Republican Candidates Compete on Marriage Opposition

This weekend was the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, and it showed once again that many of the Republican presidential candidates are trying really hard to pander to the Christian right on same-sex marriage. They’re trying to outdo one another with ridiculous comparisons and responses.

At the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, Republican presidential candidates made it clear to social conservatives and evangelicals that they’re not going to give up their fight against same-sex marriage.

Since the U.S. Supreme Court decision last month legalizing same-sex marriage across the country, the Republican Party has been split between those who recognize that the country should accept the decision and move on, and those who will keep pushing to abolish the high court, allow states to ban same-sex marriage, or to “resist and reject judicial tyranny.”

“It was sad to see more than a few Republicans, including more than a few 2016 candidates, publicly saying it’s the law of the land, it’s settled, surrender and move on,” Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said during the event. “There is something profoundly wrong when republicans running for president are reading from Barack Obama’s talking points.”

The event featured 10 presidential hopefuls interviewed by Republican political consultant Frank Luntz. Between candidates, conservative leaders invoked religion and spoke about the need for the next president to support socially conservative ideologies.

Brian Brown, president of anti-same sex marriage group National Organization for Marriage, condemned the Supreme Court’s decision and said the fight must continue.

“Did Frederick Douglass give up when he was fighting against slavery?” Brown asked the audience.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker also repeated his call for a constitutional amendment which would allow states to decide whether or not to allow same-sex marriage. “I believe marriage is between one man and one woman,” he said, adding that he’s had that opinion for more than 20 years.

This plays great in Iowa, where the Republican caucuses are dominated by theocons. It doesn’t play so well in New Hampshire, where Republicans don’t tend to care about such things. And with support for marriage equality at nearly 60% nationally, it isn’t going to play well at all in a general election.

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  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    “There is something profoundly wrong when republicans running for president are reading from Barack Obama’s talking points.”

    Doubly so, because it means there are Republicans who can read Muslin.

  • raven

    The usual.

    Hitler, Stalin, commies, satan, demons, slavery, persecution, atheists, Pagans, Space Reptiles = Same sex maarriage. There isn’t much that doesn’t remind them of gay marriage.

    I’m bored with them and constant lies and fallacies. And have far more important things to think about.

    The big problems in the USA are the economic inequality that has increased steadily since the 1970’s. Headline today:

    Report on child welfare suggests many US children were left behind in economic recovery

    .By Kyle Potter, Associated Press3 hours ago

    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — A new report on child welfare that found more U.S. children living in poverty than before the Great Recession belies the fanfare of the nation’s economic turnaround.

    Twenty-two percent of American children were living in poverty in 2013 compared with 18 percent in 2008, according to the latest Kids Count Data Book, with poverty rates nearly double among African-Americans and American Indians and problems most severe in South and Southwest.

    1. Children growing up in poverty are unlikely to escape it.

    2. It’s worse in christofascist states. No surprise.

    3. The GOP solution is to call them animals, start a war on them, and cut food stamps and Medicaid. It’s all very…xian.

  • raven

    OT but related.

    Theologian whose views on evolution differed from his …

    https:/ /www. insidehighered.com/…/theologian-whose-vi…

    Apr 9, 2015 – They note that many religious institutions — as part of their mission — have more … Kevin Timpe, a professor of philosophy at Northwest Nazarene, is the …. Both interpretations date back to Roman times, and church councils back … only by biological facts but by chemical and geological evidence as well.

    Pro-Evolution Tenured Professor Laid Off from Nazarene …

    www .christianitytoday.com/…/evolution-professor-fired-…

    Apr 10, 2015 – A crowd-sourced funding campaign for fired college professor Tom Oord …. In 2009, biologist Richard Colling resigned from Olivet Nazarene University amid

    Despite xian claims of persecution, they can and will persecute anyone they can.

    Two more pro science professors have been fired at xian colleges.

    The fundies are huge fans of Joseph Stalin and his purges and Gulags.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    raven say what you want about their studio work, but Joseph Stalin and His Purges is awesome live (except for the tour for Potemkin Village which, like the album, sounds fantastic at first, but then you realize how empty it is). Gulags puts on a good show, too.

  • eric

    And with support for marriage equality at nearly 60% nationally, it isn’t going to play well at all in a general election.

