Fischer: Punish Student for Arabic Pledge of Allegiance

Bryan Fischer took a call on his show from a woman named Cynthia, who wanted to rant quite incoherently about the high school student who recited the pledge of allegiance in Arabic (along with several others in other languages). The result was every bit as stupid as you would expect:

She went on to tell Fischer, “Also, our kids were kicked out of their college dorms because they were saying something — you know, maybe Obama, Eric Holder and Al Sharpton are pushing this so much down our throats, our kids’ throats, that they did this because we’re sick of them, we’re sick of it. But yet the Muslim students can run up in a Jewish classroom and a Christian classroom on the campuses and protest and that’s okay, but throw our children out by midnight, I think they have thirty days to get out legally, but the Muslims run up in there.”

When Fischer asked for clarification, it turns out Cynthia was referring to the University of Oklahoma fraternity students who were filmed singing a racist chant about lynching “n***ers.”

Fischer told her that while he believes the fraternity students should have been disciplined, he agreed with Cynthia that others should also be disciplined… for the high crime of “promoting Islam.”

“I think your point, Cynthia, is we’re landing on this speech over here, yeah it’s offensive, but what about this speech over here that promotes Islam in our school, we are offended by that, why aren’t you doing something about that,” Fischer said. “That’s a good point, Cynthia.”

No, it’s actually a totally moronic point, from both of them. They seem to think that everyone who speaks Arabic is Muslim, which is nonsense. Arab Christians and Arab Jews — there are lots of both — also speak Arabic. Reciting the pledge of allegiance in Arabic does not, in any imaginable way, “promote Islam,” anymore than reciting it in Spanish promotes Catholicism. This is what happens when you put a microphone in front of an ignorant bigot.

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  • scienceavenger

    “I think your point, Cynthia, is we’re landing on this speech over here, yeah it’s offensive, but what about this speech over here that promotes Islam in our school, we are offended by that, why aren’t you doing something about that,” Fischer said. “That’s a good point, Cynthia.”

    Ah yes, the offense trope, trotted out by every bigot-defending slob in an effort to ignore all the other issues, and the fact that those criticizing the racists practically never use.

    It’s not that its offensive that’s the point Fischer. Its the fact that you aren’t offended by it that is.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    Um, Ed, the Koran is written in ARABESE! So anyone praying the Pledge of ALLEGIENCE in Arabese is really praying to Allah, which another name for Islom! That is Treeason!!

  • http://denkeensechtna.blogspot.com Deen

    Also note that these Arab Christians generally use the word “Allah” for god too – and in some countries, are *actually* persecuted for it. You’d think someone like Fischer, who is so focused on Christian persecution, would know this.

  • kantalope

    The pledge should only be forced on people in one language, American, like jesus intended it to be.

  • raven

    Wikipedia

    According to the Arab American Institute, the breakdown of religious affiliation among persons originating from Arab countries is as follows:

    63% Christian

    The wingnuts are equating: Arabic language = Moslem terrorists.

    1. The majority of US Arabs are…xians, 63%.

    2. There is no requirement to say the Pledge in English. The USA does not have an official language.

    3. Nothing new about any of this. A generation or two ago, there was a lot of bigotry directed at immigrants. Italians, Jews, Slavs, and Scandinavians were all looked down upon as slime whose English wasn’t very good.

  • gshelley

    Reciting the pledge of allegiance in Arabic does not, in any imaginable way, “promote Islam,” anymore than reciting it in Spanish promotes Catholicism.

    Though perhaps using the word “Allah”, the Moslem word for God does.

    Of course, we live in the world of the internet, where it is easy to check this out

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html

    Claims that Arabic Christians do use the word “Allah”

  • 4ozofreason

    Telling moment of the call? “Our kids.” Our white, racist kids (because of course, being racist is the default state for white kids).

    Also, next time someone tells me it’s impossible to be racist when talking about Islam because it’s a religion, I’m pointing them to this case, and this caller.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    But yet the Muslim students can run up in a Jewish classroom and a Christian classroom on the campuses and protest and that’s okay…

    Wait… Does this woman actually think that college students are segregated into various classrooms according to their religion?

  • samgardner

    So, malignancies against a race in English are the same as pledging allegiance to the US in Arabic. A pledge that includes, “liberty and justice for all”.

    I suppose to be fair, given her complaint it may not be clear to her that words have meanings.

    I can’t imagine what kind of punishment they might think appropriate. It’s a scary thought.

  • Erp

    I suspect they thoroughly approve of the actions taken against German speaking Americans in World War I. This btw caused my own university to disavow that its motto (which was in German, Die Luft der Freiheit weht) was ever official.

  • matty1

    Loyalty oaths from schoolchildren are kind of creepy anyway but I agree they don’t get any worse depending on the language used.

  • Synfandel

    I’m with matty1: mandatory oaths of allegiance have no place in free societies.

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    Better idea: Punish Fischer for making my head pound with pain from the exposure to his ignorant, Fascist ravings and the veins on my forehead bulge out on at least a weekly basis.

    Also for all of the desks I’ve banged into splinters with my head.

  • matty1

    @12 I don’t know about no place, I’m fine with newly elected or appointed public officials making a formal public statement that they’ll follow the law and serve the people. They’ll probably want some kind of ceremony anyway and that kind of thing serves as a reminder to everyone what their duty is.

    Otherwise though absolutely with you.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    @12:

    I’m with matty1: mandatory oaths of allegiance have no place in free societies.

    Technically speaking, it’s not mandatory. Kids are allowed to opt-out, although that raises the question as to whether it’s really a free choice if you’re pressured into it by teachers and other students. Still, some religious minorities like the JWs make their children opt-out because they think it’s blasphemous.

    That said, I’m quite sure that if Fischer had his way it would be mandatory for both students and adults with serious penalties for non-compliance. And he would be incapable of seeing any contradiction between that and “freedom”.

  • eric

    The big irony here is that if conservatives hadn’t added “under God” to the pledge back in the cold war, there wouldn’t be any promotion of Allah in the pledge…in any language

  • theguy

    “but what about this speech over here that promotes Islam in our school, we are offended by that, why aren’t you doing something about that,”

    Because of the First Amendment’s protection of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Oh, wait, Adolf Fischsticks doesn’t believe in freedom of religion for anybody but Christians. What a lying chickenshit.

    As much as I don’t like (certain aspects of) religion, I can see a huge different between promoting a religion and reciting a racist chant about lynching minorities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/park.james.102 parkjames

    God damn the lunatic fringe just loves to talk about things being jammed down people’s throats. I’m sure it has nothing to do with their fear and hatred of all things sexual.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    Now might be a good time to remind people that many of our elected officials are going on a trip to Israel sponsored by Fischer’s group.

  • colnago80

    Re d.c.Wilson @ #19

    It is my information that Fischer has not been invited to join the trip due to a number of remarks he has made that reek of antisemitism.