The Dalai Lama on Buddhism and Science

As if in answer to my earlier question, George Takei posted this on Facebook:

That is also the attitude of progressive Christians, and many others, despite the existence of a vociferous minority who thinks that they can use ancient human texts to deny the realities before our eyes, or under our microscopes, or glimpsed through telescopes.

 

  • Just Sayin’

    The problem is, fundies like Davy Tee are terrified of this. How can we assuage their irrational fear?

  • Dr. David Tee

    We are not terrified of anything. Any reigion that changes its belief for governments, for science declares itself false. The Mormons did it when they abolished plural marriage to obtain statehood, progressive Creationists (christians) and theistic evolutionists do it to practice secular science.
    There has never been one scientific or archaeological discovery that has proven the Bible, jesus, God, and Christianity wrong. There has been a lot of speculation and conjecture but nothing verifiable or real.
    To take George Takai as an authority knowing his bias is just laughable. To take the Dalai Lama serously is even more so. The Dalai Lama is a false teacher who brings a different Gospel than the one Jesus and the disciples brought.
    All this is is just another weak attempt to unsit the truth and authority of God and the Bible and replace it with fallible, corrupt, sinful human science. Why people would exchange the holy, powerful sinless, uncorrupt, fair, just and loving God for the unholy, unpowerful, sinful. corrupt, unfair, an dunjust human and their fields of science is amazing.
    We can put such decisions down to 2 reasons: 1. God has sent a powerful delusion and most people are caught up in that and 2. they are afraid to relinquish their desires for God and His kingdom.
    With God people still get to practice science but they have to give up the secular versions first.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Evans/100000619020207 David Evans

      “God has sent a powerful delusion”

      Presumably some who believe that delusion will go to Hell as a result. Is that just?

      And if God is in the habit of sending powerful delusions, how do you know some of the Bible, or your reading of it, is not such a delusion?

    • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.ahsen Brenda Von Ahsen

      “Any reigion that changes its belief [...] for science declares itself false.”

      FALSE. Why? Because “science” simply refers to statements we have determined to be true. It is true that the Earth revolves about the sun. It is true natural selection accounts for the origin of species. It is true that force equals mass times acceleration and so on.

      “With God people still get to practice science but they have to give up the secular versions first.”

      There are not secular and religious versions of science. Science names FACTS and something is either a fact or it is not. Is heliocentrism a secular science or a religious one? Are the laws that govern gravity secular or religious?

      “The rain falls on the just and the unjust alike” – If by “rain” we understand that what is meant is to refer to our causal physical reality, in a word “science”. Then I think even the Bible disputes your claim that the rain has some preference for those on whom it would fall.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1428470021 Jonathan Hendry
    • andom

      Just wondering if “that is also the attitude of progressive Christians”…

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/ James F. McGrath

        It certainly can be. There is no Dalai Lama of Progressive Christians, but if there is something that characterizes progressive and liberal forms of Christianity, it is the willingness to recognize that other domains and disciplines have important things to say, which may require us to modify or discard traditional beliefs and practices. But to be honest, I find the statement vague enough that I would want a bit more explanation, personally, before really discussing and evaluating it.

  • andom

    Please,
    examples of ‘Buddhist beliefs’?

    • andom

      ok,
      I rephrase my question:
      Give me an example of Buddhist belief that it can be proven wrong by the science.


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