Tantaros: Feminists Don’t Have Husbands Because They’re Sluts

It’s pretty obvious that Andrea Tantaros has watched Ann Coulter and Michelle Malking make huge amounts of money spewing stupid things on a daily basis and said to herself, “Hey, I can be as much of an idiot as they can!” She’s clearly trying to reach the wingnut big leagues by saying things like this:

Tantaros pointed out that “men specifically are opting out of marriage.”

“I mean this is a term that been dubbed by [conservative website] Breitbart as the sexodus,” she said.

Co-host Harris Faulkner agreed that there was less pressure on men “because we are a sexually free society.”

“Women have been encouraged to give it up freely with the rise of feminism, have sex like a man,” Tantaros opined. “So, they’re doing this and they’re not making the guy step up to put a ring on it.”

Co-host Kennedy Montgomery said that dating app Tinder was also to blame.

“There are a lot of dudes that don’t want to get married because if you’re not married, it’s not cheating,” Montgomery concluded.

This kind of stupid should really hurt.

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  • D. C. Sessions

    Quite a few of the feminists I know don’t have husbands because they’re married.

  • brucegee1962

    So the conservative viewpoint is that the ONLY reason a man would ever want to get married is for sex. Mutual support, the joys of having children, partnership and friendship —- pshaw. Women, forget about looking for someone to be a partner with in your journey through life — y’all need to be workin’ on usin’ that vajajay as bait to trap you a man!

  • raven

    Andrea Tantaros: Feminist moms don’t have husbands <b?because they 'give it up freely'

    Raw Story‎ – 2 days ago

    Fox News host Andrea Tantaros asserted on Wednesday that marriage was in decline …

    OhmiCthulhu. This is cosmically stupid.

    1. The 1950’s called. They want their meme back. IIRC, this is something that was said before I was born and long ago died out.

    dubbed by [conservative website] Breitbart

    That destroys her credibility right there. Breitbart is the bottom of the lunatic fringe sites. All the gibberish of Glenn Beck or Alex Jones without the wit and charm.

    2. I’m not even going to ask if her facts are correct. It’s Andrea Tantaros and Fox NoNews, it could only happen by accident.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Wait, I thought that feminism was about turning women into man-hating, “bull” lesbians and men into androgynous eunuchs! Did I miss a memo?

  • Synfandel

    D. C. Sessions:

    Quite a few of the feminists I know don’t have husbands because they’re married.

    Ehh?

    Don’t have husbands because the husbands are married to someone else?

    Don’t have husbands because they have wives instead?

    I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

  • raven

    I guess Fox NoNews has a new hate target. It’s actually a very old one considering the bible is loaded with misogyny.

    Women.

    Not too sure how smart that is though. Women make up the majority of the population and these days the large majority of college graduates. And vote. Women elected Bill Clinton twice.

  • Synfandel

    Anyone who thinks that men marry in order to have sex should ask some married men how much sex they have now compared with before they were married.

  • Jackie the social justice WIZZARD!!!

    If marriage is all about this slut shaming, anti-equality, “better catch a man cuz you’re worthless if you like sex more than servitude” crappola I’d be happy to see it disappear from the planet forever. People and their love for one another would be better without it.

  • Onamission5

    Spouse and I haven’t been married for nearly 15 years and counting. Ought I to be checking our closets for man-hating skeletons, and constantly pressing myself with worry over the possibility of him cheating? Nah. We’re fine. Should I be turning circles wondering about the instability of my children? Okay sure I will get right on that after we work out the schedule to take them to a million different lessons, help with homework, and go cheer at some children’s sportsball games.

    In other words, PSHAW.

  • Jackie the social justice WIZZARD!!!

    Synfandel ,

    Really? When you marry a woman she stops fucking you? Because she got what she REALLY wants, right? She tricked a man into commitment with her vagina and now he’s trapped with dry balls forever! She probably pretends to have headaches too. No wonder men cheat, amiright? HA HA HA…

    That trope belongs in the trash with the rest of the 50’s garbage.

  • llewelly

    Hm, my facebook feed is full of pictures of people forming long lines to get married … and yet conservatives seem quite upset by that phenomenon. Marriage might be important, but it’s not as important as hating people.

    I guess the conservative strategy for bucking the downward trend in marriages is to get married as many times as possible. You might call it the Newt Gingrich strategy.

    And why is a news organization that often aligns with the Catholic Church (except on global warming …) criticizing people who don’t marry?

    In other news it’s good to know that “slutty” feminists are the reason I’ve never gotten married. I quite enjoy being single, so thank you, feminists.

