Anti-Gay Michigan Pastor Caught Trolling on Grindr

Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: Christian minister routinely rails about the evils of The Gay and it turns out that he’s gay himself. And it’s happening right here in Michigan, where a Lutheran minister from Midland was caught because he has an account on Grindr. Oh, and he’s a top.

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Queerty says:

In an email exchange with Queerty, Makela confirmed the authenticity of the screen captures but declined to comment.

He also told Queerty that he had “resigned” from his position at the church after the story surfaced, and that his wife and senior pastor had been made aware of his extracurricular activities.

But his community also deserves to know. If Makela made even one LGBT kid at St. John’s “Christ-based” elementary school, their parents, friends, family or anyone who ever stepped foot in the church feel like being true to yourself is shameful (and it seems all too likely that he did), then we’re glad to share his hypocrisy with the world.

Now the church has put out a statement urging their parishioners not to read the Queerty article lest they come face to face with the “details of the sin.”

“Pastor has acknowledged that there was sin and repentance,” Kempin reassures his flock. Kempin concedes it’s the “end of our time together in ministry,” but that he encourages churchgoers to pray for Makela and his family.

Makela’s resignation is difficult enough, Kempin continues, but “to make matters worse, though, the details of sin that have been kept confidential are being posted online by those who seek to do harm to the Makela family and to St. John’s.”

“I write this to you to warn you that you may be confronted with the details of the sin,” Kempin cautions parishioners.

Makela and church leadership have taken down Facebook pages that the media might wish to rifle through in search of incriminating evidence. “But the internet and age of communication being what it is,” Kempin laments, “I have no way of guaranteeing that you will not come across this information in some way.”

Yeah, if they find out their pastor is a flaming hypocrite, it might make them reconsider their own positions. And we can’t have that, can we?

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  • busterggi

    “Pastor has acknowledged that there was sin and repentance,”

    And he doesn’t know which felt better.

  • John Pieret

    Blessed are the hypocrites, for they shall be popular in the pews.

  • Jared James

    I’m probably the only one that finds the “blow the sinner, hate the sin” doctrine confusing.

  • dingojack

    No, no this simply can’t be true. Christian can’t identify themselves publically, just ask Franklin Graham!

    @@

    Dingo

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    X-post.

  • teele

    The not-so-righteous rev is kind of a yawn at this point — if you spend any time watching Investigation Discovery, you know that the really sick-o wife murderers are always god-fearin’ preacher men, and the guys most likely to be spending every night in “gentleman’s clubs” and stuffing cocaine up their noses are generally at least deacons or youth pastors.

    The disturbing part of the story, the element that shows the real danger of religion, is the other pastor instructing his flock to stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and chant “neener, neener, neener.” Dude committed a sin, used his get-out-hell-free card, and should be left alone, and NO, you shouldn’t try to find out what actually happened, just leave all that to me. And be sure to show up at church this Sunday, and put a little something extra in the begging bowl.

    The good thing is that every kid between 10 and 20 who sees the pastor’s warning to not look it up on the evil internet, will do so, and will have one more reason to look at the church and say to himself, “da-fork???”.

  • tsig

    Looks like he blew his cover.

  • Alverant

    I don’t care what he does on his own time, but it’s being a hypocrite that annoys me. Own up to your actions and beliefs. The “do as I say not as I do” crowd never has much appeal to me.

  • eric

    Pastor has acknowledged that there was sin and repentance

    You tell gay kids that every gay thought is evil and that they must change who they are. They go through years of hell because of listening directly to what you say makes them feel bad, and indirectly because how your words affect other people’s view of them…but somehow YOU earn repentance in a few minutes, practically before the story hits the streets, and now you expect everyone to move on and say nothing about your behavior. Hey f**kf*ce, why don’t you treat your parishoners the way you want to be treated?

    I don’t care what he does on his own time, but it’s being a hypocrite that annoys me.

    To some extent I don’t even care what sort of hypocrisy you practice on your own time. You want to tell your family you think some behavior is sinful while you do it, I don’t care. But if you bully, insult, and shame kids for their normal behavior, you should be called out for it. Moreover, since your job involves ministering and supposedly giving good advice to kids, you should be fired.

