Feder: Contraception Will Cause Human Extinction

Don Feder of the World Congress of Families, a man so zealous to control everyone else’s sex life that it’s not unreasonable to call him a sexual totalitarian, told a recent conference in Belgrade that contraception is going to be the cause of human extinction.

At a World Congress of Families regional event in Belgrade in April, the group’s communications director, Don Feder, declared that a worldwide effort is needed to overthrow the “sexual revolution,” including the widespread acceptance of contraception, which he said leads to “death” by “preventing life from happening” and will ultimately lead to the “extinction” of humanity…

Feder told the gathering in Belgrade that the world is at risk from widespread contraception use “financed by governments, corporations or international agencies.”

“Many species have become extinct,” he said. “Our species may be the first to finance its own extinction.”

“We won’t find our way out of the forest of demographic winter until the sexual revolution is overthrown,” he continued, “its premises rejected, its prophets exposed, its dogma debunked. Ladies and gentlemen, ultimately the sexual revolution is about death: death through abortion, death through contraception (preventing life from happening), death through sexually transmitted diseases, death through pornography, death through promiscuity, all of this in place of monogamous marriage and childbearing.”

In case he hadn’t noticed, we now have more than 7 billion — billion — people on the planet, despite the use of contraception being widespread in the modern world. Our extinction is far more likely to be caused by the environmental destruction caused by overpopulation than by no longer having children, for crying out loud.

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  • Mr Ed

    Feder told the gathering in Belgrade that the world is at risk from widespread contraception use “financed by governments, corporations or international agencies.”

    The only barrier method Feder supports are tinfoil hats.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    Contraception will destroy humanity, says an American. A man from a country where you can become a minor celebrity because you and your spouse pumped out 18 kids. Where some women have trouble getting birth control prescriptions filled because the local pharmacist disapproves. Of course one would expect this from the same idiot who claims Barack Obama’s presidency id worse than the Holocaust.

  • colnago80

    Apparently, Brayton hasn’t been reading the comments of Egnorance who argues that overpopulation is a big lie, just like he claims that AGW and evolution are big lies.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/TabbyLavalamp Tabby Lavalamp

    Colnago80, has he used the old “All the people alive today can fit in Texas” canard that ignores how much land and resources it takes to keep each of those people alive and healthy?

    As for Feder, he says that like the idea of human extinction is an indisputably bad thing. The non-human life on this planet may disagree.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … ultimately the sexual revolution is about death: death through abortion, death through contraception (preventing life from happening), death through sexually transmitted diseases, death through pornography, death through promiscuity…

    He left out Teh Ghey™!!1! (Don, are you feeling okay?)

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “contraception, which he said leads to “death” by “preventing life from happening” and will ultimately lead to the “extinction” of humanity…”

    Perhaps he is just putting it on/in backwards?

  • Artor

    Who cares what a tennis player thinks about contraception? Oh, wait. That’s Feder, not Federer. Nevermind.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    death through pornography, death through promiscuity…

    Not bad ways to go.

  • Synfandel

    I read “Don Felder” and got Hotel California in my head. Could be worse.

  • raven

    Feder’s solution to his clearly nonexistent but imaginary problem is the usual,…female slavery and forced child birth.

    If you can’t enslave women, why bother being a regressive Catholic?

  • raven

    FWIW, humans have always practiced family planning. Nothing new about it all.

    In the middle ages, many men and women ended up in monasteries and convents, taken out of the breeder pool as celibates.

    Eligible batchelors owned a plot of land, leaving many younger sons out. People might marry late in life, late not being that old because lifespans were short. There are a lot of nonprocreative sexual activities that you can look up yourself on Google or find in some Catholic list of deadly sins.

    For accidental births, people sometimes just abandoned their babies. This was common enough that we have an English word for them, Foundlings. It happened up until recently in Europe and still happens occasionally today in the USA, where hospitals have special places for people to leave…foundlings.

    Humans usually adjust their breeding to the carrying capacity of their environment. That is one reason why Malthusian Disasters are rare.

    Feder is an immoral evil kook, advocating for a past that never was.

  • D. C. Sessions

    I read “Don Felder” and got Hotel California in my head. Could be worse.

    In context, I’m not so sure about “but you can never leave.”

  • raven

    Q. So, what is the sustainable carrying capacity of the earth?

    A. No one knows.

    1. It changes with our changing technology. And our technology advances very quickly. It’s a moving target.

    2. We probably won’t know until we are on the downhill side of Peak People. Hopefully without billions dying in an Overshoot and DIeoff, not uncommon in wild populations of anything.

    3. But right now, the earth is clearly showing signs of stress due to 7.2 billion people. Most fish stocks in the sea have been massacred. The Pacific garbage patch of plastic. Global warming, CO2 rise. Etc..

