Anderson: Contraception Led to Same-Sex Marriage

Ryan Anderson, the same-sex marriage opponent that is treated like a fresh young voice on the subject even though he makes the same tired arguments everyone else does, told an interviewer from a Catholic podcast that he blames gay marriage ultimately on contraception.

Patrick Coffin, who hosts a podcast for the group Catholic Answers, asked Anderson whether “the widespread acceptance of contraception” was “the first domino to fall” on the way to marriage equality.

“Yes, the sexual revolution explains quite a bit of this,” Anderson agreed. “We only arrived at the place where we are today, in 2015, at the cusp of a potential Supreme Court case redefining marriage everywhere because we’ve had a culture since the ‘60s, since the sexual revolution, that has largely made a mess of human sexuality, the family and marriage. It’s only after a generation or two of premarital sex, non-marital childbearing, the hookup culture, pornography, no-fault divorce, that you’d then be at the point of saying, ‘Oh, yeah, marriage has nothing to do with men and women.’”

This is not a new argument from him. He made it as far back as 2006:

As people continue to see the bad results of the sexual revolution, they are likely to reevaluate their current attitudes toward sex, and while doing so they may find that the logic of human sexuality leads right back to traditional Christian orthodoxy. Might the continued push for same-sex “marriage” and the normalization of homosexuality prove to be the tipping point, the catalyst for a widespread reexamination of Christian sexual practice? Might these issues push the envelope so far that, as faithful Christians reflect on the reasons why they must conclude that homosexual acts fail to embody the truth of human sexuality, they come to realize that these same reasons entail the immorality of contraception? (For the moment I’ll assume that anyone entertaining this line of thought has already concluded that premarital and extramarital sex likewise fail to embody the truth of human sexuality.)

I think this reveals the real motivation behind opposition to marriage equality. It isn’t just about “ewwww, gay people.” It’s about controlling how other people have sex. It’s about imposing their particular Christian beliefs about sexuality on everyone else. Because it isn’t enough for them to not use contraception or to not be gay, everyone else must be brought under their boot and forbidden from doing it too.

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  • John Pieret

    Some people just don’t recognize when the ship has sailed or when the genii ain’t about to let you stuff him back in the bottle.

  • frankgturner

    @ John Pieter

    I like your analogies but I think I have a better one.

    .

    Many fail to see that their loss of revenue in the free market of ideas is because you are looking customers who are buying a better product. You might be able to get customers back, but you need to improve the product. .

    In reality though I think that they will always have customers. People are gullible and can be convinced that the product does not suck.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … human sexuality, the family and marriage. … the logic of human sexuality … the truth of human sexuality… to embody the truth of human sexuality.

    Dude has come down with a bad case of persistent essentialism. Dunno of any FDA-approved medicines for that condition, but it might help for him to abstain from the beads for at least 60 days.

  • eric

    I continue to scratch my head how anyone could see no-fault divorce as a bad thing. You’ve got a contract. Both parties want it rendered null and void. You’re going to keep enforcing it…why? What social justification is there for requiring both parties in a contract to adhere to it after they both agree neither of them want to? Gee, sorry Patrick, I know both you AND the bank want to refinance your mortgage, but nope, we’re not going to let you two do it. Whatever loan agreement you made in 2002, let no man put asunder.

  • themadtapper

    Funny thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. He’s just wrong about it being a bad thing. The sexual revolution and the advent of the pill helped to break down the idea that sex had to be about making babies. From there you do in fact get a lot of inevitable shifts in attitude and practice. Married couples have more control over when and how many kids they have (if any). So now marriage stops being about kids and instead is about the couple. And if marriage is about the couple and not kids, who’s to say a non-procreative couple can’t get married? Ed is also right that ultimately people like Anderson are concerned not about “attacks” on marriage, but about changing attitudes toward sexuality and more importantly the church’s (increasing lack of) control over it.

  • Bruce

    They say condoms and the pill should be banned again, even for married couples with a doctors prescription. And ban Ben Franklin’s lightning rods. All these defy god’s will. And what’s all this about living in houses, instead of in caves or out in the open where God can send the rain upon you? You mustn’t defy divine will. And you’re behind on sacrificing your first-borns.

    There’s no limit to how regressive they can get.

  • Bruce

    From the headline, I first thought: Why would Anderson Cooper say such things?

  • dobby

    “redefining marriage everywhere”. That’s another trick they keep trying to pull. There was already marriage equality in several states before the DOMA decision. The Supreme Court is not going to change that.

    And don’t even get me started about “redefining”. Words are redefined all the time.

  • raven

    Not at all surprising, Ryan Anderson is just wrong.

    The loss of Catholic power to kill whoever they want by burning them alive on stacks of firewood led to same sex marriage.

    Without the abiity to torture and kill at will, their mythology has been retreating for centuries.

    Their all powerful god does nothing and requires humans to do anything.

  • Childermass

    So the acceptance of contraception might led the way. I’ll actually buy it. But I would say the fight for racial equality, the fight for sexual equality, and the fight against antisemitism are far more significant factors. Indeed any past fight for people to live their lives as they see fit (so long as they don’t harm others in the process) helped lead the way.

