Roy Moore: ‘Are We Exiles In Our Own Country?’

Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court is spreading bullshit about Friday’s marriage ruling from the Supreme Court at an impressive clip. Speaking to a group, he wondered if merely speaking out against marriage was a violation of someone’s civil rights (no, of course not, and he knows it) and lamented that Christians are now “exiles in our own country.”

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who has urged the state to flout the ruling, told one church that Christians will now face massive persecution, suggesting that he is breaking the law by speaking against the ruling. “Sodomy for centuries was declared against the laws of nature and Nature’s God. And now if you say that in public, and I guess I have, am I violating somebody’s civil rights?” Moore asked. “What are Christians to do? Where do we go? Are we exiles in our own country?”

Yes, you are. You should try to find a country that is more hospitable to your theocratic views, one that understands that their job is to write laws based upon the word of God. I suggest Russia. Or Pakistan. Or Saudi Arabia. Would you like help packing?

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  • Chiroptera

    All this anger, just because somewhere else other than in the church where they are shouting, a gay couple is getting married.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com holytape

    Publicly says that you can’t publicly say. What’s next, is Moore going to tweet that he’s been banned from Twitter?

  • Mr Ed

    One doesn’t have to spend much time on the internet before they see all sorts of wild eyed legal theories being spouted by people whose only training is having caught the last ten minutes of a Law and Order episode once. There are sovereign citizens and conspiracy theorists, wishful thinkers and those with a forth grade civics education but all of them seem to have a firmer grasp on the law the Moore.

    Is the only qualification to run for a judgeship in Alabama is the ability to make a mark on the election form. [To win you need to be white, male and evangelical]

    I know that his bluster is more ego trip and election speech but his behavior does not reflect well on his office.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @Mr Ed

    It didn’t reflect well on his office the first time, when he threw a tantrum over a Ten Commandments monument and got booted off of the bench for it.

  • John Pieret

    Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who has urged the state to flout the ruling, told one church that Christians will now face massive persecution, suggesting that he is breaking the law by speaking against the ruling.

    If merely speaking out against the ruling is against the law, what is urging the local government to flout the law? Sedition? And helping the government to do it? Wouldn’t that be treason?

    Oh, wait! This is Alabama and they have a long tradition of sedition and treason!

  • John Pieret

    “What are Christians to do? Where do we go? Are we exiles in our own country?”

    Well, you can do what you have long done and say ‘we are all sinners’ and ‘judge not lest ye be judged’ and ‘do unto other as you would have others do unto you.’

    But of course, what you say has never had anything to do with how you act.

  • marcus

    While I support all necessary bashing of Roy Moore and those in the state resisting the SCOTUS ruling, I appreciate those who realize that we are doing so In support of the LBGT citizens of that benighted state (my sister being one of them) and the state officials who are ignoring Moore’s idiocy and are carrying out their duties with good will and alacrity.

    There are many of them.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    This world is an illusion, exile!

  • anubisprime

    First rule of jeebus club…spread fear!

    Second rule of jeebus club…pretend you have the answer!

    Third rule of jeebus club…it always involves jeebus!

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    @9: I think the 1st rule is “You do talk about Jesus club.”

    and the 2nd rule is “You DO talk about Jesus club…incessantly!”

  • grumpyoldfart

    Was it a church meeting or a husting?

  • Die Anyway

    > “…exiles in our own country.”

    Roy,

    I’d rather that it be more like quarantine. You have a terrible disease which is disgusting and should not be spread to the populace. Please stay hidden away so that the rest of us can go on about the business of life.

  • theguy

    ““Sodomy for centuries was declared against the laws of nature and Nature’s God”

    Well, guess what, ShitMoore? Homosexuality is not against nature, as evidenced by the hundreds of animal species that engage in same-sex intercourse. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve “declared” it to be unnatural.

    “And now if you say that in public, and I guess I have, am I violating somebody’s civil rights?”

    Clearly the Chief Moron is confused about the difference between the liberal definition of free speech (which protects all differing groups) and his own, which I assume only protects fundamentalist Christians.

    ShitMoore, of course, has advocated executing gay people. Who the fuck is he to complain about persecution? Is he being “persecuted” because he’s being blocked from carrying out his bloodthirsty fantasies?

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who has urged the state to flout the ruling, told one church that Christians will now face massive persecution, suggesting that he is breaking the law by speaking against the ruling.

    People pointing out you’re a bigoted ass because you hold bigoted asinine beliefs (no, we don’t give two shits if they are inspired or commanded by the stinking “God” toy grovel before) is now a form of “persecution?”

    What ever happened to “personal responsibility” and being “held to account for your actions,” or “ideas have consequences,” and other tired right-wing clichés?

