On the subject of silence

An interesting convergence has occurred. My classes on the Bible will be having a discussion of the Bible and homosexuality on Friday. The same day is set aside as a day of silence, to commemorate the silence that many gays and lesbians impose upon themselves in order to avoid harassment or worse.

I find this also to pose something of a conundrum. On a day set aside to symbolically be silent, I have my classes that day dedicated to speaking about this subject. Am I going to be placing my GBLT students in an awkward situation? Will it be unfair to have the class talking about this subject on a day when they may feel it is inappropriate to chime in?

  • http://farce-sicle.blogspot.com PH

    Howdy :DJust perusing the pharyngula and I came about your comment. Being, a Baylor student, I’m no stranger to the topic. So about jesus being well-supported historically..im not so sure about that. In the roman cruxifiction records, the closest thing we have is a guy named “crestus”. That’s what many theologians cite as a jesus proof. But, actually, “crestus” was a common slave name back in the day. also, there appears to be other cases in roman literature before christ of people surving cruxifiction. These people were believed to have come back from the dead, but its more likely that the process of cruxifiction didn’t actually kill them and that their bodies natural healing processes restored their health.ps. grammar and spelling was neglected because im inherently lazy.

  • http://farce-sicle.blogspot.com ph

    by and by nice blog. those instructed in faith/reason theologies tend to quell the silly shenanigans of the creationsists. I have a couple of friends in seminary and the advice i hand out most often to my fundie friends is the need to use reason to interpret their scriptures. and the sheer volume of creation accounts produced by culture should at least indicate that if genesis has a truth its allegorical.

  • http://farce-sicle.blogspot.com PH

    link to my blog not working .. so .. here .. farce-sicle.blogspot.com

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/05830094293166211231 Robin

    I had a similar experience 2 years ago with the Day of Silence. It was VERY frustrating – we were actually in a class on feminism and one girl, who had shown herself to be highly intelligent, thoughtful, and very well-versed in the issues found herself frustrated on the Day of Silence because she was passionate about the topic that day and subject to her self-imposed silence, so unable to share her wisdom.I personally have problems with the Day of Silence – I was lead to believe it serves a different purpose than the one you’ve mentioned – it is meant to remind us that so many GLBT folks literally have no voice in the world, whether its because they lack representation in government or because they have suffered death at the hands of hate crimes. My opinion is that these folks do not have enough of a voice yet to be “commemorating” that lack of voice, or even reminding us about it by NOT SPEAKING. They should be shouting from rooftops instead.Short version of my opinion? I’d actually move the day you’re talking about this stuff to a day when the people who have the most at stake in the discussion can speak up about it.Your mileage may vary!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/13088067015467092319 Vera

    Years ago I started reading blogger Jenell Paris because of the following paragraph (found here):”Amy (not her real name) is a woman who used to be a man and had sex-reassignment surgery…. She is at our church, and I’ve never heard anyone judge her. She is working on her relationship with God in her own way, and lets people into her life as she is comfortable. I’ve seen people befriend her and love her, and let her into their lives as well. Honestly, I think people are mostly befuddled by the immense complexity of her life and story, and no one necessarily knows how to direct her life even if they wanted to. Good! We should always be humbled and chastened by other peoples’ complex lives, and just be their cheerleaders as they seek God – not be their coach.”

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/02561146722461747647 James F. McGrath

    Robin, I really did think about moving the class, but there is only one class after that and so it seemed likely to result in a chaotic mess if I did that. But I’ll keep an eye out for this next year.PH, I think what you are referring to is a mention of the unrest among the Jews in Rome at the instigation of “Chrestus” resulting in their expulsion by Claudius. That certainly is a possible but by no means certain reference to Christianity. But there is another reference that is regarded as authentic by the vast majority of historians, since it is quite negative and unlikely to have been written by Christians. Tacitus, in his Annals, wrote:”Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. “Alas, if only there were records of crucifixions (as you suggest), we could painstakingly sift through them. But they were too frequent for such to be feasible…

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the link.I was not aware Day of Silence participation was only for GLBT youth. I was not aware it is politically incorrect for straight students to participate. 15 year old Larry King went to his first period english class expecting a normal school day.He was shot twice in the head by his classmate at 8:15 am.He is dead. BD

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/00276860017599044287 Cobalt

    “Thank you for the link.I was not aware Day of Silence participation was only for GLBT youth. I was not aware it is politically incorrect for straight students to participate.”That’s not true. I participated in the Day of Silence, and received a warm and appreciative response from everyone I encountered (both straight and GLBT). In fact, the continuing appreciation I receive as a straight woman participating in the Day of Silence is one of the key reasons I participate: it reminds me that–if nothing else–it means something to the GLBT community that I’m showing support.


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