    Scientists have been warning for decades that fresh water was finite and we were running out. Well guess what? We are near Peak Fresh Water.

    A lot of the world’s largest rivers never reach the sea. The US Colorado, Rio Grande, Nile, Murray-Darling, etc. In California, seems like every drop of rain has multiple claimants. But IMO, there isn’t really a water shortage in the state. There are 15 million too many people.

  • theDukedog7 .

    “Our extinction is far more likely to be caused by the environmental destruction caused by overpopulation”

    After two centuries of Malthusian junk science, this shit just won’t die. You preppers have been predicting the Overpopulation Apocalypse (Registered Trademark) since the early 19th century, and the only thing that’s gone extinct is your credibility. “Mass starvation in the United States by 1980, the Struggle to Feed Humanity is Over, we might as well let India starve because we can’t help them anyway, England will disappear by 2000, Paul Ehrlich’s psychotic ravings, yada, yada”. IOverpopulation Hysteria is a form of mental illness, but much more lethal than other psychoses.

    Feder is half-right. Contraception is a human insecticide. It will not cause human extinction, except extinction of that subset of humanity that contracepts. That means a lot less Brights and a lot more fundies–the Duggars will win in the end. There’s an upside to the pill.

  • Alverant

    I have to wonder if he defines “human” as “white conservative christians”.

    Oh and dog, we’re already seeing the effects of overpopulation in places like China and India and in the decimation of fish populations.

  • dingojack

    ‘human insecticide’? I thought you liked a nice big glass of DDT for breakfast?

    @@ Dingo

  • theDukedog7 .

    @15:

    “we’re already seeing the effects of overpopulation in places like China and India”

    Actually what we’re seeing are the effects of totalitarian policies imposed by overpopulation junk science. India had a mass sterilization program in the 1970’s that sterilized millions of people against their will–it remains a crime against humanity. And of course the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust is the China One Child Policy, in which a totalitarian government has imposed overpopulation junk science on a billion people. Several hundred million children have been aborted or infanticided. There are 100 million fewer girls than boys in India and China–the largest femicide in history–directly as a result of “overpopulation policies”.

    The overpopulation of men relative to women has caused a hundred million “bare branches”–the Chinese term for the men who have no prospect of marriage or family because of femicide from overpopulation policies. The rape epidemic in India is clearly related to the large male surplus.

    Overpopulation junk science is a crime against humanity, on a par with the Nazi atrocities. As I said, you have blood on your hands.

  • marcus

    Dumbass Dog

    PS You’re an idiot.

  • llewelly

    theDukedog7:

    That means a lot less Brights and a lot more fundies–the Duggars will win in the end. There’s an upside to the pill.

    I am sure those raised in quiverfull families will appreciate you assuming they are unable to learn.

  • dingojack

    Lil’ DookieDawg – citations required.

    @@ Dingo

  • David Marjanović

    Hey, Mr. Egnor, my grandmother was on contraception and had 6 carefully planned children; her first daughter, my mother, was also on contraception and had 4 carefully planned children. Contraception allows women to have children exactly when they want and when they are (financially etc.) able to support them.

    And yet, my grandmother has a total of 7 grandchildren so far: 3 of her children have simply remained single. You act as if contraception were the only factor that influences the birth rate!

    Oh, and, in case you’re wondering, both my mother and my grandmother are committed Catholics who go to church practically every Sunday and every holiday.

  • David Marjanović

    the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust is the China One Child Policy

    No – that would be the Great Leap Forward, followed by the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and then probably by the war that is the Congo.

  • scienceavenger

    But I thought the sexual revolution was going to create more unwanted babies because contraception fails so much? I wish these kooks would coordinate their kookiness better.

    And death through pornography, death through promiscuity? How is that supposed to work?

  • dingojack

    OBTW – you know who else really, really liked big families…?

    Dingo

    ———

    Must have been because he was such a good Catholic boy. (Even Pius XII, loved him).

  • dingojack

    Then there was this little crime. Didn’t that work out well?

    Dingo

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #24

    To be fair here, Hister like large families because he needed more cannon fodder to support his aggressive plans.

  • marcus

    scienceavenger @ 23

    And death through pornography, death through promiscuity? How is that supposed to work?

    The fact that I am still alive at almost 60 (!) gives the lie that bullshit.

  • dingojack

    SLC – Who?!?

    Dingo

  • scienceavenger

    SLC – Who?!?

    Don’t start that shit again.

  • David Marjanović

    OBTW – you know who else really, really liked big families…?

    Máo did, too, before he changed his mind; in the 1950s he thought that was the only way any Chinese would survive the nookular war that was coming any minute now.

  • dingojack

    David Marjanović – Really?

