Richard Land Bigotsplains Why Acceptance of Gay Rights is Growing

The Christian right is perplexed. Why is the American public, and the world for that matter, becoming far more accepting of the humanity and equal rights of gay people when they’ve tried so hard to demonize them? Richard Land says it’s because The Gay has attacked “cultural icons.”

Land blamed such trends on “a broad cultural assault on biblical values through the media, through entertainment [and] through MTV,” specifically calling out the “gay and lesbian, bisexual community” for its “sustained campaign” to “propagandize” Americans.

“These people have gone after the icons in our culture,” Land said. “They’ve gone after the military, they’ve gone after the Boy Scouts, they’ve gone after Disney, and you’re seeing a gradual waning of the influence of the worldview that made America what it is, the Judeo-Christian worldview.”

This would be a great explanation if only there was such a thing as the “Judeo-Christian worldview.” I find it especially amusing when such a view is attributed to the Founding Fathers, many of whom would certainly be considered anti-Semitic. The Christian preachers of that day often railed against the evil Jews. The blood libel of “they killed Christ” was still very commonly believed among Christians in the 18th century.

The real reason why support for LGBT equality is increasing is that those people have come out of the closet. A higher percentage of people now know that they know some gay people. They may work with them and may have worked with them for many years without knowing they were gay. Or they might be a family member. But that increasing visibility and open presence in the lives of far more people is how things change, because it destroys all of those negative stereotypes that people like Richard Land have worked so hard to foist upon gay people. When they realize that they know and like many gay people, it becomes impossible to view them as evil abstractions that hate God and want to destroy families and rape your children. The power of the Christian right’s age-old demonizations of gay people goes away and support for their friends and family members goes up. TL;DR: You lost, Richard. Get over it.

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  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “you’re seeing a gradual waning of the influence of the worldview that made America what it is, the Judeo-Christian worldview”

    Speaking as a Judeo-Christian-American, I can confirm our influence is waning. Oh, how it wanes!! Darn geys! We JCAs hate waning!!

  • grendelsfather

    [and] through MTV /blockquote>

    Is that still a thing? Who knew?

  • dingojack

    theschwa – it never wanes but it pours!

    Dingo

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    PS: Interesting that attacking ‘cultural icons’ such as the (US) military should lead to such a high acceptance of Teh Ghey in places that don’t fetishize their own military, let alone America’s…

  • D. C. Sessions

    The blood libel of “they killed Christ”

    I know Ed doesn’t read this, but still …

    The “blood libel” was not about “killing Christ.” It was that Jews need Christian blood to make matzoh at Passover, so they kill Christian children. Always good for a pogrom, that one.

  • Claudia Sawyer

    Judeo-Christian

    Is there some recommendation as to how often they use that term?

    5% of the time?

  • colnago80

    Re D.C. Sessions @ #4

    What did they use to make matzoh before there were any Christians?

  • llewelly

    Once upon a time, there was a Judeo Christian worldview. Then, Paul had a vision on the road to Damascus. So he took it into his head to convert many non-Jews to Christianity. Non Jews really disliked Leviticus, so Paul attacked it, and then the author of Mark attacked it more. Matthew was the dying wail of the Judeo Christian worldview, and by around 200 AD I guess the new heresies had stomped it flat. A few centuries later, Matthew got incorporated into the bible. Nobody knows why they wanted something that kept alive an older version of the Jesus myth, which they had worked so hard to destroy. Perhaps they loved the violent hate-filled god of the old testament, and saw Matthew as a “bridge” .

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    @6: “What did they use to make matzoh before there were any Christians?”

    Unicorn blood. But those were still much shittier matzohs. Christian Blood (TM) Matzohs are the best! The best, Jerry!

  • dingojack

    #6 – two words: “Dino blood”!

    Dingo

  • scienceavenger

    I’ve never understood what people like Land mean when they use the phrase “gone after”. They make it sound like a hunt. At Disney they threw a big party. That’s “going after”?

    Richard Land: you lost because your arguments suck, plain and simple. Include this one among them.

  • dingojack

    scienceavenger – I’d go further. Not only does the anti-equality crowd have absolutely no valid arguments (beyond “god says” & “it’s totally icky”), they are also completely lousy at successfully articulating bullshit to cover their total lack of valid arguments.

    A double whammy!