  • jaybee

    Alverant @7, I agree with you and just wanted to affirm that none of us (I hope) are laughing at his because he is gay. In fact, I have a lot of empathy for the fact he is gay/bisexual and life has led him to a place where he has to hide it. The only reason to bring up the story is that he is a hypocrite who helped shame and repress people who perhaps weren’t as constrained as he was in expressing who they really are.

  • dingojack

    Eric – “Hey f**kf*ce, why don’t you treat your parishoners the way you want to be treated? ”

    Didn’t some long-haired layabout, who hung around with a bunch of guys (and the occasional ‘lady of the night’), say something kinda similar:

    “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”

    What was his name again?

    Dingo

    ———

    OK – it’s an oldie, but a goody.

  • Scr… Archivist

    Anti-Gay Michigan Pastor Caught Trolling on Grindr

    Don’t you mean “trawling”?

    If he was trolling them it wouldn’t be news.

  • D. C. Sessions

    And here I thought that one of the key planks of “repentance” is first doing your best to repair any harm you’ve done.

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  • robnyny

    #11:

    “Trolling” is the right term.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28gay_slang%29

    Troll and trolling are slang terms used almost exclusively amongst gay men to characterize gay, bisexual and questioning or bi-curious men who cruise or “wander about looking”[1] for sex or potential sex partners or experiences “in a notably wanton manner and with lessened standards of what one will accept in a partner.”[2]

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002686842900 ChristineRose

    I first heard the term “troll” in the 1970s to mean an unattractive man who lurks around gay bars hitting at random on all the cute guys. As it was also a verb, I assume it was related to the fishing term “troll” which seems to be a variant of “trawl.” Apparently there is a technical difference though. Anyhow it means throwing out a bunch of lines and grabbing things at random.

    I always thought this was the origin of the Internet term as well, as your typical troll is an unattractive (not necessarily physically) person who is throwing things out to get a reaction s/he has not earned. For example, by making outrageous insincere remarks. Of course they also live under bridges.

    So this guy is throwing his sexy pics out on Grindr, trying to catch something, and giving false information. He says he has a “gf” and two kids, actually he has a wife and five children. So he fits this definition of troll.

  • grumpyoldfart

    I remember comedians Kenneth Williams & Hugh Paddick on the 1950s radio show “Round The Horn”. In their (gay) Julian & Sandy routine they often said, “Who’s that trolling in,” or “Look at him trolling about.”

  • robnyny

    “Trawling” and “trolling” are both originally fishing terms, but they are different. “Trawling” is dragging large nets for a large, indiscriminate catch. “Trolling” is gliding a boat silently without disturbing the fish. See “trolling motor.”

  • pippinsqueak

    But see this is why so many Christian men call homosexuality a “choice”. Because they have homosexual feelings that they choose not to act on. Except when they do. But to them it’s still wrong and they are just good people who gave into evil temptation. That’s how evil the evil is – it even overcame their goodness. So everyone needs to fight the evil harder. Including them. And the first step in helping them fight harder is for everyone to forgive them. Got it?

  • tfkreference

    Well, he is from Midland. From a UP perspective, he does live below the bridge (the Mackinac Bridge, that is).

  • tfkreference

    “it might make them reconsider their own positions”

    Heh heh.

  • Alverant

    Eric and jaybee, yes I don’t think anyone is against him for being gay. I’d even go so far as to say no one is really after him for being a hypocrite alone. It’s the fact his preaching is hurting others combined with how he’s doing it himself. That kind of self-loathing and phony justification does real harm to himself and others.

    I’m annoyed at hypocrisy, especially when I’m the one doing it. It seems to be part of human nature that we have to accept is there and always be on guard against. It doesn’t excuse the harm it can do though.

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    Outing someone who has done nothing wrong is criminal, or at least it should be treated as a criminal act (e.g. the outing and subsequent suicides of Tyler Clementi and Dr. V).

    Outing hypocrites who perpetrate the very acts they claim to oppose (e.g. Diehl, Desjarlais, Rekers, etc.) is not just fair game, it’s necessary because of the damage their acts and words cause. I have no problem with people like that pastor being named as long as they are also not driven to suicide. But given how narcissistic and sociopathic most are, I doubt they would.

