Rafael Cruz Still Demands Mandatory Prayer in Schools

Rafael Cruz continues to use ridiculous talking points when making public appearances, preferring the fantastic narrative in his head to reality. This time he’s blaming the Supreme Court prayer rulings for causing violent crime, teen pregnancies and all manner of terrible things.

In an interview with Iowa-based conservative radio host Steve Deace on Friday, Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz, repeated his frequent assertion that Supreme Court rulings limiting government-sponsored prayer in schools led to spikes in violent crime and teen pregnancy, claiming that until then, the “Bible was the principal textbook in all schools all the way to universities.”…

“The church is actually more responsible to the place where America is today than anybody else,” he said. “Because if we go back to 1962 and 1963, two abominable decisions of the Supreme Court. 1962, prayer was taken out of schools; 1963, Bible teaching was taken out of schools. You know, for generations kids prayed in school before starting the day. The Bible was the principal textbook in all schools all the way to universities.”

The “church remained silent” in the face of those Supreme Court decisions, he said. “The consequence of that, we can see it in the statistics. Teen pregnancy skyrocketed after 1963 and so did violent crime, all as a result of taking Bible-reading and prayer out of schools.”

And yet violent crime and teen pregnancy have both been dropping like mad over the last 25 years. Teen Pregnancy has dropped more than 50% since 1990 and violent crime has made a similar drop. Did prayer and Bible reading suddenly get put back in? Nope. So much for that theory. And remember, this is a guy who claims to be all about freedom and liberty, yet here he is advocating that the government force school children to recite government-composed prayers and be forced to read the Bible even if they aren’t Christian. Because those words mean the opposite to the Christian right than they mean to everyone else.

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  • NYC atheist

    ‘The church remained silent’

    Did it?

  • dingojack

    The greatest year-on-year increase in homicide rates per hundred thousand (based on FBI figures between 1950 and 2013) was between the years 1957 and 1958, up 20%! Way above the next highest (11% between 1967/8).

    Oh Rafael, you gotalot of ‘splainin’ to do!

    Dingo

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #2

    What explaining? The FBI is obviously part of the left wing Christian hating Fascist Communist conspiracy and it’s figures are obviously faked. End snark.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    The Bible was the principal textbook in all schools all the way to universities.

    He has a point here. Growing up, I went to Catholic schools and the only textbook we had from 1st grade thru senior year of high school was the Bible. Paul’s letter to the Algrebraics and Geometrams was very helpful in learning math. The Bible’s chapters on WWII were so helpful in my history class, too. Now, the chapters on Spanish were a little iffy since King James’s Spanish was atrocious, but we all know from the Tower of Babel that learning a new language goes against God’s law anyway.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    …The Bible was the principal textbook in all schools all the way to universities.”

    He’s right. I remember using the Book of Numbers back in Math class. Plus, slide rules were marked in Biblical passages.

     

    Teen Pregnancy has dropped more than 50% since 1990 and violent crime has made a similar drop. Did prayer and Bible reading suddenly get put back in? Nope.

    You’re ignoring the positive effect all those new crosses and Ten Commandments monuments have had.

  • gshelley

    I suspect the church was as silent about bible readings no longer being forced on children as it has been about same sex marriage

  • http://helives.blogspot.com heddle

    …The Bible was the principal textbook in all schools all the way to universities.

    Yep, even nuclear physics. Everything we know about the bound proton-neutron system, the deuteron, comes, naturally, from the Book of Deuteronomy.

  • Doc Bill

    Can we simply ignore Rafael Cruz? So what that he’s Teddy’s sperm donor; it doesn’t mean we need to listen to his babble.

    For entertainment, however, that’s another story!

    I loved the days of the Carter clan – Miss Lillian and Billy “Beer” Carter. Laff Riot.

    I was living in London at the time and each week Punch had a column called “Letters from Miz Lillian” about all the goings on at th’ White House. That family was instant parody.

  • John Pieret

    Jeebus! Like theschwa I went to Catholic schools, including a Jesuit college. The only “bible” course I had in college was one taught by a Protestant that showed the bible was a human document and that “Abraham’s God” was not, even by the bible’s own terms, the one “true god,” but one of many (think Terry Pratchett’s Small Gods without the comedy).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    I call shenanigans on The Schwa. No good Catholic would ever even touch a King James bible. It was the Douay-Rheims version or nothing.

  • daved

    As someone once said: There will always be prayer in schools as long as there are surprise math quizzes.

    That aside, I’m all for bringing prayer back to public schools, as long as I get to write the prayers. My first set will all be imprecatory prayers requesting the horrible and violent death of Rafael Cruz. They won’t work, of course, but writing them will be a blast.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    @ billdaniels (#10): Good catch! It was actually a very liberal Catholic school. But we did not use a KJV. We used the Orange Catholic Bible. 2 of our teachers were Bene Gesserit sisters.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    Teen Pregnancy has dropped more than 50% since 1990

    .

    Guess birth control works better than prayer :/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    I went to two different Catholic schools and one public schools in Chicago in the 50s and 60s. I never saw a bible the whole time. And, being Catholics, we never had a bible in our house. No one I knew had one.

  • Al Dente

    I went to Catholic high school in the 1960s and we had a class on the Bible. The myth that Catholics didn’t have Bibles is exactly that, a myth.

  • macallan

    And, being Catholics, we never had a bible in our house. No one I knew had one.

    We, being atheists, had one ( I’m pretty sure my father still has it ). Printed in 1902, so it is kind of a historical artifact and treated as such.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    I only went to Catholic elementary schools and the bible was rarely mentioned. I lived in a blue-collar ethnic neighborhood and a lot of the houses did not have any books at all. My statement was based on my personal, limited experience only. No generalization was meant.

  • David Eriksen

    re: theschwa @12

    2 of our teachers were Bene Gesserit sisters.

    Did you have to recite the Litany Against Fear when they smacked your knuckles with rulers?

  • jnorris

    In any jurisdiction that has mandatory prayer in the public schools, all religious institutions therein have to pay property taxes to support the schools. If the schools are going to do the churches’ job, then the churches have to pay for it.