Erickson Blames Charleston Shootings on…Trans People? WTF?

When Erick Erickson was fired by CNN and signed on as a contributor to Fox News, he somehow managed to make an already vile lineup of contributors even worse. His latest outrage is an absolutely warped attempt to blame the racist murders of nine black people in a Charleston church on trans people. Seriously.

Yet again we have a twenty-something white male loner or semi-loner who got a gun and decided to kill people. In most cases we have found that the mass shooter was mentally disturbed. In this case, it looks more and more than Dylann Roof was just a servant of an evil that says some of those created in the image of God are better than others or that some people are not created in the image of God at all.

As a nation, when these things happen, we never have the conversation about real evil. We also never have the conversation about mental health. For that matter, we don’t have honest conversations about why some kid in Minnesota or Alabama would want to go join ISIS and kill their fellow citizens or why some kid would want to join neo-nazis or a gang.

Instead, we descend into partisan conversations where everything is political and neither side can concede or acknowledge the other’s points. Everyone and everything gets blamed while ignoring the actual person who killed.

I realize now why that is. I realize why we will never have the conversation we should have.

A society that looks at a 65 year old male Olympian and, with a straight face, declares him a her and “a new normal” cannot have a conversation about mental health or evil because that society no longer distinguishes normal from crazy and evil from good. Our American society has a mental illness — overwhelming narcissism and delusion — and so cannot recognize what crazy or evil looks like.

You want to recognize it, you sick, bigoted fuck? Look in the mirror.

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  • lofgren

    “We never seem to talk about the really difficult and important issues following these types of tragedies: celebrity genitals.”

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    He’s got a point. What do you think set Charles Whitman off, a brain tumor? More like America’s moral tumor!

     

    lofgren “celebrity genitals”

    That was my competitor to Hollywood Squares. True story.

  • eric

    As a nation, when these things happen, we never have the conversation about real evil.

    That’s true. When I turn on the TV on Sundays, the one thing that disturbs me most is the complete lack of preachers conversing about what’s really evil.

  • scienceavenger

    Yet again we have a twenty-something white male [racist] loner or semi-loner who got a gun and decided to kill [black] people. In most cases we have found that the mass shooter was mentally disturbed [like most racists are]. In this case, it looks more and more than Dylann Roof was just a servant of [the] evil [of] [racism] that says some of those created in the image of God are better than others or that some people are not created in the image of God at all.

    As a nation, when these things happen, we never have the conversation about real evil [of racism].

    FTFY.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017276335 Strewth

    Once again, someone is oversimplifying mental health to push a ‘not me therefore bad’ position. There is a wide, wide variation in mental states, just like there is a wide, wide variation in physical states. The issue isn’t ‘is this abnormal’, it is ‘is this pathological’. Does it interfere with an individual’s ability to live a full, productive life? If the situation is pathological, then we have to ask what the best approach to change the circumstances in order to alleviate or mitigate that pathology.

    Sometimes that means cutting bits off people. Sometimes it means giving them an extra tool. And sometimes it means changing the way society knee-jerkingly puts people into artificial social boxes.

  • John Pieret

    society no longer distinguishes normal from crazy and evil from good

    So, who, exactly, is going around saying that Roof’s act was neither crazy or evil? Seems (almost) everyone in society got that that distinction.

    Although you think the fact that someone’s mental picture of who they are doesn’t match up their their physical body is crazy, in contradiction to … you know … people who are knowledgeable in the subject of psychiatry, in what way is what Caitlyn Jenner did “evil”? Did she go out and force other people to have various surgeries or to take on a new gender? She made choices for herself that effect no one but herself.

    Unlike someone like you who want to make other people unable to marry who they love. Now that’s evil!

  • briandavis

    @2 Modusoperandi:

    lofgren “celebrity genitals”

    That was my competitor to Hollywood Squares. True story.

    “I’ll take Charlie Weaver’s cock to block please.”

  • busterggi

    As I’ve told you before, mirrors don’t work for conservatives. They are incapable of seeing reality.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    briandavis,

    Paul Lynde ~ [adjusts glasses] “I couldn’t block his cock, even if I wanted to.” {audience “woos”}

    Jim J Bullock ~ “I wouldn’t block it.” {audience “woos”}

    Paul Lynde ~ [adjusts glasses] “You stay out of this, Bullock.” {audience “woos”}

    John Davidson ~ [smiles blankly behind dead eyes]

  • Donnie

    busterggi says

    June 22, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    As I’ve told you before, mirrors don’t work for conservatives. They are incapable of seeing reality.

