Hey, Maybe That’s Why Conservatives Hate Welfare

Steve Deace, an astonishingly stupid right wing talk show host in Iowa, had Florida wingnut John Stemberger on his show recently and they floated a fascinating new theory that people wouldn’t be gay if they could just be kept dirt poor. Listen to this vortex of absurdity:

This prompted Deace to share his theory that the sexual revolution was an outgrowth of the welfare state because before the expansion of the social safety net, most people were too poor to “act out immorally” by having “multiple wives” and “gay lovers” since “no one was subsidizing [their] depravity.”

“We have that today, which is why the sexual revolution came after the welfare state, because once it was obvious that people were not going to be held directly accountable for their actions, we removed the inhibitions against human nature that we already had,” he explained.

Stemberger agreed with Deace’s assessment, adding, “People who are hard-working and have to be self-sufficient and are not going to be propped up by the government don’t have the luxury of doing stupid, immoral things.”

So that’s why they don’t want to help poor people, because it makes them gay! Geniuses, I tell you. Bloody geniuses.

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  • https://www.facebook.com/jd.guthrie84 Jared Guthrie

    “People who are hard-working and have to be self-sufficient and are not going to be propped up by the government don’t have the luxury of doing stupid, immoral things.”

    Exactly why there aren’t any rich CEOs!! Tim Cook either isn’t really rich or isn’t really gay.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/TabbyLavalamp Tabby Lavalamp

    They’re telling the truth! Before the New Deal, there were never any sodomites! (Hell, I don’t even know how “sodomites” got their name having never existed until the New Deal.)

  • llewelly

    Fairly soon we’ll see this theory tested. Will the Duggars shape up once their source of wealth is taken away?

  • Knight in Sour Armor

    Homosexual couples have to jump through hoops to get children, which are a major luxury item that the poors can’t really afford. Don’t see where dude is getting the idea that being gay is less economically viable than being straight and popping out babies.

  • theguy

    I’m not even sure what Teabag #1 and Teabag #2 are saying. “Most people are too poor to ‘act out immorally'” but usually teabaggers blame poor people for making bad decisions, but now poverty is a deterrent? WTF?

    Poverty isn’t caused by immorality or irresponsibility (in most cases, at least) and the safety net, as it currently exists (post-90’s reforms) tries to encourage marriage and work. Also, there’s nothing immoral about gay relationships. If anything, a monogamous gay relationship is the opposite of adultery.

  • howardhershey

    Blessed are the poor because they are the most moral of our people. Unlike the rich. they don’t smoke nor drink, Norfolk. Which is why Republican State legislators want to drug test them and regard certain immigrant skin tones of poor people as “rapists” (but *some* may be good people). Sometimes one has real trouble thinking that these commentators are thinking at all.

  • D. C. Sessions

    People who are hard-working and have to be self-sufficient and are not going to be propped up by the government don’t have the luxury of doing stupid, immoral things.

    True, that. You don’t see poor working people drinking themselves oblivious, or driving trucks that suck gallons per mile and burn more oil than gas all to look impressive, lacking any load for the trucks and all. You don’t see them wasting money on fast food that’s loaded with fat and sugar, no siree. Healthy eaters to a one, with the low blood pressure and six-pack tummies that the so-called “elites” never manage thanks to all that rich eatin’ and lazy lifestyle. And poor folk never get in a family way before they’re married, either — not like those nose-in-the-air bitches with schoolin’ and all.

    So don’t you go disrespectin’ the workin’ poor. The country would be a lot better if everybody was more like them.

  • karmacat

    So according to their logic, the more tax breaks someone gets, the gay that person is?

  • http://www.facebook.com/eo.raptor.3 eoraptor

    WTF is going on? This is the second post, in a row, where the levels of stupidity and hate have reach biblical (heh!) proportions! Did a stupid bomb go off last night? I mean, first a black preacher says slavery was morally right, then these two — jeez, I don’t even know what to call them — go on about how being poor automagically makes one moral. I can’t believe anybody with an IQ above room temperature listens to these (I hate to call them people) hate-jobs, for any reason other than a warped sense of amusement.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    The trick is to hit the Deace Equilibrium, where the amount of corporate welfare, which needs to be quite a lot for the deserving Job Creators, just balances and does not tip too far to cause the whole corporation to become gay, upsetting its own deeply held religious beliefs, creating moochers and Godwrath. Politics is hard!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eo.raptor.3 eoraptor

    I should have added that I’m guilty as charged of the amusement part.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Ergo, Donald Trump, the Walton heirs, Sheldon Adelson, & the Bros. Koch must be more depraved than anybody!

  • eric

    I’m actually kind of on board with the whole ‘poor people don’t have the luxury of being stupid’ meme. Its why the poor vote for candidates who promise poverty-reducing measures while the middle-class votes for candidates who promise tax cuts for the super-rich.

  • Crimson Clupeidae

    Welfare made me gay!!!

    They don’t us all welfare queens for nothing. :p

  • Michael Heath

    eorapter:

    . . . automagically. . .

    Cool word!

  • caseloweraz

    Ed: Listen to this vortex of absurdity…

    I was getting set to remake Idiocracy — but set in the present day — as Vortex of Absurdity. But I can’t do it now because Ed has stolen the title I planned to use.

    Maybe it’s just as well. Who would believe that the leading presidential candidates of a political party today would vie with each other to display the acme, the epitome, the ne plus ultra of obliviousness to how people and the world really work?

  • Lofty

    Clearly the poor aren’t considered poor enough unless they dress in rags and have to beg for scraps of mouldy bread from the republican rubbish bins.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Clearly the poor aren’t considered poor enough unless they dress in rags and have to beg for scraps of mouldy bread from the republican rubbish bins.

    … which is illegal so they can be arrested and set to hard labor.

  • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/412292098953894/ Jim Brotherton

    Some people can’t remember GW Bush.

  • D. C. Sessions

    … mostly those who voted for him. Twice.

  • Bruce

    So does all this mean sex workers are being moral?

    Or does it mean that immoral sex work is only done by rich people as a hobby, and never by a poor person who needs money?

    Then we can make America Moral by just giving money to everyone.

    I’m not sure the Calvanists are going to agree with those guys.

  • matty1

    @2

    Hell, I don’t even know how “sodomites” got their name having never existed until the New Deal.

    Did you not know, the construction of Sodom was one of the major New Deal Projects. Gomorah lost funding at the last minute, which is why we hear so little about it, although the site was later used as an exclusive retreat for Republican senators.