  • anubisprime

    teele @ 5

    The disturbing part of the story, the element that shows the real danger of religion, is the other pastor instructing his flock to stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and chant “neener, neener, neener.”

    Classic ain’t it….and also demonstrates quite succinctly that the dullard pastor has very little to no faith in his make believe god, who . according to the advertisement blurb, already knew in fact ordained that the dude would be outed for the rank hypocrite he obviously is.

    This is just damage limitation of their scam, which means it is not godly, it is not a holy mission led church, it is a fuckin’ scam that needs the rubes to close their eyes and shut their gobs about things that are embarrassing to the church …that and nothing more!

  • colnago80

    Re leftOver1Under @ #22

    Let’s not forget Ted Haggard who, before being caught with a male prostitute, was the pastor of one of the largest mega-churches in the world.

  • theDukedog7 .

    [their pastor is a flaming hypocrite]

    No, he’s not a hypocrite, as best I can see.

    Hypocricy is the holding of two different standards–one for oneself, one for others. If the pastor said: “homosexual conduct is ok for me, but not for others”, that would be hypocrisy. I don’t see that he said or believed that. My guess is that homosexual desire is something he struggled with, and he lost the struggle at times. That’s not hypocrisy, any more than a reformed alcoholic who spends his time telling people about the dangers of alcoholism but who backslides himself and drinks is a hypocrite.

    The essence of hypocrisy is not doing things that we believe are evil–that is the human condition. None of us live up to our own standards. Hypocrisy is the holding of two standards. I see no evidence that the pastor felt that his own conduct was any less sinful than the conduct of others who had gay sex.

    Now, this is something that is hypocrisy: to accuse others of hypocrisy for not living up to their own standards, but to recuse oneself from such a label.

  • StevoR

    Sounds like time for the ole Ted Haggard tune again :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ

    Can the world just accept equal marriage,relegate these hateful hypocritical homophobes to the same social social and historic status as opponents of interracial marriage and slavery and move on already please?

  • StevoR

    @25. theDukedog7 : .. ” as best I can see”

    You might want to take that plank out your eye before you go looking at motes in others eyes.

    (I believe a certain old Rabbi you claim to follow said that once. Along with shit about loving one’s neighbour and ones neighbour is everyone even -indeed especially – those humans you hate most.)

    BTW. Whaddya think of the Biblical covenant between King David and Prince Jonathan :

    http://www.thebricktestament.com/david_vs_saul/jonathan_and_david/1s20_42a.html

    1 Samuel 20:42

    Jonathan said to David, ‘Go in peace, for we have sworn in the name of Yahweh that Yahweh will bond you and me and your descendants and my descendants forever.’

    Plus preceding verses and the stuff you’ve ignored on another earlier thread because you are too chickenshit and bigoted and wrong to answer shithead. Oh and gee, I on’t think you’ve actually answered my earlier to challenge to you on another thread or three either have you, you cowardly homophobic bigot? (Scrapes DukeDogShit off shoe.)

  • theDukedog7 .

    “you are too chickenshit and bigoted and wrong to answer shithead.., you cowardly homophobic bigot? (Scrapes DukeDogShit off shoe.)”

    Why such hate?

  • StevoR

    @ ^ Dogshit : Will ask you the same question.

    You never read your own comments and thought how they look then eh?

    Also ain’t it the truth?

  • StevoR

    Oh and my questions and challenge to you still go unanswered don’t they eh? I noticed.

    Also your failure to answer Dingojack before too.

    You are a coward, you are a hateful homophobe and you are horribly wrong – and unChristian into the bargain what’s more.

  • mojave66

    DukeDog7: Being gay is not “evil”. Thinking something is “evil” with no evidence doesn’t make it “evil.” What does make him a hypocrite is that he probably preached that homosexuality is “evil” and hurt a lot of people who deserve the truth, that homosexuality is not objectively evil. Even his parishioners deserve the chance to figure out what’s better– to be true to oneself, to seek out the kind of love and companionship that fits you, or sacrifice your happiness to arbitrary religious principles that make very little sense in the modern world.

