Starnes’ Deliberate Lack of Understanding

Because Todd Starnes, Fox News’ resident hysteric, simply cannot see gay people as human beings, he finds it impossible to understand why they don’t want people to discriminate against them. So naturally, he dismisses it all as an evil desire to destroy Christians.

It really is frightening to know that you could just be minding your own business in your own store or shop and all of the sudden LGBT activists come in and you find yourself in the middle of some sort of a lawsuit. You know, the Kleins have already lost their bakery, they don’t have $135,000. And as a result of this fine they could lose this home. You really have to step back and ask yourself: What is it that the LGBT activists, what is it that these government officials want? Do they want to destroy Christians? Do they want to force all of us out of our homes? Do they want to say, ‘If you’re a Christian, if you follow Christ, the teachings of Christ, you are not qualified to own a business or run a shop in the state of Oregon?’ Is that what they are trying to say?

It’s really not that difficult to understand: They want to be treated as equals. You see, if an atheist was just “minding their own business in their own store” and “all of a sudden Christians came in” and demanded service, they could find themselves “in the middle of some sort of lawsuit” — but only if they refused to serve them. Because federal law makes it illegal to discriminate in public accommodations on the basis of religion, as it should. And yet there are no actual instances of this happening. Atheist-owned businesses don’t typically discriminate against Christians.

What gay people want are exactly the same protections that Christians have and take for granted. A Muslim can’t refuse to hire or serve a Christian even if their “sincerely held religious beliefs” tell them that they should. Ironically, it’s the Christians who are demanding “special rights” to discriminate in ways that they would never accept for themselves.

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  • Chiroptera

    What is it that the LGBT activists, what is it that these government officials want?

    I think they just want to buy a cake.

  • Doc Bill

    I think it’s cool that the essence of the argument is now “cake.”

    I thought everybody liked cake.

  • footface

    I always get the feeling these Christians aren’t very well acquainted with Christianity. “Love thine enemy,” “Do unto others…” “Let him who is without sin…” “Turn the other cheek.” I guess that Jesus character is just some peripheral figure.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    And yet there are no actual instances of this happening. Atheist-owned businesses don’t typically discriminate against Christians.

    Yes, but the reason it doesn’t happen is because Christians don’t shop at Athiest stores. What does an Athiest store sell, anyway? Nothing?

  • Alverant

    Doc Bill, the cake is a lie!

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @footface

    It’s a take on No True Scotsman, except in this case nobody is a True Scotsman (or Christian.) The precepts attributed to Jesus are honored far more in the breach than in the observance.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    Do they want to say, ‘If you’re a Christian, if you follow Christ, the teachings of Christ, you are not qualified to own a business or run a shop in the state of Oregon?’

    I’ve tried and tried and I can’t find the place in the Bible where Jesus says that you shouldn’t bake a cake for a gay wedding. Perhaps Mr. Starnes would be kind enough to point it out to us.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    What does an Athiest store sell, anyway? Nothing?

    Wine and crackers that refuse to transsubstantiate.

  • eric

    It really is frightening to know that you could just be minding your own business in your own store or shop…

    …just broadcasting on you tube, facebook, and twitter that you will not serve gays and if anyone wants to contribute, here’s the button you can click, but if anyone doesn’t like it, they can go to hell…

    Why, oh why, would the government or gay activists consider such introverts for a lawsuit? It must be because they’re mean!

    What does an Athiest store sell, anyway?

    The communist manifesto, written in Muslim.

  • dingojack

    Cake — a lesser known creation of Jesus’ at the Canaan Wedding.

    Dingo

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    ‘If the peoples’ rights are unequal, let the eat … oh wait!’

  • Jared James

    I’d be worried that Starnes was projecting his own desire to hurt other people if I for a minute thought he was anything other than a lying shill trying to vacuum up his share of ignorant bumpkin dollars.

  • theguy

    “Do they want to force all of us out of our homes?”

    Considering that about 40% of homeless people are LGBT, this is simply more projection from Starnes.

    Would people like Starnes favor a double standard where Christians can refuse service to others but nobody can refuse service to Christians? Probably, assuming they’ve even thought of the latter happening even as a hypothetical possibility.

  • cptdoom

    If the Kleins are at risk of losing their home because of the fine, doesn’t that mean they didn’t properly incorporate and insure their business? Are we supposed to be sorry for them because they are incompetent business owners, as well as being bigots?

  • Chiroptera

    You know, the Kleins have already lost their bakery, they don’t have $135,000.

    A fine they could have avoided by baking the cake. Which, you know, is (or was) their entire business. Which they do every day. And they’d have gotten paid for it.

    Instead of being out $135,000, they could have been up by whatever the mark up on a cake is.

  • samgardner

    If you ask them, though, they’ll often claim to be just fine work someone refusing them service because they’re Christians. After all, they know that not only can they simply go to the next store, they also know a business which refused Christians won’t be in business very long.

  • John Pieret

    What is it that the LGBT activists, what is it that these government officials want?

    What the gay couple wanted was a cake … that the Kleins could have baked and delivered to wherever the reception was without being anywhere near the “satanic” ceremony.

    What the government wants is for them to sell them the fucking cake, the same way they’d sell it to every other “sinful” person out there.

    What the Kleins wanted was the right to pick out some people and show them that they are beneath dignity.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    theguy @ # 12: … about 40% of homeless people are LGBT…

    Citation, please!

  • grumpyoldfart

    He knows his audience well. He knows which buttons to press. He also knows exactly how much controversy will get him a pay rise and how much will get him the sack.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    @Pierce Butler

    It’s not 40% of homeless people, it’s 40% of homeless youth. The sad truth is, for many gay adolescents, coming out means getting kicked out of the house without any resources.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    WMDKitty… @ # 19 – Thanks, that figure is both more familiar and more plausible.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    Only Dictionary Atheist stores sell nothing … except dictionaries.