Classic Roy Moore Theocratic Nonsense Never Goes Out of Style

Right Wing Watch dug up an interview from 2006 with Kevin Swanson, one of the most extreme voices on the Christian right, talking to Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore. It’s classic Moore, a frothy mixture of stupidity and Christian theocratic views.

In a 2006 interview with far-right radio host Kevin Swanson, Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore — who was then between his two stints on the state Supreme Court — lamented that public schools were teaching students about Islam and the theory of evolution, saying Christian parents couldn’t “justify sending their children to schools where they teach that they weren’t created in the image of God, that they evolved from monkeys.”

No one believes we evolved from monkeys. You need to go back to a school that does teach evolution.

Moore also repeated his insistence that that Rep. Keith Ellison, who had just been elected as the first Muslim member of Congress, should not be allowed to take his seat in the House if he swore his oath of office on a Koran, saying that such events were leading to the “destruction of our society and our nation from within.”

Asked by Swanson about Ellison’s election, Moore responded that it was “a very bad indication of where we are going” and claimed that the congressman-elect was “known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.”

“This Ellison wants to swear on the Koran and basically swear that his law supersedes the Constitution of the United States, and he shouldn’t be seated,” he said.

Swanson agreed, saying, “If we begin to bring humanist socialists denying the existence of God or Muslims denying the word of God, the Bible, that is the foundation of this country, I think we’ve got tyranny to look forward to. I’m not sure if it’s the Muslim kind or the socialist kind, but either kind is bad.”

So swearing an oath on the Quran means the person is elevating the Quran above the Constitution, but swearing an oath on the Bible? In Roy Moore’s world, it does mean that. But would he rather have a Muslim swear an oath on a book he doesn’t believe in? Would that be better? Of course not. He doesn’t think Muslims should be electable at all — all while lavishly declaring his undying love for a Constitution that clearly forbids such religious tests.

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  • wreck

    “Asked by Swanson about Ellison’s election, Moore responded that it was “a very bad indication of where we are going” and claimed that the congressman-elect was “known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.””

    Irony meter: KABOOOOM!

  • wreck

    “Asked by Swanson about Ellison’s election, Moore responded that it was “a very bad indication of where we are going” and claimed that the congressman-elect was “known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.””

    Irony meter: KABOOOOM!

  • grumpyoldfart

    And here he is – still going strong. His stupidity hasn’t held him back at all.

  • grumpyoldfart

    And here he is – still going strong. His stupidity hasn’t held him back at all.

  • John Pieret

    Shorter Roy Moore: We have to make sure we have the right theocracy overthrow our Constitution.

  • John Pieret

    Shorter Roy Moore: We have to make sure we have the right theocracy overthrow our Constitution.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    No one believes we evolved from monkeys.

    If you people don’t believe that, then why are we always saying that you do? Checkmate, Darwinists!

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    No one believes we evolved from monkeys.

    If you people don’t believe that, then why are we always saying that you do? Checkmate, Darwinists!

  • raven

    The number of xians who claim the right and desire to rule over me and run my life is huge.

    1. The Catholics want to plan my reproductive and sex life based on something a Pope made up a few decades ago.

    2. The fundie xian cultists want to plain just rule everything and everybody.

    3. The number of xians who have any legal, moral, or ethical right to rule me, anything, or the cats is….zero.

    4. We’ve seen this movie before. The time when xians had power was known as the Dark Ages. They lived up to their name.

    We’ve found a far better way. It started with putting the xians on a leash and in a box. They hate that and keep trying to get out though.

    5. Modern fundie-ism is all about power and money, right wing extremist politics with a few crosses stuck on for show. Which makes sense. While the gods might exist they probably don’t. Power and money do exist and are quite useful.

  • Childermass

    “No one believes we evolved from monkeys. You need to go back to a school that does teach evolution.”

    Actually that is simply not true. We are not descended from modern monkeys. As for actual descent there are two ways to ask. One in the popular sense. Would someone today call our most recent common ancestor with a baboon, a monkey? The answer is clearly yes. If I got a time machine and dropped it next to you you would undoubtedly think it a monkey though of a type you have never seen before. As for the scientific sense, then the answer is much like that of the ape: we are apes. Likewise, we are monkeys unless you define monkey to not include apes and in that case the taxon is paraphyletic and is not a proper taxon making the question meaningless.

  • Childermass

    “No one believes we evolved from monkeys. You need to go back to a school that does teach evolution.”

    Actually that is simply not true. We are not descended from modern monkeys. As for actual descent there are two ways to ask. One in the popular sense. Would someone today call our most recent common ancestor with a baboon, a monkey? The answer is clearly yes. If I got a time machine and dropped it next to you you would undoubtedly think it a monkey though of a type you have never seen before. As for the scientific sense, then the answer is much like that of the ape: we are apes. Likewise, we are monkeys unless you define monkey to not include apes and in that case the taxon is paraphyletic and is not a proper taxon making the question meaningless.