    Yes but I’m sure the GOP primary winner will have a profound change of heart [nudge nudge] and agree to support the law of the land [wink wink].

    Somebody’s going to get blatantly lied to; that much I think is inevitable. The only real question is which of the current candidates – should they win the primary – would be lying to the religious right and have no intention of challenging SSM, and which candidates would be lying to the moderates in the middle and in fact challenge it.

  • scienceavenger

    “Did Frederick Douglass give up when he was fighting against slavery?” Brown asked the audience.

    As with so many of these analogies, they don’t seem to get the very important difference that Douglass was fighting to change an entrenched status quo, whereas the anti-SSM gang is now fighting to restore the former status quo. I don’t know of any analogous movement that succeeded. Once that Genie is out of the bottle, he stays out.

  • colnago80

    Actually, the Rethuglican nominee doesn’t need to push a constitutional amendment, the chances of passage of which are miniscule. All he/she has to do is promise to replace any Supreme Court vacancies with nominees who will vote to overturn the Overstreet decision. Given that Ginsburg almost certainly won’t make it to 2020, there’s the overturning vote right there.

  • Phillip IV

    And with support for marriage equality at nearly 60% nationally, it isn’t going to play well at all in a general election.

    That’s the nice thing about the Republican field for 2016 – it’s so large and full of candidates who have nothing to offer, none of them is going to be able to afford thinking about electability before the nomination is settled. At which point it will be too late, hopefully.

  • whheydt

    I’m sure the folks running the Democratic party are saving all the quotes and sound bites from the Republicans in the Clown Bus (a car would be too small…Kasich announced today and he’s number 16) for use in the general election.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    “There is something profoundly wrong when republicans running for president are reading from Barack Obama’s talking points.”

    The big question is whether the White House knows their teleprompter has been stolen.

  • parasiteboy

    those who will keep pushing to abolish the high court, allow states to ban same-sex marriage, or to “resist and reject judicial tyranny.

    Although the high court in this sentence is the US Supreme Court, It’s kind of ironic that candidates will say things like this when same-sex marriage has been legal in Iowa since 2009. The Iowa Supreme Court ruled the states limitation on marriage was in violation of the equal protection clause of Iowa’s constitution.

  • freemage

    I’d love it if some interviewer would pin down Scott on his proposed constitutional amendment.

    1: “Would couples in no-SSM states be permitted to travel to SSM-states to get married for federal benefits? Would the marriage be honored by their home state, in accordance with the Constitution’s current parameters?”

    2: “How would this affect same-sex couples who, married legally in a state that permits it, move to a state that does not?”

    3: “If a same-sex married couple is traveling through a non-SSM state, and get into a car wreck, and one of them is hospitalized, will their partner have the same visitation and medical decision rights as any spouse?”

    It can go from there.

  • scienceavenger

    Barack Obama’s talking points.

    Also know to those outside the GOP echo chamber as “reality”.

  • samgardner

    There is something profoundly wrong when republicans running for president are reading from Barack Obama’s talking points.”

    Because, you know, heaven forbid Democrats and Republicans actually agree on anything.

    How can they say such incredibly obstinate stuff and still think the problem is that Democrats are unwilling to compromise? I know conservatives aren’t good at empathizing, or at introspection either*, but really?

    * if you can’t understand other people and you can’t understand yourself, it sort of prompts the question of what you *are* good at understanding, doesn’t it?

  • jba55

    “How can they say such incredibly obstinate stuff and still think the problem is that Democrats are unwilling to compromise?”

    I think the problem is a childlike understanding of “compromise”. A lot of people never seem to grow out of the preschooler belief that it means getting their way.

  • tbp1

    Don’t you love how the members of the so-called law and order party are hustling to see who can proclaim his intention to break the law of the land in the loudest voice?

  • marcus

    From the OP “Since the U.S. Supreme Court decision last month legalizing same-sex marriage across the country…”

    Every time I read this I get the warm squigglies.

    So anticipated, yet so surprising.

  • colnago80

    Re jba @ #15

    The Rethuglicans are just channeling the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini who, during the Iran/Iraq war, responded to a suggestion that they begin negotiations to end the war with the statement: we will negotiate when Iraq surrenders.

  • dingojack

    scienceavenger (#6) – ‘Did we give up when Hitler invaded Pearl Harbour…?’

    😉 Dingo