  • dingojack

    Lil’ DookieDawg* — The burning leaden cloak is reserved for this guy because:

    he claimed that having gay sex is evil, sinful, and wrong for others to engage in

    while he was simultaneously indulging in the very thing he condemned in others himself.

    Pretty much textbook, I’d say.

    Dingo

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    * TM teele

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    That’s not hypocrisy, any more than a reformed alcoholic who spends his time telling people about the dangers of alcoholism but who backslides himself and drinks is a hypocrite.

    First, comparing one’s sexual orientation to addiction is stupid, dishonest and hateful. Excuse me while I state the obvious: a) addiction is not at all comparable to sexual taste or orientation — they’re nowhere near the same thing; and b) addiction is HARMFUL, in ways that one’s sexual orientation or tastes are not.

    And second, “Don’t drink or do drugs” is a valid message, whether or not this or that messenger consistently practices it. This pastor’s anti-gay bigotry is not at all valid, it’s bigoted, backward, hateful, and based on nothing but a dishonest interpretation of an out-of-date religious doctrine; and it does nothing but cause harm to innocent people.

    And yes, FWIW, it is indeed hypocritical to be gay, and know you’re gay, and spout hateful stupid bullshit about gay people and gayness.

    If this Dukedog7 guy is indeed Dr. Egnor, as I’ve heard others say, then he’s being even more sleazy and dishonest now than he was when talking about evolution.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Why such hate?

    If you can’t take it, don’t earn it, you hypocritical crybaby.

  • theDukedog7 .

    Sometimes people do things that they know are wrong. That’s the human condition. That doesn’t make a man a hypocrite.

    Being a hypocrite is when you berate another man for not living up to his own standards, but exempt yourself from such judgement.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    So how, EXACTLY, is having a consensual sexual relationship with someone of the same sex wrong? We all know why drug abuse and theft are wrong, but you Bible-thumpers never seem able to tell us why gayness is wrong.

    Being a hypocrite is when you berate another man for not living up to his own standards, but exempt yourself from such judgement.

    We “exempt ourselves” from right-wing Christian standards because a) we never accepted them as valid or useful in the first place, and b) the standards themselves are utter nonsense, and cause harm when applied to others in the real world. There’s nothing at all “hypocritical” about mocking a right-wing Christian for spouting asinine rules and then not following them himself. Beside the point, maybe — those rules are crap whether or not he consistently obeys them — but not hypocritical.

  • dingojack

    Being a hypocrite is when you lecture others on how they must behave, while completely ignoring your own prescriptions when it comes to your own behaviour.

    For example – telling people being gay is evil, and that your god is going to burn you for ever if you’re gay, and that nobody who is believes in your god should have anything (even remotely) to do with, nor do even that which you do for those you perceive not to be gay, for gay people (like bake a wedding cake as an example). Because GAYS ARE EVIL, SINFUL & THEY’RE PAEDOPHILES (even though, of course, a majority of paedophiles are catholic priests, I mean, heterosexuals) and so on.

    While at the same time trawling or trolling a popular application for finding gay sex, for [gasp] gay sex, despite publically saying the kind of nonsense as outlined in the para above.

    That sounds pretty much the dictionary definition to me.

    Dingo

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    Or to be more familiarly biblical: he was judgemental toward others, so he opened himself up to judgement by others

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    …he claimed that having gay sex is evil, sinful, and wrong for others to engage in – while he was simultaneously indulging in the very thing he condemned in others himself.

    I think, in the minds of people like Egnor, that’s not really hypocritical if the gay-bashing gay person hates himself the whole time for being who he is. Which only adds yet another layer of moral sickness to that massive cake of bigotry and raw sewage he calls a religious doctrine.

  • theDukedog7 .

    It’s tough to live by the standards we set for ourselves. No one does. That does not make us all hypocrites.

    The guy believed that gay sex was morally wrong, but he had temptations that he gave in to. Substitute any one of a million things for “gay sex”, and it’s the story of each of us.

