Thinking and Living Outside the Box

Another great cartoon from David Hayward, that made me laugh out loud…

  • Yme Woensdregt

    James

    Thank you so much for alerting me to David’s work.It is simply amazing … and like you, I laughed out loud at so many of his cartoons

  • Yme Woensdregt

    James

    Thank you so much for alerting me to David’s work.It is simply amazing … and like you, I laughed out loud at so many of his cartoons

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    Cute…but one wonders how anyone would invent or create without thinking outside the box….many didn’t accept Einstein’s theory of relativity, nor did the Church accept many of the “early facts” of science…..even today, science (and the Academy) threatens “true believers”, because what is viewed as “God’s voice”, might just be paranoia or psychosis of some kind….or it might just be the individual’s “human need” that is projected onto their “hearing” “understanding”, or “seeing”….the stimulus to the brain through an experience is interepreted through previous experiences, and the “messages” of those experiences, as well as “the facts out there”….

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    Cute…but one wonders how anyone would invent or create without thinking outside the box….many didn’t accept Einstein’s theory of relativity, nor did the Church accept many of the “early facts” of science…..even today, science (and the Academy) threatens “true believers”, because what is viewed as “God’s voice”, might just be paranoia or psychosis of some kind….or it might just be the individual’s “human need” that is projected onto their “hearing” “understanding”, or “seeing”….the stimulus to the brain through an experience is interepreted through previous experiences, and the “messages” of those experiences, as well as “the facts out there”….

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    I find it interesting that those in a given “box” always demean others that venture outside their “box”, but then, affirm those inside the “box” as courageous if they continue to affirm their own “box”….”boxes” must be chosen by evaluation. This is why I choose to affirm Western civilization above and beyond religious zealotry…as it allows for the liberty to evaluate, and choose!

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    I find it interesting that those in a given “box” always demean others that venture outside their “box”, but then, affirm those inside the “box” as courageous if they continue to affirm their own “box”….”boxes” must be chosen by evaluation. This is why I choose to affirm Western civilization above and beyond religious zealotry…as it allows for the liberty to evaluate, and choose!

  • Geoff Hudson

    Is this cheap humour?  This is surely not how you treat someone who does live and think outside the box is it?  Or are you laughing at yourself?  Do you consider that you live and think outside the box?  I suppose it depends on what you consider living and thinking inside the box means. You certainly have taken a lot of stick from Vridar and some of his supporters.

  • Geoff Hudson

    Is this cheap humour?  This is surely not how you treat someone who does live and think outside the box is it?  Or are you laughing at yourself?  Do you consider that you live and think outside the box?  I suppose it depends on what you consider living and thinking inside the box means. You certainly have taken a lot of stick from Vridar and some of his supporters.

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @f3a85ef3587d266dd38f72f6413e00d6:disqus , I think the point of the cartoon (which is humor, yes, and since I didn’t pay to enjoy it, I suppose it was “cheap”) is that those who think outside the box of a particular group or community often find themselves shown the door. Thinking outside of a particular group’s “box” can lead one to be outside that group in a variety of other ways.

    I thought it was pretty clear, personally…

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @f3a85ef3587d266dd38f72f6413e00d6:disqus , I think the point of the cartoon (which is humor, yes, and since I didn’t pay to enjoy it, I suppose it was “cheap”) is that those who think outside the box of a particular group or community often find themselves shown the door. Thinking outside of a particular group’s “box” can lead one to be outside that group in a variety of other ways.

    I thought it was pretty clear, personally…

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    The natural sciences have certain biases, which are “transformed” during certain pivotal paradigm shifts….I think Thomas Kuhn wrote a book about such shifts of scientific understanding…..

    Is it true that some believe we are in a cultural paradigm shift away from religious superstition, so that global efforts can be made toward unifying “humanity”? This is a technological shift where communication resources are such that people are given information that transforms, or broadens their understanding….what about confirmation bias, then?