  • marcus

    Akira Makenzie @ 4 I thought feminists were already man-hating, “bull” lesbians. However, it makes sense that they would need to recruit.

    I can kind of see the arc. Once educated and given shoes the wimmenz start getting all uppity and asking for equal rights and stuff (basic human respect, recognition for accomplishments, equal opportunity and pay, it just goes on and on).

    I mean, what do they want? Amirite?

  • Synfandel

    Jackie, wow! Did I strike a nerve there or is your sense of humour out for cleaning?

  • raven

    http://www. livescience. com/38308-us-marriage-rate-new-low.html

    Just 26 percent of black women are married today, compared with 56 percent of Asian women, the ethnic group with the highest proportion of married women. And while the percentage of college-educated women who get married has changed little in the past 50 years,

    it has dropped most significantly among women without a high school diploma, the analysis revealed. Among women with a bachelor’s degree, 60 percent are married, compared with less than 30 percent among those who never graduated high school.

    The researchers say their report is based on data from the National Vital Statistics “100 Years of Marriage and Divorce Statistics United States 1867-1967,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/National Center for Health Statistics, and the U.S. Census Bureau.

    Cthulhu, Andrea Tantaros is dumb.

    She could have looked this up in a minute or two using Google.

    1. The US marriage rate has been falling for decades. For many reasons.

    2. The decline is mostly among poor and low education women. College educated women have twice the marriage rate at 60% as women without a high school degree, 30%.

    3. In other words, women who are likely liberated or “feministic” are far more likely to be married than traditionals.

    4. The decline in marriage rates is complicated and doesn’t lend itself to a comment box on a blog. But many unmarried women often with children are living with their spousal equivalent without benefit of clergy or filing papers. De facto married, but not de jure.

  • Sastra

    Look, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? It’s just good good-down-home-on-the-farm common sense. Feminists only think this is ‘demeaning’ because they’re not practical.

  • eric

    “Women have been encouraged to give it up freely with the rise of feminism, have sex like a man,” Tantaros opined.

    Factual (in)accuracy aside, wow, they can’t make the misogynist double standard any more explicit than that. Oh my god, women may be acting like men!!!111!!

    @7 and @10: I would guess there probably *is* an overall negative correlation between sex and marriage, but that’s because “being married” is a somewhat sloppy proxy for “no longer being a teenage horndog” and “having kids.” IOW, its a correlation without causation.

  • Big Boppa

    Andrea Tantaros is 36 years old and single. She obviously has put her career ahead of any desire to marry young and procreate.

    So what’s her point again?

  • Big Boppa

    Oh…and unless she’s willing to prove that she’s a virgin she should shut the fuck up.

  • raven

    It could take pages to show how simple minded and completely wrong Andrea Tantaros is. Simple and wrong answers to complicated questions. And she didn’t even blame gays, Moslems, or atheists.

    One more for the road

    U.S birth rate falls to record low – Sep. 6, 2013 – CNN Money

    money. cnn. com/2013/09/06/news/economy/birth-rate-low/

    Sep 6, 2013 – The U.S. fertility rate fell to another record low in 2012, with 63.0 births per … The Great Recession and the slow recovery have been quite the …

    The US birth rate fell during the Great Recession of George Bush.

    For the breeder cults, Catholic church, Mormons, and some fundies, this was clearly a disaster. No new souls cycling through earth. No souls to brainwash to keep their dwindling numbers up and pay their tithes for new private jets and mansions.

    1. It has nothing to do with feminists, atheists, gays, Moslems or Obama.

    2. It’s all George Bush and the GOP/Tea Party’s fault!!!

    When the economy goes down, responsible adults look at their resources and future and adjust their family planning accordingly.

    If Andrea Tantaros wanted to make an intelligent point, she would be ranting and raving about the weak economy, the GOP, the Tea Party, and…George Bush!!!

  • John Pieret

    Big Boppa:

    Andrea Tantaros is 36 years old and single. She obviously has put her career ahead of any desire to marry young and procreate.

    As usual with these sanctimonious types, their demands for “virtue” applies only to others.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    She’s age 36 and, evidently, unmarried. I’m left to wonder if she wishes to be married and blames feminism for her unmarried status. Or is she upset about the dearth of men willing to get into a serious relationship with a woman who won’t have sex? Or is she just a straight-up fraud, conducting her personal life much like other educated, prosperous women and men, while playing the elderly Fox viewers for idiots? With the magic of dissociative defenses, it might all be true.

  • eric

    As usual with these sanctimonious types, their demands for “virtue” applies only to others.

    “CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. One who follows the teachings of Christ in so far as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin.” Ambrose Bierce, 1906 (approximately).

