WND: Terri Schiavo Proof of ‘United States of Atheism’

It’s the 10th anniversary of the official death of Terri Schiavo (she had actually died many years earlier, though her body was being kept alive as some sort of ghoulish experiment) and the Worldnetdaily is profiting off it by selling what looks like an utterly ridiculous book about it by one of their former editors. Diana Lynne makes some rather bizarre connections here:

In short, Terri’s cognitive disability rendered her vulnerable to judicial homicide by those who reject God as Creator of all things and seek to undo the Judeo-Christian underpinning of America. This horrific triumph of judicial tyranny emboldened the Godless, who have only become more brazen and overt in their efforts in the decade since.

Wha? She thinks the growth of atheism in America was spurred by the Terri Schiavo story? I want some of what she’s smoking.

If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today. Her name would not be associated with the barbarous, 13-day, court-ordered death by dehydration to which she succumbed on March 31, 2005 – 10 years ago. The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on her body days after her death estimated the severely brain-injured, but otherwise healthy, 41-year-old would have lived another decade if not for being killed through the denial of food and water.

Now that is some weapons-grade bullshit. The autopsy actually showed that half of her brain was gone. It had literally turned to liquid. She could have “lived” for another decade only by being kept alive artificially. She was gone, permanently. The autopsy actually supported everything her husband Michael had been saying and the family had been denying. It takes serious delusion or dishonesty to pretend that the autopsy supported the case against letting her body die.

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  • amenhotepstein

    Not only that, but her “13-day, court-ordered death by dehydration” was only because of those self-same “Christian” folk, who forbid medical euthanasia. It takes a singular mind to both condemn painless, rapid medical euthanasia and the protracted, painful, horrendous deaths which that condemnation produces.

  • http://inmyunbelief.wordpress.com TCC

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    This is sort of true in the most trivially way possible. If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak, it would have been evidence of brain activity and there would have been more of a case for allowing her to remain on life support. But her inability to speak isn’t what caused her to be taken off life support; it was just a symptom of the larger problem (her massive, irreparable brain damage).

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/ Martin Wagner

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    Yeah, pretty sure they’ve got the whole sequencing of this thought precisely backwards.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com holytape

    Well, if the world was governed by a merciful, benevolent God would this situation have happened?

  • Chiroptera

    This horrific triumph of judicial tyranny emboldened the Godless, who have only become more brazen and overt in their efforts in the decade since.

    Wut?

    If I recall correctly, the ruling didn’t require anything but allowed Shiavo’s husband to make a decision as her legal guardian. That’s kind of the opposite of tyranny.

  • dingojack

    “In short, Terri’s cognitive disability rendered her vulnerable to judicial homicide …”

    For Fundies being brain-dead due to having half your brain as liquidised mush is a mere ‘cognitive disability‘.

    I wonder what diagnosis Ms Lyne would receive?

    Dingo

  • raven

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    You could say the same thing about the dandelion I pulled up out of my lawn.

    If that dandelion could talk and had something interesting to say, I would have left it or carefully moved it somewhere else.

  • John Pieret

    I don’t think she’s saying that the growth of atheism in America was spurred by the Terri Schiavo story … it just encouraged the godless to crawl out from under the rocks where they hid in shame and admit and even revel in their monstrous sins.

    To be fair, she is even harder on the “self-professed Christians” who acquiesced and even applauded Schiavo’s death.

  • raven

    “In short, Terri’s cognitive disability rendered her vulnerable to judicial homicide

    Millions of heads of lettuce are slaughtered every year due to their cognitive disability.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    A true statement. If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, it would have been because she hadn’t suffered the severe brain damage she did in fact suffer. And no one would have been talking about taking her off life support.

  • Loqi

    I want some of what she’s smoking.

    I don’t. It apparently turns you into a moron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    The timing is interesting. Jeb Bush, who made it is his mission as governor to maintain the fiction the Terri Schiavo wasn’t effectively brain dead is due to announce his candidacy for president fairly soon. Looks like this book was rushed out to preempt any blowback Bush 3.0 may face over this issue.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Wait — now they’re going on a rant against “judicial homicide?” Has anyone warned Texas?

