Gohmert Wants to Bomb Iran, Thinks Public Supports It

Rep. Louis Gohmert, who really has to be the dumbest man in Congress, thinks the United States should bomb Iran right now and thus launch another war in the Middle East with all the attendant human, financial and geopolitical costs. And he wrongly thinks the American public agrees with him.

During an appearance on yesterday’s edition of “Washington Watch,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, told host Tony Perkins that “we need to encourage this administration to go take out Iran’s nuclear capability” instead of pursuing negotiations: “I think it’s time to bomb Iran.”

“We need to make clear to Iran: You can play these silly games with our president that buys into them and our secretary of state, but the American people aren’t buying it and you’re going to pay a price,” Gohmert said.

“I’m hoping and praying the president will realize, despite the agenda he has that has put Christians in jeopardy around the world, that he will not want to leave the Democratic Party so devastated that they won’t recover for many decades,” Gohmert continued, “that maybe he’ll start being more helpful to Israel instead of slapping them around as an unwelcomed visitor and start treating them like a friend. And maybe once he starts doing that he’ll realize we do need to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities that we know of and anything that they move to fix, we bomb that as well.”

Except the American people are absolutely opposed to him on this. In a poll just a few days ago, a huge majority supported the diplomatic negotiations:

Direct diplomatic negotiations with Iran are broadly popular, 68% favor them, while 29% oppose them. That support cuts across party lines, with 77% of Democrats, 65% of Republicans and 64% of independents in favor of diplomacy between the U.S. and Iran in an attempt to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

As usual, when politicians say “the American people” they really mean “the people on my side.”

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  • dingojack

    “As usual, when [right-wing nut-bags such as Gohmert Pyle-o-shit] … say “the American people” they really mean “the people on my side voices in my head and my most ardent yes-men.”

    FIFY.

    Dingo

  • Mr Ed

    As if we hadn’t destabilized the area enough. Also, does everything have to be a holy war with these fanatics.

  • John Pieret

    Brown people can’t hurt us! … Nuke ’em!

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Cuz bombing Iran will work as well as bombing, uh… Germany, North Korea, North Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Iraq did.

    Bombing’s amazing record of success shows it only seems to really help against mostly-defeated (Germany) enemies, or enemies that were trying to surrender (Japan)

  • D. C. Sessions

    Also, does everything have to be a holy war with these fanatics.

    Yes.

  • raven

    “I’m hoping and praying the president will realize, despite the agenda he has that has put Christians in jeopardy around the world…

    1. One of the victims of the constant turmoil in the middle east are…middle east xians.

    To take one example, half the xians in iraq, the oldest xian communities in the world, are dead or refugees. This was collateral damage to the Iraq war of Bush and Cheney.

    Bush and Cheney are…Republicans. And Gohmert is indeed dumb.

    2. Bush made us less safer, not more. Iraq destabilized the region and made recruiting terrorists much easier. We are still dealing with his results with the rise of ISIS.

    3. Ironically, one of our allies in the fight against ISIS is…Iran. ISIS is Sunni and Iran and almost half of Iraq is Shiite.

    4. The vast majority of victims of Islamic terrorists, at least 90%, are other Moslems. Not xians. They may not like us but they really hate each other and are a lot easier to get at.

  • raven

    The GOP wants war!!! Or at least the bottom of the barrel Tea Party/fundie xian part.

    They aren’t making any secret of it here. Not with that 47 US Senator letter to Iran.

    1. The bombing probably won’t do much. It’s a big country, 6.8 times the size of the UK and mountainous. I’m assuming their nuclear facilities are dispersed, dug in deep, not exactly on any road maps, and there aren’t any signs in English.

    2. An real invasion war is going to be expensive and difficult. Big rugged country, 80 million people, many of them Shiite fanatics. We don’t have any staging area. Iran is surrounded by mostly other Moslem countries that aren’t going to be all that interested in helping us waste a few trillions of dollars and a million or so lives.

    And even if we win, not guaranteed at all, so what? Like Iraq we could win the battles and still end up with less than nothing. A long drawn out Vietnam/Iraq style guerrila war that we just get tired of.

    3. I’m not seeing that we are going to have too many allies either. Our allies seem to be getting tired of us starting pointless wars that go nowhere and getting them involved.

    4. If the US voting public buys this there is no hope. George Sanayana: Those who don’t learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.

    It’s just watching lemmings run over a cliff. Again.

  • Trebuchet

    @1, Dingo:

    …Gohmert Pyle-o-shit…

    Gomer Pyle was played by Jim Nabors, a married gay man. Please don’t do that.