    Dingo

  • peggin

    scienceavenger @23

    And death through pornography, death through promiscuity? How is that supposed to work?

    I’m guessing that it’s all part of the same all-or-nothing mindset that convinces these people that if anyone is legally allowed to be homosexual, then everyone will be having gay sex, nobody will be having straight sex, and no more babies will ever be born. They also apparently believe that that if contraceptive use is acceptable, then everyone will use them every time they have sex for their entire lives and, again, it’s the end of babies being born and the human race will die out.

    Well, I’m guessing it’s the same all-or-nothing kind of mindset when it comes to pornography and promiscuity. These idiots think that if people are allowed to view pornography, then that’s all they’ll do, all day, every day, to the point that they forget to eat and starve to death. Same goes for promiscuity — if it’s okay for people to have sex without feeling guilty about it, then they’ll do, all day every day, is sleep around, again to the point that they forget to eat and starve to death.

  • moarscienceplz

    raven @#13

    A lot of the world’s largest rivers never reach the sea. The US Colorado, …

    This has recently been reversed.

  • dingojack

    moarscienceplz – (This isn’t a criticism of you, rather the idiots who write for National Geographic)

    “… a river’s destiny is to reach the sea…”

    All of them NG? Every single one?

    https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110219000447AAiDVbT

    @@ Dingo

  • Callinectes

    Even if his claims were true, I fail to see the problem. Voluntary extinction, while highly atypical, is not a tragedy.

  • marcus

    moarscienceplz @33 “Reversed” may be a bit of an overstatement, but it is something.

  • dingojack

    Similar efforts were being put into place for the Murray-Darling, despite the (current) government trying stymie it on behalf of the farmers (or, more accurately, irrigators).

    Dingo

  • theguy

    Skimmed the comments – apparently ShitheadDog thinks that contraception use means that the Duggars will outbreed us, and therefore “There’s an upside to the pill.”

    You saying you want more right-wing child molesters, DerpDog?

    Feder, of course, is stupid. Some people use contraception because they don’t want to ever have children. Some people plan to have children, but when they’re older and wealthier.

  • raven

    https://savenaturesavelife. wordpress. com/2010/03/27/major-rivers-that-do-not-reach-the-sea-anymore-share/

    Major rivers that do not reach the sea anymore March 27, 2010

    Posted by taniasaleem in Environment.

    trackback

    Major rivers that run dry and do not reach the sea anymore during the dry season include the (1) Colorado in the southwestern United States, (2) Rio Grande along the border between Texas and Mexico, (3) Yellow River in the Northern China, (4) Nile in the middle east (5) Ganges and Indus in South Asia, and (6) Amu Darya and Syr Darya in five countries that were part of the Soviet Union.

    By Tania Saleem

    Not a complete list. The Aral sea has dried up.

    The fact that humans made major efforts and connected the Colorado to the Sea of Cortez for a few weeks once in 20 years hardly changes the point.

    Once you have used every drop of water in a major river basin, what’s left?

  • raven

    Skimmed the comments – apparently ShitheadDog thinks that contraception use means that the Duggars will outbreed us, and therefore “There’s an upside to the pill.”

    Not really.

    Chances are they are making…more atheists.

    Being a member of a toxic breeder cult isn’t hereditary. People leave in order of best and brightest. Ask the Catholics. They’ve recently lost 20 million members and 10% of the US population are….ex-Catholics.

    Biological colonialism if often tried and seldom works. After a generation or two, the kids decide it’s silly and pointless and they have better things to do with their time and money. Most fundie xian leaders have small families. They don’t want to overbreed, they want their clueless followers to do it.

  • Quantum Mechanic

    SLC:

    Apparently, Brayton hasn’t been reading the comments of Egnorance

    Well, can you really blame Ed?

  • eric

    And death through pornography, death through promiscuity? How is that supposed to work?

    If you’re taking time out to eat and drink, U R doin in rong.

  • eric

    Biological colonialism if often tried and seldom works.

    Well in this case they are combining it with homeschooling to prevent any possible outside ‘contamination.’ However I agree with you, that might make them slightly more successful at it on a local scale, but on a national scale across decades, fundies having a higher average number of kids will not result in an increase in the % of the population which is fundie.

  • raven

    Well in this case they are combining it with homeschooling to prevent any possible outside ‘contamination.

    1. There are bigger problems with biological imperialism than that.

    2. The average cost of a middle class kid in the USA, 0 to 18, is $250,000. A lot.

    3. Sure you can cut a lot of corners. No medical care, no higher education. But you are going to get what you pay for. Uneducated kids in possibly poor health, not well prepared to function in a very complex civilization.

    I’m not too worry about being ruled by near illiterate fundie xians. Most likely their kids will end up mowing my lawn and doing my laundry.

