ in their shell like…that must be a tad disconcerting for them!

  • D. C. Sessions

    At least he’s not playing the “at long last the promise reward is near, and you should do everything possible to prevent it” thing.

  • Artor

    As for the Rumors of Fleetwood Mac, what about sweet Little Lies? You gotta love those, right?

  • dugglebogey

    My favorite part is where Cal pauses to interject “as I do,” as if to say, unlike all you other fucking heathens….

  • marcus

    “I think it’s going to go 5-4 or even 6-3 …”

    I’m calling 6-3.

    End times? If we’re just talking humanity I’m thinking 2150 or so before we do something irrevocably stupid, or suffer from an accumulation of irrevocably stupid things done in the past (perhaps now even) and wipe ourselves out.

    The Earth itself? Probably another 3-5 billion years til Sol starts doing weird shit. Of course there is always the possibility of another asteroid strike similar to the Chicxulub event, maybe even bigger and meaner.

    The truth is, something will eventually get us, probably won’t be Jesus.

  • mithrandir

    Cal Thomas, quoting the Bible, said:

    “people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth.”

    Finally I understand the true purpose of Fox News. It’s the same as fundie Christian support of Israel: they want to hasten the End Times.

  • D. C. Sessions

    “I think it’s going to go 5-4 or even 6-3 …”

    I’m calling 6-3.

    Likewise — because Roberts isn’t the swing vote here, and he tends to join the majority on major cases so that he can assign himself the job of writing the opinion. Thatway he can either limit the damage or insert some time bombs for later use.

    That means that the only way it goes 5-4 is if Team Republican votes as a bloc. Vanishing chance of the four non-members voting against SSM, and near enough zero chance of Alito/Thomas/Scalia voting for. Which leaves a 5-4 against and a 6-3 for.

  • D. C. Sessions

    They is sad bunnies…so very sad!…no one to discriminate against, oh wait what about thems pesky atheists…?

    We can always hope. A full guns-blazing Crusade against the Atheist Scourge is not likely to end the way they imagine. I’m sure that they take great comfort in contemplating the numbers of nominal Christians in the USA, but if they thought that it was bad when damn near everyone turned out to have friends and family members who were gay …

  • moarscienceplz

    Cal Thomas is still alive?

  • Pierce R. Butler

    I first became aware of Cal Thomas as a columnist for the “Moral Majority” newsletter (hey, they useta offer free subs!).

    It stuck permanently in my mind when Thomas replied to some fans who praised the “wisdom” of something he’d written, modestly demurring that all the wisdom in MM came from the one ‘n’ only Jerry Falwell. Which, if you define “wisdom” as a ceaseless hunt for publicity and power, counts as the truest insight Cal Thomas has ever uttered.

  • marcus

    D. C. Sessions @ 10 Agreed, besides the reasons you mentioned, my intuition is that Roberts is also sensitive to his legacy and wants to be on the “right” side of history on this one. Scalia and Thomas have made their opinions known and have nothing to lose and it appears that Alito is a true believer (he does have a bit of libertarian streak however).

  • matty1

    ” You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. ” Matthew 2:4:6

    While the NT is pretty apocalyptic a case can be made that this bit is actually saying not every war is the beginning of the end. Especially as part of the context is Jesus warning his followers not to listen to rival ‘Messiahs’ and saying in essence “When I do the last judgement you won’t have to read the signs, it’ll be fucking obvious “

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    matty1, my motorcycle gang was the Rival Messiahs.

  • brucegee1962

    Well, to be fair, the end times are probably coming for Cal Thomas.

    I remember reading his column the first time I cracked open a newspaper in the early seventies, and he seemed like an old guy back then. A perfect representative of the anti-gay demographic, in other words.

  • marcus

    ED: “The End is Near!”

    This is a misquote. I believe that it is more correctly:

    “The End in Nye!”

    I can only assume that it must be Bill.

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com Gretchen

    I wrote a letter to the editor of my local paper once asking the editors to cancel Cal Thomas’s column on the editorial page. I said that he was unhinged and could not be relied upon for political commentary that anyone should take seriously. As evidence, I cited his blaming the 2012 shootings in Aurora, CO on abortion, and his claim that public schools are nothing more than cults to train children into the cult of Obama worship.

    They did not cancel Cal Thomas on the editorial page. I did, however, receive the dubious honor of Thomas tweeting at me to call me a bad liberal, for being so intolerant.

  • theguy

    “about what things would be like in the end times, people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth.”

    Indeed. Look at all the fundamentalist hypocrites, foaming at the mouth talking about Truth (TM) while they embezzle from their churches and cheat on their wives.

    “They will elevate things that are called abomination in scripture to normality”

    Like religious freedom and mixed fabrics? The simple fact is that homosexuality is normal, natural, and okay. The only “sin” is from the fundies who just won’t stop abusing people. Ever.

  • John Pieret

    people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth

    Which explains why David Barton is so popular in wingnut Christian circles.

  • grumpyoldfart

    I’m trying to shore up my own family first

    Behind his back the family are saying, “Oh for Christ’s sake give it a rest…”

  • caseloweraz

    Moarscienceplz: Cal Thomas is still alive?