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    the Worldnetdaily is profiting off it by selling what looks like an utterly ridiculous book

    I made the mistake of buying the Collector’s Edition. It comes with an action figure. It just lays there.

  • dingojack

    Raven (#9) – … and then doctor says “There’s no easy way to say this Mr and Mrs Potato-head — I’m afraid your child will be a vegetable for the rest of her life.”

    [dilatory drum-fill].

    :) Dingo

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    The fight was never about medical care for Terri Schiavo. It happened because Michael Schiavo spent all the insurance money on her care, and Terri’s parents wanted the money for themselves. They didn’t give a hoot about their own daughter. The story they told to the media, religious fanatics and politicians was a fiction.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-24-schiavo-money-cover_x.htm

    It is a feud, to some degree, over principle. Michael Schiavo says Terri should be allowed to die because she told him long before she was stricken that she would never want to be kept alive by a feeding tube or other such measures. The Schindlers say their son-in-law is starving Terri to death. They want to keep her alive and try to rehabiliate her.

    But it also appears to be a fight over money — how a $1 million malpractice settlement Schiavo won 13 years ago over Terri’s care should be spent.

    […]

    On Valentine’s Day that year, he [Michael Schiavo] testified, he was in his wife’s nursing home room studying. He wanted to become a nurse so he could care for his wife himself. He had taken Terri to California for experimental treatment. A doctor there had placed a stimulator inside Terri’s brain and those of other people in vegetative states to try to stimulate still-living but dormant cells.

    According to Schiavo’s testimony, the Schindlers came into Terri’s room in the nursing home, spoke to their daughter, then turned to him.

    “The first words out of my father-in-law’s mouth was how much money he was going to get,” Schiavo said. “I was, ‘What do you mean?’ ‘Well, you owe me money.’ ”

    Schiavo said he told his in-laws that all the money had gone to his wife — a lie he said he told Bob Schindler “to shut him up because he was screaming.”

    Schiavo said his father-in-law called him “a few choice words,” then stormed out of the room. Schiavo said he started to follow him, but his mother-in-law stepped in front of him, saying, “This is my daughter, our daughter, and we deserve some of this money.”

    Who should we believe? The husband who was there 24/7 taking care of his disabled wife, or the absent parents who never contributed to the care, who showed up only after the insurance cheque was signed?

  • Larry

    In just a couple of hundred words, Lynne got precisely 100% of her facts totally and completely wrong. It is simply amazing that anyone with at least the self-awareness of a turnip can so completely miss the facts of this sad event. She managed.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    The only tyranny I can recall was inflicted on Michael Schiavo, who was prevented from exercising his rights as his wife’s legal guardian and subjected to all manner of abuse by hate-filled conservatives. It was one of the more indecent episodes in their long and ugly history.

  • theguy

    Euthanasia is a subject I’m a bit ambivalent about. I think that if someone of sound mind consents to it (and they have an incurable, terminal disease) they should be allowed to die painlessly.

    Of course, Schiavo’s mind was half-destroyed, as mentioned in the initial blog post. There was no way she was coming back. At the time, I thought this case underscored the need for people to have a living will.

    The Wingnut Daily post wishes to claim that atheism leads to a lack of concern for human life? I don’t buy it; the morons who write for WND are fine with denying medical care to poor children. Would they have supported Schiavo’s right to live if the entire bill was footed by taxpayers, instead of by her husband, as mentioned in #16?

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    I’ve been amused, in a sick, look-at-the-20-car-pileup sort of way that people who believe strongly in an afterlife are so completely terrified of death. I read somewhere that there’s a correlation between belief and the use of extraordinary measures to prolong life. What ever happened to leaving things in God’s hands? I would think that someone with that degree of faith in God would want to do less, not more. Other than a few fringe sects, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

  • raven

    I read somewhere that there’s a correlation between belief and the use of extraordinary measures to prolong life.