  • labman57

    The official ‘House Howler Monkey’ and other congressional Republicans and conservative pundits are fond of criticizing the Obama Administration’s foreign policy for being “too diplomatic”, as well as for not touting America’s “exceptionalism” and reminding all other nations of their inherent inferiority on a daily basis.

    Perhaps these pompous, self-righteous politicos don’t really know what diplomacy means:

    1 : the art and practice of conducting negotiations between nations

    2 : skill in handling affairs without arousing hostility : tact

    Threatening to bomb or invade a sovereign foreign power is NOT diplomacy, despite what these right wing war-mongers believe.

  • caseloweraz

    During an appearance on yesterday’s edition of “Washington Watch,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, told host Tony Perkins that “we need to encourage this administration to go take out Iran’s nuclear capability” instead of pursuing negotiations: “I think it’s time to bomb Iran.”

    We haven’t heard much about Hezbollah lately — meaning that Hezbollah hasn’t been active lately. I wonder if the “esteemed” Senator Gohmert knows this. I’m certain he doesn’t know how it would change if we did bomb Iran.

  • D. C. Sessions

    To all those who cite Santayana regarding the outcomes of foreign quagmire wars, perhaps we are drawing the wrong lessons. Korea, more than any other single thing, got Eisenhower elected. Vietnam got Nixon elected and led to the rise of the modern right wing as a counter to the peace movement.

    You may not agree with this analysis, but I assure you that a lot of Republicans see it that way. So another foreign war — especially on that could be blamed on Democrats — would have the potential to make the Republicans as popular with the current draft-age set as Vietnam did for the Boomers.

    Pure goodness.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    BTW historians (like my dad) are about as thrilled with the Santayana quote as biologists are with various Darwin cherry-picks.

  • felidae

    The default GOP position: Bomb the shit out of them. Fun fact: a recent report estimates the cost to keep one combat soldier in the field for one year is 2.1 million dollars–so each boot on the ground costs a million + So Louie, let’s spend another 2 trillion dollars and go to war with the Iranians and we’ll pay for it with cuts to poor folks, old folks, infrastructure and education

  • lorn

    The US military is indeed powerful but there are limitations. Short of using nuclear weapons we don’t have any really good way of reliably destroying facilities deep underground or under mountains if we intend to bomb them from the air. Destroying them in detail would involve troops on the grounds fighting their way in and having to spend days doing the job right. Even then you run up against three issues, you have to hold the area long enough to do your magic. You might have to, quite literally, search the entire nation to get all of it. And, the kicker, no matter how well you do the job you are just delaying the inevitable.

    This isn’t the mid 50s when assembling a bomb was still a deep dark secret. Admittedly the finer point of high reliability and high efficiency nuclear weapons are still secret, more or less, but, given the right materials in sufficient quantities, assembling a workable bomb is not beyond anyone with intermediate physics and mechanical aptitude working from basic plans on the internet.

    Before anyone gets a warm feeling because the raw materials are hard to get needs to remember that the technology to create those materials are also well known. Again, the finer points are still kept close to the vest but older brute force techniques, the ones we used during WW2, still work.

    Bottom line is that the best way to keep Iran from getting the bomb is to have them not desire the bomb. Failing that you nuke and/or invade to remove the capability, and repeat that process every few year in perpetuity to keep the capability from reconstituting. But even that horrific turn of events might not work for long. Eventually they will be able to simply buy a bomb.

    Only that first option, the diplomatic option, makes any sense. Failing that we may simply have to accept that Iran will have a bomb, and shortly after they join the nuclear club, they get introduced to the raw realities of nuclear weapons; their main uses are as symbols and bargaining chips.

  • kevinalexander

    @13 Felidae

    So Louie, let’s spend another 2 trillion dollars and go to war

    Let’s put another $2 trillion into the pockets of Gohmert’s patrons. The money doesn’t go into a hole in the ground. Follow it and you know who rules your country.

  • Electric Shaman

    @ Trebuchet

    Gomer Pyle was played by Jim Nabors, a married gay man. Please don’t do that.

    At no point did Dingo Jack refer to Jim Nabors, his sexuality or his marital status. What exactly are you objecting to? Or is this snark that went completely over my head?

  • StevoR

    Jim Wright of the ‘Stonekettle Station’ blog on this topic :

    http://www.stonekettle.com/2015/03/the-narrow-gate.html

    An excellent essay, well worth reading I reckon.

  • scienceavenger

    @4 …enemies that were trying to surrender (Japan)

    Not to derail the thread, but can you expound on this?

  • scienceavenger

    GOPers like Gohmert are walking, talking embodiments of “if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail”, except of course they have a full tool box they are completely ignoring because their hammer is so shiny and expensive.