    Dingo

  • Artor

    MTV? LOL! The 80’s called, and they want their relevancy back.

  • dingojack

    Artor – I never knew there was MTV in the 1680’s!

    Dingo

  • busterggi

    Don’t worry Mr. Land, the folks at ISIS still hold the same values as you.

  • raven

    you’re seeing a gradual waning of the influence of the worldview that made America what it is, the Judeo-Christian worldview.”

    There is no such thing as the Judeo-Christian worldview.

    There are thousands or millions of Christian worldviews, depending how fine you draw the lines. For one thing, there are 42,000 different xian sects, that don’t agree on much and often hate each other.

    It coud be said that each person has their own worldview, one that changes with time. They aren’t static after all, I used to be a…xian. That is 7.2 billion right there.

  • raven

    Xianity, not being anchored in reality, evolves rapidly in real time.

    This whole anti-gay hate thing is a recent “Judeo-christian” invention.

    1. It isn’t even shared by a lot of xians. Most Mainline Protestants now support SSM. Their worldview has…evolved in a few years since they previously didn’t.

    2. Historically it was a very minor part of xianity. The gay hate campaigns were invented by the fundies maybe 15 years ago.

    In the bible gays total maybe half a page total. The bible spends more time on divorce and taking care of the poor, As Ezekial says, ignoring the poor was the sin of Gomorrah.

    Xianity is orders of magnitude larger than gay hate. Some groups supported slavery for example. Most groups claim to have the roadmap to immortality in heaven. Many groups will tell you how to fight off demons for a nominal price.

    3. If you look at the fundie perversion of xianity today, one gets the idea all they do is get together lie a lot and hate gays. You can call that a religion but I just call it boring and dumb.

    4. The Southern Baptists of which Richard land was an official, have lost members for 6 or 7 years in a row. Hate just isn’t everyone’s idea of how to spend your Sunday morning. And they are going down on their Good Ship SBC Hate. And everyone else will cheer when it sinks.

  • Richard Smith

    @Artor (#12):

    MTV? LOL! The 80’s called, and they want their relevancy back.

    They want their-

    They want their-

    They want their rele-van-cy!

  • blf

    I never knew there was MTV in the 1680’s!

    It was called Black Death back then. It was transmitted to subscribers using rat’s fleas. Cheap but not very reliable. The subscribers frequently died in the middle of a broadcast.

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    I don’t understand how they have the “Judeo” linked with “Christian” to begin with.

    Whenever I question a Christian about some behavior in which he is engaging that is forbidden by the OT, he answers that “Jesus did away with the old law.” (Forget for the moment that Jesus specifically said that is what he did not do).

    So, you have Christians, who don’t follow the OT, which is more than anything a compilation of “God’s laws.” The fundies take the mythology as literal, which I’m not even sure that Jews do.

    Christians don’t follow the old laws, and Jews believe the NT is a bunch of crap, so they really don’t have that much in common, theologically speaking.

    Unless it’s a dog whistle from the fundies saying “We support Israel.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/eo.raptor.3 eoraptor

    fifthdentist @ 19.

    I think it’s an attempt to secure a get-out-of-jail card. If they only scream about xians, they’ll be accused of being anti-Semites, or more importantly, anti-Israel. The fundagelicals really need Israel so somebody’s cow can give birth to a red calf, or some such.

  • Die Anyway

    > ‘The blood libel of “they killed Christ” was still very commonly believed among Christians in the 18th century.’

    Maybe it wasn’t exactly the “blood libel” but where I grew up in rural America in the ’50s, the reason given for hating Jews was that they killed Christ. It wasn’t logical, of course, but more likely just an easy excuse to hate people who were a little different. I still wonder at the southern bible-bangers who hate Jews but support Israel. Cognitive dissonance anyone?

  • raven

    Maybe it wasn’t exactly the “blood libel” but where I grew up in rural America in the ’50s, the reason given for hating Jews was that they killed Christ.

    That was the whole idea, the plan.

    If jesus got 3 years with time off for good behavior, then where would xianity be?

    Jesus could have stopped it at any time. Jesus is god. God can do anything. God could have turned the Sanhedrin and Romans into frogs and that would have been the end of it. It’s quite clear according to the mythology that this all planned out by the omniscient ruler of the universe.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    Satan. The answer is Satan.

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