    This is true. The ones most likely to use and demand futile extraordinary measures at the end of their life are fundie xians. Despite what they say, they don’t seem to be in any hurry to go to heaven and meet god.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    Well, yeah, if she’d been able to speak for herself, that would have been because the catastrophic incident that caused her death had never happened.

    Gotta love that wingnut logic — sometimes it ends up being right in the wrongest possible ways!

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    The ones most likely to use and demand futile extraordinary measures at the end of their life are fundie xians.

    It’s not about life or avoidance of death; it’s about power over others, and doing everything they can to make sure that everyone else’s actions are guided by their simpleminded beliefs, regardless of any other facts or circumstances.

  • busterggi

    “If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.”

    Maybe, maybe not but she most deinately would have not been brain-dead then as she clearly was.

  • mistertwo

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself alive then, she most likely would would have had a slight chance to still be alive today.

    FTFY

  • teele

    I don’t understand how, if you believe that Mrs. Schiavo had a soul, you could be in favor of trapping her soul inside a useless body for years just because medical science has made it possible. That requires a very special kind of viciousness. It seems to me that their deity made his intentions clear, and Mrs. Schiavo’s parents and their supporters were willing to do everything in their power to prevent his intentions from being realized (except pay for it, of course).

    The one image I will never forget from that time was a picture of some creepy charlatan from another state who traveled to Florida with a cortege of nubile young female teenagers, and posed them for the cameras with big chunks of duct tape across their mouths. I know that’s been done often in the intervening years, but that was the first time I saw it, and it offended me deeply, in the same way that PETA ads offend me. Young girls, still at an age to have “sincere beliefs,” exploited by middle-aged zealots — it makes my skin crawl.

  • Anne Fenwick

    If Terri Schiavo had been able to speak for herself, she most likely would be alive today.

    Yes. People being able to speak for themselves is pretty diagnostic in deciding they are not brain dead and should be helped to stay alive. So?

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    @19:

    Of course, Schiavo’s mind was half-destroyed, as mentioned in the initial blog post.

    I’d say her mind was completely destroyed. Her brain was about half destroyed, but as I understand things, it was the opinion of every qualified person who examined her and her autopsy results (e.g. not Bill Frist trying to diagnose her on the House floor) that she was incapable of any conscious thought. The neurons of her frontal cortex, responsible for what we think of as “mind”, were totally gone, and what she was left with were regions that could barely process autonomic responses. A living corpse, as it were.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    @20:

    I’ve been amused, in a sick, look-at-the-20-car-pileup sort of way that people who believe strongly in an afterlife are so completely terrified of death.

    I think this is probably the case. It’s amazing how if you look at what drives fundie beliefs, both past and present, what you’ll find is a massively exaggerated fear of death. It’s very weird, and very hard to explain without just chalking it up to characterological disposition.

  • anubisprime

    I might be mistaken but were not her parents supported, if not advised, by a katolic’ priest, It seemed every time they appeared in news segments at the time the priest dressed as a Capuchin Friar, although possible from some other cockamamie cult within a cult, was always visible hovering in the background…like some indolent voracious vulture with extremely beady eyes.

    Sad case whatever, but an extremely important one none the less, and as for missy’s nonsense above it comes across as hyperbolic hand wringing if not actually facetious and insulting, while still massively understating Terri’s condition both mentally and physically.

    Shame on the petulance of Lynne, that was ill considered and atrociously represented article, but par for the world nut daily.

  • jnorris

    These same Christians would keep Ms Schiavo’s body functioning with technology and medical science, because that is God’s will.

    But they will let a parent kill their child by denying that child the same technology and medical science, because that is God’s will.

  • mithrandir

    Ed said:

    Wha? She thinks the growth of atheism in America was spurred by the Terri Schiavo story? I want some of what she’s smoking.

    Actually, she may be right, though not the way she thinks. The horrible ghoulishness of the “keep Schiavo’s body alive long after the brain is gone” crowd could easily have helped turn people off religion, especially if their faith were wavering.