  • hunter

    Childermass: No, no, no! You don’t understand! What’s this equality under the law nonsense? It’s about sex. It’s always about sex.

    Didn’t you know that according the the One True Church, people were meant to be breeding stock?

  • colnago80

    So what does Anderson propose? Ban the use of contraceptives?, Ban IVF. Make sex outside of marriage illegal?

  • cjcolucci

    the madtapper anticipated most of what I had planned to say.

  • theguy

    “we’ve had a culture since the ‘60s, since the sexual revolution, that has largely made a mess of human sexuality, the family and marriage.”

    And here I thought the Catholic Church made a mess of things, allowing child rape to continue for decades by covering it up. Notice, that for all this nonsense about the “truth of human sexuality” he doesn’t discuss consent. Homophobes usually don’t, because to them, sex isn’t about what the partners want, it’s about God commanding people to have lots of children.

    Our “culture” since the 1960’s has actually gained an improved understanding of human sexuality and the diverse types of families that can exist. If you want a culture that’s messed up on issues of sexuality, look at the MRA/PUA assholes. (Or don’t, if you just had lunch)

  • marcus

    themadtapper @ 5 & cjcolucci @13 Me too.

    As an aspect of the culture war they are definitely related issues.

  • jonathangray

    Comrades, it has been fifty years since the glorious Sexual Revolution and much progress has been made in that time. Taboo after taboo has fallen. But we must not be complacent, comrades. Much remains to be done. Sinister counter-revolutionary notions of ‘guilt’ and ‘shame’ continue to impede the onward march of human bliss. Our next Five Year Plan of compulsory cultural re-education will root out the fascist fifth columnists and usher in the radiant New Dawn. Forward comrades! Forward as one!

  • Al Dente

    jonathangray @16

    I realize you’re trying to be sarcastic or ironic or something else ending in -ic, but your rant is actually true. Your church is losing the battle to control sexuality. Western Catholic women have the same number of children as non-Catholic women. This means Catholic women have decided that the celibate male bachelors running your church are talking out of their asses when they pretend the magic sky pixie doesn’t like condoms or the pill. You and the bishops will have to acknowledge reality. Since you’re godbotherers you already have a handicap regarding reality recognition.

  • marcus

    Stupid Asshole @ 16 The only actions worthy of the emotions “guilt” and “shame” are actions that seek to intentionally harm, oppress, or demean another human being.

    A person living a life that makes them happy and brings them love, without harming any other human being, doesn’t qualify.

    If the Jesus of the Bible actually existed, he would find you just as despicable as we do.

  • pixiedust

    As I recall, a lot of freshly married couples in the 1950s had prematurely born babies during the first 6 months or so of marriage.

    A friend who grew up in the Bible Belt tells me that in her small town, these were known as “marriages made in Big Hill” because Big Hill was the making out place, if you had a car.

  • marcus

    Dumbass Demagogue:

    Might the continued push for same-sex “marriage” and the normalization of homosexuality prove to be the tipping point, the catalyst for a widespread reexamination of Christian sexual practice? Might these issues push the envelope so far that, as faithful Christians reflect on the reasons why they must conclude that homosexual acts fail to embody the truth of human sexuality, they come to realize that these same reasons entail the immorality of contraception? (For the moment I’ll assume that anyone entertaining this line of thought has already concluded that premarital and extramarital sex likewise fail to embody the truth of human sexuality.)

    Ummmm….. Not so much. Next silly ass question?

  • njosprey

    @ 19

    Funny thing, if you look at the marriage dates and birth dates of the Puritans, you will find a similar phenomena. Must have been exposure to the new environment of the New World.

  • Randomfactor

    You might be able to get customers back, but you need to improve the product. .

    Or you could just get the government to make your competition illegal.

  • frankgturner

    @ RandomFactor #22

    That could work but it could also backfire. A lot of people don’t like to be told what to do and doing that could spark rebellion (perhaps in secret).

    .

    The internet has become such an available free market for ideas that you have to restrict access and that is tough (though some countries under Sharia law are trying that).

    .

    That does definitely seem to be what evangelists are trying to do though, infiltrate the government (and ironically, trying to get Old Testament rule which is nearly the same as Sharia law despite the claim of not wanting to be under Sharia law).

  • Nick Gotts

    “redefining marriage everywhere”. That’s another trick they keep trying to pull. There was already marriage equality in several states before the DOMA decision. The Supreme Court is not going to change that. – dobby@9

    There’s also the fact that (and I know this will come as a shock to many Americans, particularly but not only conservatives) the USA isn’t “everywhere”.

  • Nick Gotts

    Amusing that jonathangray is so completely unable to see the similarites between the Bolshevik Church and the Catholic Party.

  • frankgturner

    @ Nick Gotts #24

    Be careful, if you tell some conservative USA citizens that the USA is not everywhere you may be targeted since you are apparently informed this by Satan in their eyes. Of course they probably have some bullshit apologetic about why the USA is everywhere.

    .

    Maybe go on one of their message boards and propose that and see what they say?

  • jonathangray

    Nick Gotts:

    Amusing that jonathangray is so completely unable to see the similarites between the Bolshevik Church and the Catholic Party.

    “Thus is the devil ever God’s ape.” (Luther?)