  • D. C. Sessions

    I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

    I’m thinking of feminists like my son-in-law. Does that help?

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    encouraged to give it up freely

    What, is he afraid it’s going to drive prices down?

    What a fucking misogynistic ass-blemish.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Eric@22

    Quoting Ambrose Bierce in a thread about misogyny is pretty edgy. :) Somewhere, he’s spinning in his grave.

  • vereverum

    To be fair, she has some pretty formidable competition on the show:

    according to the Rawstory link in the post:

    Medical contributor Dr. Manny Alvarez explained to the hosts of Outnumbered that one reason more couples were having children out of wedlock was because immigrants did not respect the institution of marriage.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Jackie, wow! Did I strike a nerve there or is your sense of humour out for cleaning?

    No, you just repeated a very old and stale joke. Don’t complain about other people’s “sense of humor” until you can put some sense in your own humor. (Oh, and not all marriages turn sexless after the wedding night.)

  • karmacat

    What is especially remarkable is that Tantaros assume these “feminists” want to get married. It never crosses her mind that maybe they don’t want to get married. Of course, her facts about who is getting married or not married is all wrong

  • Synfandel

    …because “being married” is a somewhat sloppy proxy for “no longer being a teenage horndog” and “having kids.”

    Thank you, eric. That was the gist of the (admittedly not gut-busting) joke.

    Raging Bee, forgive me. I promise I will make no further attempt at casual irony unless it’s guaranteed lethally hilarious at four hundred metres.

  • discountdeity

    No need to get passive-aggressive just because someone called you out on your lazy, hacky, unfunny joke, Synfandel. Just take the criticism like a goddamn grown-up.

  • ZugTheMegasaurus

    “’There are a lot of dudes that don’t want to get married because if you’re not married, it’s not cheating,’ Montgomery concluded.”

    I cannot for the life of me understand this concept, no matter how many times I hear it. Presumably, anyone who says it has never been in a committed monogamous relationship. Find anyone who is in a serious dating relationship or who’s engaged to be married and try claiming that it’s impossible for their SO to cheat since they’re not married. They’ll set you straight.

  • felidae

    “This kind of stupid should really hurt.”–not only it doesn’t hurt, it pays really well if you can get paid to spout it on FOX news. Oh, by the way you have to look good in a short skirt and show off your legs instead of your intellect to attract the geezers who are the primary viewers of FOX

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    Akira, I’m confused by this too. I could have sworn that the conservative line on feminists is that they are all lesbians who hate men and they are so fat and ugly that men don’t want to have sex with them anyway. Au contraire. We now read that they are promiscuous and heterosexual. I had no idea.

  • Synfandel

    discount deity wrote:

    No need to get passive-aggressive just because someone called you out on your lazy, hacky, unfunny joke, Synfandel. Just take the criticism like a goddamn grown-up.

    I was not ‘called’ for making a lame joke. That I certainly would let pass. I was excoriated for saying a litany of vile things that I did not say.

    Do you suppose ‘Jackie the social justice WIZZARD’ launches into an abusive tirade when she sees “Moon over my hammy” on a menu at Denny’s? I doubt it. She read WAY more into my casual jest than was warranted and reacted nastily. I don’t know from what personal well of pain that outburst came, but it was not calling me for a lame joke.

    This doesn’t happen nearly as often here as at Pharyngula, but apparently now and then the commentariat feels the need to eat one of its own.

  • Onamission5

    Synfandel:

    Except, your “lame” (way to ableist!) joke is based on a long standing sexist assumption that the only reason women have sex with men is to trap them into marriage, and then once we get what we want, the sex goes away. It also insults men by assuming that the only reason they marry women is for sex. Not for respect, companionship, understanding, or god forbid a meeting of minds.

    Your joke wasn’t a joke, it was a perpetuation of sexist tropes hiding under cover of “but it’s just a joke!” and that is what you’re being called out for.

  • Synfandel

    Yeah, I neither believe nor even thought any of those things when I made the remark. You’re projecting. Please see eric @16 for the truth. Frequency of sex does tend to taper off as a marriage gets older. Your notions about why that is and why people marry in the first place are your own, not mine.

  • Onamission5

    You may not have personally been assuming any such thing, but that is the trope that joke is based upon, and by repeating the joke you are perpetuating sexist ideas. Do you want to perpetuate sexist ideas?

  • avocationalphysiks

    Isn’t she saying “feminists” aren’t charging enough? For the love of Jesus, isn’t there some sort of anti-trust or anti-‘dumping’ law to protect livelihoods of good Christian women?