  • mithrandir

    Did y’all catch the “demographic winter” reference? He’s not talking about the extinction of all humanity, just the extinction of the real humans.

  • colnago80

    Unfortunately, Egnorance is right about China, although his figure of 100 million excess males is rather high (50 million is more like it). That’s because most of the abortions performed were on female fetuses. This is a problem as, as Egnorance points out, this means that some 50 million males will not be able to get married. This will inevitably lead to instability.

  • daved

    This is a problem as, as Egnorance points out, this means that some 50 million males will not be able to get married. This will inevitably lead to instability.

    I believe India is finding itself in the same cul-de-sac.

  • peggin

    Strange how nobody in those countries seems to be suggesting letting women have multiple husbands as a solution to the problem.

  • colnago80

    Re peggin @ #48

    In principal, this would alleviate the problem. However, in most cultures, polyandry is more frowned upon then polygamy.

  • whheydt

    Re; theDukeDog7 @ #14…

    Go read <i.The Marching Morons. I don’t think the world you envision is one that you’ll like very much.

  • thebookofdave

    Our species may be the first to finance its own extinction.

    We have trained for the event by bankrolling the extinction of thousands of other species. I think we’re up to the challenge, and can achieve it without contraception.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    China and India have more boys than girls in unnatural amounts, but that is not a result of governmental decree. In China especially, with their one child policy, people (especially country people) will often leave a girl baby in the wilderness to die, and never get it recorded in official records. If the next baby is male, they keep it. India is more likely to see middle class folks doing this: if prenatal testing shows an embryo is female, they will abort.

    .

    These are not liberal, scientific people making these decisions. These are folks who, for good reasons and bad, decide that they would be better off having a single son (or a few sons, in India). Traditional values that no longer apply. My wife and I agree that if we were in a one child policy country, we’d prefer a girl child. She’d most likely marry up, and our future son-in-law would be prosperous. It’s not the rich men in China who are having trouble finding a wife. In both countries, by the way, it is becoming more common for young middle class men to acquire brides from Burma, Thailand, and other poorer countries.

    .

    If DukeDog were sane and informed, he’d realize that rape behavior is not a result of liberal politics, nor scientific literacy. I remember being told in my Youth Group morals class in my Southern Baptist church by the preacher’s son-in-law “I’d go as far as a girl would let me [on a date] but I wouldn’t marry her afterwards, because she wouldn’t be pure.” I left and never returned to the Youth Group. I was not yet a full-fledged feminist, but that was so obviously unjust and evil that I couldn’t stand it. Fundamentalists can be pigs, and they’ll be righteous and proud of it while doing so.

  • Nick Gotts

    Sure you can cut a lot of corners. No medical care, no higher education. But you are going to get what you pay for. Uneducated kids in possibly poor health, not well prepared to function in a very complex civilization. – raven

    Sure, but as far as Egnorance and his church are concerned, that’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

    China’s one-child policy and Indian forced sterilization are/were certainly massive human rights abuses, but humane, non-coercive policies to reduce birth rate were most certainly needed, and China’s ability to raise hundreds of millions out of poverty depended crucially on doing so – both to make it possible to provide schooling and health care to children, and to cut the dependency ratio and thus get women into the labour force. It’s noticeable that neither country has had a famine during the period since the birth rate began to fall; it’s unlikely this is a coincidence, although of course other factors were also involved.

    It’s true that right-wingers such as Malthus and Ehrlich (who is a member of FAIR) have made alarmist predictions about over-population, but I wonder if Egnorance and his fellow egnoramuses admit to themselves that there is any limit at all to the number of people the planet can support. It’s certainly a question I’ve yet to get an answer to from any of them. Currently, although the rate of population growth has roughly halved since its 1960s peak, the absolute growth is still around 80 million a year. As far as extinction by failure to have babies is concerned, I think we can relax for now.

  • colnago80

    Re Kermin Sansoo @ #52

    It’s an indirect result of the 1 child per couple policy because most abortions are performed on female fetuses.

    Re Nick Gotts # @53

    There is no doubt that Ehrlich has overstated the problem of population. However, the effect on the environment due to the rapid industrialization of China and India is evidence that their current populations are not sustainable. China has surpassed the US as the biggest contributor to CO(2), due to the rapid construction of coal burning power plants and India is catching up fast. What morons like Egnorance and Julian Simon fail to tell their deluded followers is that there is no way that China and India together can raise the standard of living of their populations to Western European standards. But I suppose that Egnorance would tell those populations not to worry, something will turn up.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    I’m a little late bu…Feder said this in THIS Belgrade:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade ?

    I mean, I think that the Serbs ethnic cleansing was a far better curb on population than any combination of contraceptives and abortifactants could ever be.