    Yes, we haven’t heard from him in quite a while. This reminded me of Hal Lindsey, (co-)author of 1970’s The Late, Great Planet Earth. He too is still going strong.

  • peterh

    “The end is near” has been the cry of those weak in mind and strong in lung since the dawn of human memory.

  • Al Dente

    Cal Thomas is still alive?

    He’s 72.

  • 930i7

    When I hear someone make a statement like that I wonder if they either can’t do math or haven’t read the Bible. There’s a passage in there about Abraham’s descendants being as numberless as the stars or all the grains of sand. A little googling and some math would readily show that we aren’t anywhere close to the end times, for those who believe such a thing will come about. In fact we’re well less than one percent of the way there.

  • felidae

    “They will elevate things that are called abomination in scripture to normality”

    This Saturday, after mowing the grass, I plan to put on my polyester blend suit and have a celebratory lobster dinner with a shrimp cocktail appetizer –will that help bring on the end times right on schedule?

  • david

    “I’m trying to shore up my own family first”

    What does he use for that: sandbags, or a more permanent structural support?

  • marcus

    felidae @ 27 Possibly. If not, get a couple of good tattoos, that should do it.

  • D. C. Sessions

    There’s a passage in there about Abraham’s descendants being as numberless as the stars or all the grains of sand.

    That would have them outweighing the entire galaxy. May take a while.

  • vereverum

    @ anubisprime #4

    I think it’ll be Muslims. Further, I think it’s already started and it may be too late to stop. A lot of the screeds are tinged with hysteria (at least it seems so to me) and there is a growing (again, at least to me) self-defense component. The atheists are not perceived as a physical, let alone military, threat; more of a nuisance; while the Muslims are perceived as actively trying to cut off Christians’ heads.

  • marcus

    @ 31 “…while the Muslims are perceived as actively trying to cut off Christians’ heads.”

    Why would the Muslims want to cut off their heads? It’s not like there is anything useful in there.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    marcus says: @ 31 “…while the Muslims are perceived as actively trying to cut off Christians’ heads.”

    Why would the Muslims want to cut off their heads? It’s not like there is anything useful in there.

    .

    Muslims generally value tradition.

    .

    Think of Christians who would burn a witch or stone a heretic, given the chance. Sure, just shooting them would be simpler, but there’s a warm and fuzzy component to doing things the traditional way.

  • http://www.russellturpin.com/ rturpin

    Well, Ed, there were some prophecies that were quite specific. As example, that the current generation would not pass away before the end came.

    Of course, there’s the rub with being too specific.

  • anubisprime

    vereverum @ 31

    Well that is a fair point well made…Although Xtians are, by and large, not fans of forriners’ full stop…I nominate Atheists as the next target of righteous indignation taken to a new and higher level then previous because the movers and shakers have had it slowly dawn on them that apart from the ‘stridency’ and higher public profile of the new breed of atheists, they have the effrontery to actually question Xtians and loudly…result seems to be they are losing real numbers and bums on seats, hand over fist…that trend has apparently solidified into a definite decline for their delusion…and that is banging on their front door and not coming at them over Fox or other media outlets from a relatively safe distance.

    Sure they will rail and gnash toothypegs in mock alarm at some forriner’ xtian getting beheaded, but that is not the problem, they probably secretly approve of the method but not the target, seeing as they are ostensibly as deluded as they are as to their taste in deity, it is more an insult to their version of Xtian privilege that worries them, after all they should be doing the beheading not them rag heads…thanks Obama!

    Atheists are comin’ the atheists are comin’…that is much more pertinent to their daily worship, it seems to be a more urgent target all around is all, thing is they will feel they might stand a better chance of getting a way with discrimination against god haters then Muslims, especially in ‘merca!

  • vereverum

    anubisprime @ 35

    Very sound. Oddly, I didn’t think about “…apart from the ‘stridency’ and higher public profile of the new breed of atheists, they have the effrontery to actually question Xtians and loudly…”. I say oddly, ’cause every time I read a comment to the effect “I’ll bet if it had been a Muslim….” with regard to a limitation of Christian privilege incident, I always think we don’t hear about those things because by and large Muslims do not willfully and continuously violate the establishment clause. So, you’re right: the squeaky wheel. And there has been attempted legislation recently to include pro Christian language in a constitution and one, I think, that wanted to make belief in a supreme being, if not actually specifying God, a requirement to hold a government clerk job. I may’ve read it on this blog.

    OTOH, Muslims are much easier to spot. For one thing “they” don’t look like “us”. Atheists generally don’t have specifically identifiable meeting houses. So while atheists are more immediate, Muslims are more visible and easier to target physically. My state had a vote on a constitutional amendment banning Sharia law. Yeah, it passed. They’re afraid it will come here. Butterfly effect dontcha know. Also, I don’t think that atheists can command as much actual hatred as Muslims. Not believing in a god is one thing, but actually believing and promoting a different competing god is quite another.

    I think we’ll be able to gather quite a bit of evidence during the next election from the rhetoric. Also there may be a change in the temper after a new president is sworn in (if, of course, the illuminati allow that to happen) shifting away from Muslims to atheists. I think that’ll be the hinge; we’ll see which way it goes.

    It’s an interesting question. I’ll think some more upon it.

    I’ve copied your comment to my notebook.

    Videbimus.