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    It’s getting so dangerous to express anti-gay views they may soon need to don glory suits and travel in crowds at night with torches.

  • dingojack

    Dr X – they’d better pray they don’t run into a crowd of gays then, sky-clad and armed with glitter! 😉

    Dingo

  • raven

    ““Sodomy for centuries was declared against the laws of nature and Nature’s God”

    So what?

    For millennia, slavery was considered part of nature’s law. There are still slaves today in parts of the world.

    And of course, natural law doesn’t exist!!!

    Natural law says if humans were meant to live in Michigan, they would be born with thick fur. Natural law says if humans were meant to fly, we would have wings. Natural law says Roy Moore would have been culled as a defective human being.

    Natural law is like the bible or a Rorschach inkblot. It proves everything and nothing.

  • whheydt

    Re: ArtK @ #4…

    And speaking of Ten Commandments monuments….according to an article on MSN yesterday, the Oklahoma State Supreme Court ruled that the one their capitol grounds is a violation of the *state* constitution and must be removed. As I understand the rules, SCOTUS doesn’t ever take cases that a state supreme court decides based on their own state constitution, so there is no appeal to this ruling. The only recourse would e to change the state consitution.

    This will be something to keep an eye on to see how the governor and legislature try to get out of it. I would imagine they will try for a constitutional amendment, but how they’ll try to permit a ten Commandments monument without opening the grounds to everyone else will be fun to watch (and will–undoubtedly–fail).

  • dingojack

    Dear Roy –

    Will you please be an exile in someone-else’s country (you’re lowering the tone).

    Thanks,

    America

    ————-

    Dear Roy –

    We don’t want you, or any of your ilk.

    Bugger off –

    The Rest of the World

  • John Pieret

    UPDATE: The Federal judge in Alabama who joined all the probate judges in a class action and issued a preliminary injunction to require them to issue SSM licenses (but stayed it pending the outcome of Obergefell) has now ruled that the injunction is in effect, making anyone who disobeys it subject to sanctions or worse. The rubber has now met the road.

  • lorn

    I love the cheap little American flags, undoubtedly produced in China, placed at such regular intervals around the stage. There, presumably, to remind people of their location in the old USA, doncha know. As if there was any doubt. We are, as far as I can tell, the only nation where open displays of such stupidity are both routine and considered by many to be something to be proud of. Yes, there may be a few in some other country that might say something equally stupid, it happens, but they don’t give the guy time on stage, a microphone, or raise the idiot up as head justice on a high court. Only in America.

  • John Pieret

    they don’t give the guy time on stage, a microphone, or raise the idiot up as head justice on a high court. Only in America.

    That’s a major component of American Exceptionalism.

  • D. C. Sessions

    This will be something to keep an eye on to see how the governor and legislature try to get out of it.

    Not really a problem they need to solve. All of the justices who voted with the majority will be out after the next election and the new majority will reverse the ruling … or else.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    John Pieret “That’s a major component of American Exceptionalism.”

    Also, Meritocracy.

  • freehand

    theguy says: ““Sodomy for centuries was declared against the laws of nature and Nature’s God”

    .

    Well, guess what, ShitMoore? Homosexuality is not against nature, as evidenced by the hundreds of animal species that engage in same-sex intercourse. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve “declared” it to be unnatural.

    .

    What – so you would have us act like animals?!?!?!

    .

    I think people who use “natural law” in discourse understand neither law nor nature.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @John Pieret

    Yes, we seem to be exceptional at racism, homophobia, mass incarceration, low levels of education, teen birth rate, and general stupidity. USA! USA! USA!

  • Doug Little

    ‘Are We Exiles In Our Own Country?’

    Generally assholish behavior these days will get you shunned by a majority of the population thanks to the internet and social media disseminating the information at the speed of light. It’s simple, you can be as Christian as you like just don’t be a bigoted asshole and you will do just fine.

  • D. C. Sessions

    It’s simple, you can be as Christian as you like just don’t be a bigoted asshole and you will do just fine.

    For some, it’s a package deal.

  • thebookofdave

    @Doug Little #27

    Shunned by many, but also welcomed by many, so it’s not descriptive for Moore to refer to his group as exiles. It’s more of an asshole movement, stirring deep from within the bowels of this nation.

  • jnorris

    anubisprime:

    Fourth rule of jeebus club…get donations.

  • Crudely Wrott, lurching towards recrudescence

    Moore asked. “What are Christians to do? Where do we go? Are we exiles in our own country?”

    Answer to the first question: Suck it up and roll with it, child. Your god has rolled the dice and you must roll with it; if you have sufficient faith.

    Answer to the second question: Yes, you are.

    You make the bed you sleep in. So do the rest of us. Eat it.