Progressive Christianity and the Bible

My contribution to the Patheos symposium on progressive Christianity, entitled “Progressive Christianity and the Bible,” has been posted. Click through to read it, then come back here to discuss it, if you’re so inclined!

  • Anonymous

    The whole conversation doesn’t interest me, because political, social, and fiscal views are philosophical positions that are defended by how one views life, values, goals and commitments. Those that aren’t inclined to “group suggestion” want to think for themselves and come to their own affirmations about life in general and their life specifically….

    Your use of “trust” is revealing, as “trust” is an act of commitment, which values a “God”, whereas critical questions are the position of a skeptic. In the former, the “bible answers” those questions,as it is presuppositional, while the latter questions and investigates. Skeptics like empirical evidence. So, can we end by saying “the bible” doesn’t answer anything? It only begs the questions….

  • angievandemerwe

    The whole conversation doesn’t interest me, because political, social, and fiscal views are philosophical positions that are defended by how one views life, values, goals and commitments. Those that aren’t inclined to “group suggestion” want to think for themselves and come to their own affirmations about life in general and their life specifically….

    Your use of “trust” is revealing, as “trust” is an act of commitment, which values a “God”, whereas critical questions are the position of a skeptic. In the former, the “bible answers” those questions,as it is presuppositional, while the latter questions and investigates. Skeptics like empirical evidence. So, can we end by saying “the bible” doesn’t answer anything? It only begs the questions….

  • Gary

    “The Wild Goose is a Celtic metaphor for the Holy Spirit”. Wild Goose festival?. Lucky it is not in the fall, when most conservative Christians are out hunting goose for their Christmas dinner. There must be something deeply symbolic about that. How about the Wild Mongoose Festival?…. at least it has a fighting chance, and it fights against a snake (symbolic of fundamentalists). I am bad.

  • Gary

    “the Greek word usually translated “faith” in the New Testament has overtones not only of faithfulness but also of trust. Trusting is not what you do when you are certain you are right. It is what you do when you know you could be wrong. Being willing to live with uncertainty can be an expression of faith in God”….Very good, applies to liberals and fundamentalists, although I doubt if fundamentalists would admit it.

  • Anonymous

     Gary, your definition defies living reasonably. It is a “jump in the dark” kind of faith….an existentialist/piestic faith…..as those asked to “trust” are trusting leaders that are setting agendas, not “God”!! “Word games” are not the foundations upon which to base one’s life!

    • Gary

      Angie….the quote belongs to James. I like it, and agree with it, but I didn’t originate it. I’m too old to originate anything anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Gary,
    You reinforced my point. Those that have their authority based in scripture do injustice to those that do not base their authority in “the text”. Others might choose Tradition to be their authority, while others use reason.

    Human experience cannot be forced into “one mold”, unless one wants a totaltalitarian regime, whether religious or political. This is why the Founders left religion (definition of faith) to conscience, while protecting all under a Constitutional government.


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