    I don’t see how globalist can govern without some sort of limitation upon “the human”….liberty of choice, versus paternalistic government….

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    The natural sciences have certain biases, which are “transformed” during certain pivotal paradigm shifts….I think Thomas Kuhn wrote a book about such shifts of scientific understanding…..

    Is it true that some believe we are in a cultural paradigm shift away from religious superstition, so that global efforts can be made toward unifying “humanity”? This is a technological shift where communication resources are such that people are given information that transforms, or broadens their understanding….what about confirmation bias, then?

    I don’t see how globalist can govern without some sort of limitation upon “the human”….liberty of choice, versus paternalistic government….

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  • Guest

    Pity about the vulgarity.

  • Guest

    Pity about the vulgarity.

  • http://triangulations.wordpress.com/ Sabio Lantz

    This reminds me of a quote I like:
    “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”–Richard Feynman(physicist)”Experts” often define the box.

    • Angie VanDeMerwe

      Yes, and Feynman (did you know?),  resigned from the Academy of Sciences…..he wasn’t your average “Joe”…he was another that defined a box that isn’t quite what humans experience, or understand…..certainly, not the “cause and effect” understanding of Newtonian physics….

  • http://triangulations.wordpress.com/ Sabio Lantz

    This reminds me of a quote I like:
    “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”–Richard Feynman(physicist)”Experts” often define the box.

    • Angie VanDeMerwe

      Yes, and Feynman (did you know?),  resigned from the Academy of Sciences…..he wasn’t your average “Joe”…he was another that defined a box that isn’t quite what humans experience, or understand…..certainly, not the “cause and effect” understanding of Newtonian physics….

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @Guest, actually, I think it is an allusion to the donkey in the parable of the Good Samaritan…

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @Guest, actually, I think it is an allusion to the donkey in the parable of the Good Samaritan…

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    So a person is to be treated as a donkey, because being a “Good Samaritan” is for the greater good? That behavior is nothing other than scapegoating another person, to justify the group’s position….goal, vision, purpose, or value….

  • Angie VanDeMerwe

    So a person is to be treated as a donkey, because being a “Good Samaritan” is for the greater good? That behavior is nothing other than scapegoating another person, to justify the group’s position….goal, vision, purpose, or value….

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @Angie, actually I was just making an asinine joke…

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    @Angie, actually I was just making an asinine joke…

  • http://triangulations.wordpress.com/ Sabio Lantz

    So if almost all biblical scholars are in the box, who gets kicked out — mythicists.
    So funny about aphorisms, it is easy to get them to cut both ways.

    @ Angie:  Indeed, he was a fun, brilliant odd-ball.  We need more like that!

  • http://triangulations.wordpress.com/ Sabio Lantz

    So if almost all biblical scholars are in the box, who gets kicked out — mythicists.
    So funny about aphorisms, it is easy to get them to cut both ways.

    @ Angie:  Indeed, he was a fun, brilliant odd-ball.  We need more like that!

  • Guest

    Instead of laughing at vulgarity, perhaps Christians should be striving for a LESS vulgar society?

    Just a thought “outside the box” . . .

  • Guest

    Instead of laughing at vulgarity, perhaps Christians should be striving for a LESS vulgar society?

    Just a thought “outside the box” . . .

  • GakuseiDon

    “Thinking outside the box” is generally a question of perspective. There’s usually more than one box.

    • Angie VanDeMerwe

      Yes, perspectives are personal and cultural values. I believe it is the individual’s right to choose how to define his own “box”…where he wants to fit in society. There are many places to “fit” in America. 

  • GakuseiDon

    “Thinking outside the box” is generally a question of perspective. There’s usually more than one box.

    • Angie VanDeMerwe

      Yes, perspectives are personal and cultural values. I believe it is the individual’s right to choose how to define his own “box”…where he wants to fit in society. There are many places to “fit” in America. 


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