    So, are you saying conservatives are like vampires? Sucking the life out of us…..

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Donnie “So, are you saying conservatives are like vampires? Sucking the life out of us…..”

    George Takei ~ “Oh, my…” {audience “woos”}

    Paul Lynde ~ [adjusts glasses] “You stay out of this, Takei.” {audience “woos”}

  • eric

    We really should’ve made up Bingo cards for this. With “Thanks, Obama” in the center, of course.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    eric, he just gets the “free” square? Typical Obama!

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    There’s definitely money to be made in trying to be the biggest moron on the planet, but keep in mind the competition is fierce.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    The mental illness angle is deliberate. We see this every time a mass shooter with obvious conservative views pops up (Jared Lee Lougher). It’s a way of saying they couldn’t possibly be representative of conservatism in general because they were “obviously a lone nut.”

    Then they turn around and spread the “every mass murdered was registered democrat” myth.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    d.c.wilson “The mental illness angle is deliberate.”

    …and quickly swapped with something else from the pile once “Perhaps we should consider maybe thinking about some mild restriction that ineffectually prevents some of the mentally ill from obtaining firearms” comes up…

  • scienceavenger

    You think that’s ridiculous, get a load of this:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2015/06/22/south-carolina-gunman-partially-a-product-of-leftleaning-culture-n2015506/page/2

    They have moved into a permanent Poe state.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    The mental illness angle is deliberate. We see this every time a mass shooter with obvious conservative views pops up (Jared Lee Lougher).

    And yet conservatives, like most Americans, hate the rarely used insanity defense, and think its use is phony.

  • marcus

    Well, if you lefties will just go over the link that scienceavenger @ 17 gave you, you’ll discover who really is to blame for the state of affairs that produced this killer. Those savvy commenters know the truth.

    It was Jimmy Carter!

  • Michael Heath

    d.c. wilson writes:

    The mental illness angle is deliberate. We see this every time a mass shooter with obvious conservative views pops up (Jared Lee Lougher). It’s a way of saying they couldn’t possibly be representative of conservatism in general because they were “obviously a lone nut.”

    Yes that. But conservatives also use this very same argument to claim this sort of event shouldn’t be considered when we debate gun control laws.

    Also, I didn’t think my evaluation of conservative Christians leaders could go much lower unless they started overtly promoting mass slaughter inside the U.S. borders. But there is a between and they’ve descended down to it. It’s those leaders asserting we can’t know why this young man slaughtered nine people. The denialism we always observe by all conservative Christians is far deeper than I could have imagined. Fuck.

    And yes, some of the sheeple will confront what happened in Charleston. But they won’t ostracize their leaders who promote racism, denialism, and oppose/obstruct credible policies that make such events more possible.

  • slavdude

    “celebrity genitals”

    Dibs on this emo-punk band name!

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    In this case, it looks more and more than Dylann Roof was just a servant of an evil that says some of those created in the image of God are better than others or that some people are not created in the image of God at all.

    Huh?

    ….

    slavdude, Celebrity Genitals is great. I’ll never forget how hilarious she was those years she was a regular in the top row on Match Game back in the 70s.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    sigurd jorsalfar “slavdude, Celebrity Genitals is great. I’ll never forget how hilarious she was those years she was a regular in the top row on Match Game back in the 70s.”

    Remember the episode she pretended to get in to a fight with Charo?

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    I remember it well, modus. Even better than I remember to hit refresh before I post a comment.

  • StevoR

    For that matter, we don’t have honest conversations about why some kid in Minnesota or Alabama would want to go join ISIS and kill their fellow citizens or why some kid would want to join neo-nazis or a gang. Instead, we descend into partisan conversations where everything is political and neither side can concede or acknowledge the other’s points. Everyone and everything gets blamed while ignoring the actual person who killed.

    Yes exactly!

    So now you’re going to talk about hatred and the ideas of white supremacy and how southern culture has coddled and stewed the worst excesses of racism and paranoid bigotry and promoting violence as an answer and stuff like that right? Right? Its clearly leading into that conversation yeah..