    Why celebrate this man’s failing? Show some sympathy.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    This moron supported the sort of bigotry that is known to result in violence against innocent people. Why should we have any sympathy for him? Did he show any sympathy for the people he demonized?

    If you say something stupid, dishonest, or hateful, then you should be held accountable. It’s long past time for Christian authoritarians to be called out for their vile words and actions. They’ve been avoiding accountability for too long.

  • theDukedog7 .

    @Hating Bee:

    [This moron supported the sort of bigotry that is known to result in violence against innocent people.]

    More than 400,000 gays have died of AIDS since 1981. Every gay person got the virus from another gay person, and promiscuity and massive irresponsibility were epidemic (and to a real extent remain epidemic) in the gay community.

    No one has committed violence against gays like gays have committed violence against gays.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    So AIDS justifies all of the hate and violence that bigots have inflicted on gays all over the planet?

    No one has committed violence against gays like gays have committed violence against gays.

    Does your kill-ratio account for all the gays (alleged or real) who have been murdered in Iran, Russia, Africa, and elsewhere in the Muslim world? Does it include all the non-lethal suffering and oppression inflicted on gays?

    And no, you lying moron, not all HIV came from gay people. You’ve had more than THIRTY YEARS to read up on how HIV is transmitted, and you’re still in the dark — which once again proves what a stupid uncaring clueless bigot you are.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Oh, and BTW, one reason HIV killed so many gay people, is that gay-bashers like yourself had elected a Republican government that didn’t care enough to respond to the epidemic as vigorously as they could have. Don’t even think of pretending that’s entirely the gays’ fault.

  • theDukedog7 .

    @42 Raging Bug:

    Gays are horribly oppressed in the Muslim world, although it’s doubtful that Muslims kill anywhere near as many gays as gays do in the West.

    In the US, it’s a hard sell to invoke gay oppression. Gays have higher incomes than Breeders, and have higher educational attainment. Oh… the oppression…

    Spare me. If you want to make a dent in violence against gays, chastity is a great place to start.

  • theDukedog7 .

    @43:

    It’s Reagan’s fault. He forced gays to have massive serial anonymous sex.

    None of it is ever gays’ fault.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Gays have higher incomes than Breeders, and have higher educational attainment. Oh… the oppression…

    There’s black people who are smarter and more successful than you and your bigoted loser friends too. That’s not saying much, of course, and it sure as Hell doesn’t mean there’s no racism.

    “Those people have it better than we do!” has, on more than one occasion, been used both to deny and to justify bigotry against a minority. You’re not fooling anyone, Dr. Egnor; you’re just a garden-variety resentful bigoted moron, with a shiny new-looking set of talking-points spoon-fed to you by the libertarians.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    If you want to make a dent in violence against gays, chastity is a great place to start.

    News flash: gay people get beaten up, humiliated, hounded, marginalized and sometimes even murdered, before they get to have sex with anyone.

  • dingojack

    Lil’ DookieDawg™ (#45) – Contrast Ray-guns approach and that of Australia’s Government to the same crisis.

    Which had a lower rate of infection and transmission? Why would that be?

    Dingo

    ———

    OBTW –

    + let’s say the population of the US between 1981 & 2015 is steady at 2742M (the average population between the two end points, and close to the actual population at the midpoint between those years, 1998),

    + assume those 400000 deaths are spread along the 34 years evenly

    then that’s a rate of mortality of (400000/(2015-1981))/274.2M = 4.291e-5

    OR 4.291deaths from HIV/AIDS per hundred thousand people per annum (the overall morality rate from all causes is around 864 deaths per 100000 per annum (1981-1998). The death rate from unspecified urinary tract infections (where the site of the infection wasn’t specified) is about 4.2 per 100000, acute myocardial infarction is about 92.8 per 100000).

    Just to put it into perspective.

  • Scr… Archivist

    robnyny @14 and @17, ChristineRose @15, grumpyoldfart @16:

    Thanks for that information. I had no idea the term went back that far.

    Obviously, I am not a gay fisherman.

  • dingojack

    Scr… Archivist – “Obviously, I am not a gay fisherman.”

    Clearly not. Mark 1:17 (KJV).

    😉 Dingo