  • Synfandel

    Childermass @6, IANAP (I am not a primatologist), but I don’t think we define monkeys to include apes. The Hominidae (Great Apes, including Humans) are siblings of the Old World Monkeys, both being immediate descendants of the Catarrhini, which in turn are siblings of the New World Monkeys (Platyrrhini). The nearest common ancestor of Old World Monkeys and Great Apes is not a monkey.

    ref: Primate Genealogy

  • Synfandel

    Childermass @6, IANAP (I am not a primatologist), but I don’t think we define monkeys to include apes. The Hominidae (Great Apes, including Humans) are siblings of the Old World Monkeys, both being immediate descendants of the Catarrhini, which in turn are siblings of the New World Monkeys (Platyrrhini). The nearest common ancestor of Old World Monkeys and Great Apes is not a monkey.

    ref: Primate Genealogy

  • theguy

    “claimed that the congressman-elect was ‘known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.’”

    As opposed to ShitMoore?

    “Swanson agreed, saying, ‘If we begin to bring humanist socialists denying the existence of God or Muslims denying the word of God, the Bible, that is the foundation of this country, I think we’ve got tyranny to look forward to.'”

    ShitMoore has advocated executing gay people. I guess Swanshit is fine with that, but humanism or socialism causes tyranny?

  • theguy

    “claimed that the congressman-elect was ‘known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.’”

    As opposed to ShitMoore?

    “Swanson agreed, saying, ‘If we begin to bring humanist socialists denying the existence of God or Muslims denying the word of God, the Bible, that is the foundation of this country, I think we’ve got tyranny to look forward to.'”

    ShitMoore has advocated executing gay people. I guess Swanshit is fine with that, but humanism or socialism causes tyranny?

  • busterggi

    If humans evolved from monkeys then why aren’t monkeys embarrassed?

  • Scientismist

    wreck @1 — Makes perfect sense. Ellison was “known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.” He must have been hanging out with the likes of Swanson and Moore.

  • Scientismist

    wreck @1 — Makes perfect sense. Ellison was “known to associate with groups that actually oppose the Constitution.” He must have been hanging out with the likes of Swanson and Moore.

  • cgm3

    If humans evolved from monkeys then why aren’t monkeys embarrassed?

    What, flinging feces at us doesn’t adequately express their feelings?

  • cgm3

    If humans evolved from monkeys then why aren’t monkeys embarrassed?

    What, flinging feces at us doesn’t adequately express their feelings?

  • coragyps

    Rudy Ray Moore had much better humor than Roy Moore.

    Probably would have made a much better judge, too.

  • coragyps

    Rudy Ray Moore had much better humor than Roy Moore.

    Probably would have made a much better judge, too.

  • D. C. Sessions

    ShitMoore has advocated executing gay people. I guess Swanshit is fine with that, but humanism or socialism causes tyranny?

    You forget the conservative definition of “tyranny:” any change to the Proper Social Order (where, conveniently, they’re on top.)

  • Synfandel

    busteggri @9:

    If humans evolved from monkeys then why aren’t monkeys embarrassed?

    Have you ever seen how monkeys behave in a zoo? I could swear they’re Republicans.

  • Synfandel

    busteggri @9:

    If humans evolved from monkeys then why aren’t monkeys embarrassed?

    Have you ever seen how monkeys behave in a zoo? I could swear they’re Republicans.

  • busterggi

    Synfandel -then they are incapable of enough self-awareness to be embarrassed.

  • busterggi

    Synfandel -then they are incapable of enough self-awareness to be embarrassed.

  • whheydt

    I wonder if–at the time–anyone pointed out to Moore that the Koran Ellison was sworn in on had belonged to…Thomas jefferson. (You know, one of those “honored Founding Fathers.)

  • whheydt

    I wonder if–at the time–anyone pointed out to Moore that the Koran Ellison was sworn in on had belonged to…Thomas jefferson. (You know, one of those “honored Founding Fathers.)

  • carpenterman

    Swanson and Moore may not be descended from monkeys. It has been clearly demonstrated that monkeys have the capacity to learn.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    D. C. Sessions “You forget the conservative definition of “tyranny:” any change to the Proper Social Order…”

    Wrong. First of all, it’s the Divinely Ordained Social Order…

     

    “…(where, conveniently, they’re on top.)”

    …and second it’s less about being on top and more about always have someone below you.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    D. C. Sessions “You forget the conservative definition of “tyranny:” any change to the Proper Social Order…”

    Wrong. First of all, it’s the Divinely Ordained Social Order…

     

    “…(where, conveniently, they’re on top.)”

    …and second it’s less about being on top and more about always have someone below you.

  • Al Dente

    Moore was forgetting one little bit in his beloved Constitution. Article VI paragraph 3 says in part:

    …no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.[

  • Al Dente

    Moore was forgetting one little bit in his beloved Constitution. Article VI paragraph 3 says in part:

    …no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.[