Who Said That? Captain America vs. 2 Corinthians

I just spotted a news article at IO9 about the fact that the majority of respondents to a survey attributed the following quote to Captain America:

“We often suffer, but we are never crushed. Even when we don’t know what to do, we never give up.”

That’s 2 Corinthians 4:8 in the translation of the Contemporary English Version. And as most readers of this blog will know, 2 Corinthians was not written by Captain America.

The original source of the story is The Christian Post, and their article provides further information. The survey was apparently conducted by the American Bible Society.

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  • Scott Ferguson

    “And as most readers of this blog will know, 2 Corinthians was not written by Captain America.”

    Obviously you are familiar with the New Perspective on Captain America! 

  • Angievandemerwe

    Scott, N.T. Wright and Paul’s apotleship to create constitutional government?

  • Brad Matthies

    I personally think that Rorschach from the Watchmen must have authored Revelations. Then again, I’m a hack.

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

    If you put an “s” at the end of “(the Book of) Revelation” again it might just end our friendship!  :-)

    • Brad Matthies

      James,

      I TOLD you that I was a hack! ;-)

      • Angievandemerwe

        It seems that there are two distinct ways of approaching our “Problem”. Both seek to speak ‘in line” with the “Problem”, but one seeks to do so in its own terms, while the other seeks to expand the view altogether….but is the solution a theological/spiritual solution or a political/social one? Or is it both.

        How do we understand such Problems in a natural context, allowing for the human, and yet, limiting it at the same time? Constitutional government worked for us….can it work under Absolutism? This is a problem indeed for fundamentalism…and the human as to personalities that see and understand things n a more concrete way!!!

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  • Anonymous

     4.7.But we have
    this [treasure] {Spirit} in [jars] {bodies} of [clay] {flesh} to show that this
    all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 

     

    4.8.We are hard
    pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair;

     

    4.9.persecuted,
    but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.

     

    4.10.[We always
    carry around in our body the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also
    be revealed in our body.

    4.11.For we who
    are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his
    life may be revealed in our mortal body.

    4.12.So then,
    death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.  

    4.13.As it is
    written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken."]

     

    With that same
    Spirit [of faith] we also believe and therefore speak,

     

    4.14.because we
    know that the [one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead] {Spirit} will also
    raise us [with Jesus and present us with you in his presence].   

     

    4.15.All this is
    for your benefit, so that the [grace] {Spirit} that is reaching more and more
    people may cause thanksgiving to overflow to the glory of God.

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/pstenberg Pär Stenberg

    GeoffHudson: I disagree. Even though I lack any textual evidence for my purely speculative re-writing of the Epistles of Paul, it is nevertheless painfully obvious that v. 7 should read:

    4.7.But we have this [treasure] {comic book hero} in [jars] {magazines} of [clay] {paper} to show that this all-surpassing [power] {American superhero, who also is a Captain,] is [from God] {the one who uttered the quote below} and not [from] us:

    4.8. “We often suffer, but we are never crushed. Even when we don’t know what to do, we never give up.”

    • Anonymous

      But what about the theological evidence?

  • Anonymous

    2 Cor.4.10.[We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus]  

    This was a part of what was interpolated text to do with Jesus.  It reveals what was really in the thoughts of the writer; this was “bodies” and  something we always carried around them.  It was not the editor’s ‘treasure’ (4.7) in ‘jars’ of ‘clay’, but the Spirit in bodies of flesh.     


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