How the Christian Right Views Itself

Jim Garlow, the furiously anti-gay megapreacher from California, offers us a glimpse of how the Christian right views itself. And how is that? As brave dissenters standing up to the enemy (Satan, Obama, Hitler, whomever) in the name of God.

California pastor Jim Garlow, who is active in conservative politics and was among the key leaders of the campaign to pass Proposition 8, appeared on Tony Perkins’ “Washington Watch” program yesterday to discuss his church’s upcoming Future Conference, which will include appearances by Perkins, Newt Gingrich, Mat Staver.

Garlow said that Staver, the Liberty Counsel attorney who has called formass civil disobedience and a revolution to stop gay marriage, will be “speaking on a topic that most of us didn’t want to hear about, and that’s when biblical obedience translates into civil disobedience and we become an underground resistance movement.”

They really do imagine themselves as the modern equivalent of the French underground, which bravely fought from the shadows against Hitler’s puppet government. In reality, of course, they are the ones continually fighting against every civil rights advance in the nation’s history.

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  • tbp1

    I keep asking for specifics about what “civil disobedience” against gay marriage will consist of. So far…nada.

    Besides not marrying someone of the same sex, what is it, exactly, they plan to do?

    And “underground resistance?” Really? Really?

  • Sastra

    My guess is that they think “civil disobedience” involves pastors preaching the Truth in their churches and “underground resistance” is telling your children that God thinks gay marriage is an abomination. Their difficulty distinguishing public-as-in-government and public-as-in-public square when it comes to church/state separation cases is possibly fueling their paranoia on this issue.

  • colnago80

    Re tbp1 @ #1

    What are they going to do? They’re going to stand in the courthouse door to prevent gays and lesbians from obtaining marriage licenses.

  • Larry

    Exactly, Sastra. And waiting to martyred by Obama’s jack-booted thugs made up of the Crips and Bloods gangsters or dragged off to jail and prosecuted for their faith.

  • John Pieret

    This just a variant on their martyr complex. The need to have the whole world arrayed against them so they can prove how great their faith is and their fellow believers will applaud them. Like their claims of persecution, their “underground” will turn out to be nonexistent and the rest of us will laugh at and/or ignore them.

  • Chaos Engineer

    I think this is the wedding cake issue again. Depending on how the upcoming court cases turn out, it might be that a licensed business isn’t ever allowed to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. (I think the cases could go either way; it depends on how expansive the “Hobby Lobby v. Sebellius” ruling turns out to be.)

    If that happens, a homophobic baker can go underground, by starting an unlicensed cakeeasy and getting customers strictly from word-of-mouth referrals. The government probably won’t care unless there’s a large amount of unreported taxable income, or if someone gets food poisoning. But the bakers can still pretend they’re doing something really dangerous and subversive if it makes them happy.

  • gshelley

    @Colagno80, #3

    What are they going to do? They’re going to stand in the courthouse door to prevent gays and lesbians from obtaining marriage licenses.

    But that would be doing things in the open. Their resistance will be an underground, hence secretive movement

  • Chiroptera

    gshelley, #7:

    Except that conservatives have never seemed to understand what words mean, so colnago may very well be right.

  • dugglebogey

    They are puppets. The GOP, who really doesn’t give a crap about gay marriage, is using them as tools to make congregations think they are victims. That they are “under attack” from the liberals who want to “take their religion” away from them.

    They’re stooges. Agents of an evil force that’s trying to use them to gain power.

  • cptdoom

    So glad they’re getting that bastion of “traditional marriage” Newt Gingrich to speak. He loves marriage so much he can’t stop doing it!

  • Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden

    a topic that most of us didn’t want to hear about: … when biblical obedience translates into civil disobedience and we become an underground resistance movement.

    Okay, so

    1) civil disobedience

    and

    2) underground resistance

    are completely contradictory. It is impossible for both to be true descriptions of the same movement.

    Like religions, however, it is possible for all descriptions to be false. Note that going on the radio to talk about his plans makes “underground” wrong by definition.

    And I don’t think he even knows what civil disobedience is.

  • samgardner

    Well, isn’t it OBVIOUS what civil disobedience would be? They’ll continue to believe gay marriage is wrong and wait for the police to come arrest them. Because in their minds, that’s what would happen.

    Our, possibly they don’t think the police will come, but that simply not believing in a particular law amounts to disobedience.