    A society that looks at a 65 year old male Olympian and, with a straight face, declares him a her and “a new normal” cannot have a conversation about mental health or evil because that society no longer distinguishes normal from crazy and evil from good.

    What! The? Fuck!!! *

    How the fuck do you segue from that first part to the second? Really seriously, in what possible warped way does that even relate to anything..? Arrghhh!!!*

    Whelp, there goes another tankerload of irony meters and we have anew champion in illustration complete obliviousness to logic and reality and self-awareness.

    * Hey, I know, three exclaimation marks – but dammit this time teach one is merited and maybe more.

  • StevoR

    Fucking blockquote tags!

    That’s :

    What! The? Fuck!!! *

    How the fuck do you segue from that first part to the second? Really seriously, in what possible warped way does that even relate to anything..? Arrghhh!!!*

    Whelp, there goes another tankerload of irony meters and we have anew champion in illustration complete obliviousness to logic and reality and self-awareness.

    * Hey, I know, three exclamation marks – but dammit this time teach one is merited and maybe more.

    Natch.

  • StevoR

    Oh for pity’s sake. This is why I need and editing function and, yes, maybe a cluebat whack and a time delay on my clicking finger too. For clarity, make that :

    Whelp, there goes another tankerload of irony meters and we have a new champion in illustrating complete obliviousness to logic and reality and self-awareness.

    * Hey, I know, three exclamation marks – but dammit this time each one is merited and maybe more.

    Sorry y’all. Mea culpa.

    Also I’m going to second and share Dana Hunter’s latest ‘En tequila es verdad’ post here :

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2015/06/22/today-is-a-good-day-to-deny-the-american-right-wing-refusal-to-face-facts/

    Which is just absolutely spot on and seconded by me. This also shows us the nine faces that should be everywhere and whose lives should be thought about most after the Charleston massacre – the faces of those murdered for skin colour and luck of birth who did nothing to deserve their cruel end.

  • StevoR

    And thankyou Dana Hunter for showing us the nine faces that should be everywhere and should be thought about most after the Charleston massacre – the faces of those murdered for skin colour and luck of birth who did nothing to deserve their cruel end. We keep seeing the racist scumbag mass murderers face and hearing his words in the media. Okay. There’s reason for that I guess.

    But let’s never forget the people who were lost because of it and their nine separate human lives and their wishes and dreams and hopes and existences as individual, worthwhile I think good people too. Let’s remember them and remember them well and clearly and think of them and their families. Then remember they were killed for nothing, no good reason only for a pathetic cowardly douchebags racist hate.

    PS. Is it just me or could the exact arguments be used for f;lying the Nazi swastika flag as the confederate one and yet who defend doing that and not find it political suicide yet how many defend the (let’s call it what it is) pro-slavery, KKK and racism flag? I’m not the first or only one saying this either :

    http://aattp.org/own-it-right-wing-racists-and-terrorists-the-american-swastika/

    Tear down that flag and the hate and bigotry that rides in with it!

    (I know, I know, Godwin’s law – but, dammit, again, I think this case does merit that comparison and hold true regardless.)

  • StevoR

    John Stewart :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJl9iqnvkOE

    Says it all so well here -not funny, no jokes, confronting, depressing,powerful and true.

  • lorn

    I was sort of agreeing with Erick Erickson right up to the last paragraph.

    He was going along pretty well with reality and then, in that last paragraph, his irrational gut-level disgust over people having control over their genitals and doing something he wouldn’t, likely rooted in confusion over being trans-gender and gay, and the entirely irrelevant perceived ickiness of gay sex, took over.

  • eric

    So, so far as conservative reasons for this shooting, we have (in no particular order):

    1. Liberal values

    2. Gun control

    3. Thanks Obama!

    4. Anti-Christian sentiment

    5. Gay rights

    6. False flag op

    7. Drugs

    You know, I’m kinda disappointed in the right wing. Am I to conclude that nobody has blamed this tragedy on socialized healthcare, on legalized abortion, or on the ‘global warning myth’? C’mon pundits, you’re missing some real opportunities here!

  • greg1466

    …Dylann Roof was just a servant of an evil that says some of those created in the image of God are better than others…”

    You mean like the Bible, Koran and virtually every other “holy book” in existence?

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    @ 31,

    Yes, nearly everything and everyone is responsible.* … Except for the person who actually is responsible.

    * Brought to you by the “party of personal responsibility.”