Reflecting on Two Years of Gospel Principles 2010 – 2011

As early as July 2009, news of a revised and updated version of the classic 1978 Gospel Principles manual hit the Mormon blogs, causing no small commotion.  There were questions about how much it was really revised (it wasn’t revised much).  Some observed that Bruce R. McConkie citations were eliminated (in reality only about 4 citations were removed but the material remained, and frankly never needed a citation to back it up anyway as it was rather standard and uncontroversial).  Some were excited about “getting back to basics” (as if we hadn’t been studying “the basics” since introducing the Teachings of the Presidents of the Church series in 1998).

But aside from all of that, the most interesting phenomena I observed was an extremely large amount of hope that this new and improved Gospel Principles manual was going to solve one of the most deeply problematic issues facing church membership today: the quality of Gospel instruction in Church meetings.   News of the arrival of the new manual became an opportunity (or outlet) for Mormon bloggers to reflect on the fruits of Correlation and the failures of Church Sunday School classes to challenge, engage, and inspire.

After the dust had settled, it seemed to me that the general consensus was that the anonymous and faceless generic Church manual was the culprit. “The Manual”—that relic of correlation was the cause of all of our problems.

Don’t get me wrong.  I’m very sympathetic to those who loath horrible Church manuals.  But seriously?  The manual became “the Ring” forged by the Dark Lord Sauron himself in the fires of Mount Doom “into this ring he poured all his hate, his malice, his will to dominate” church classrooms with boredom and infinite frustration.  Members carried this burden around their necks into the classroom, hoping one day for freedom from it, when it could be thrown into the fire and be “unmade.”  Some members even expressed desires that one day we could return to the Golden Age of pre-correlation Church manuals written by real and named individuals, manuals that were engaging and exciting, with cutting edge scholarship, and where a good time was had by all (does anyone really believe this age existed?).

My observation as an amateur sociologist-anthropologist was that targeting the manual was the most cost-effective and convenient way for Latter-day Saints to offer critical opinions about the Church without appearing to be apostates or without being accused of “steadying the ark.”   No one was criticizing the Church, the prophets, or any of the Lord’s Anointed.  Members were merely pointing out that these mass-produced and generic manuals were an impediment to real Gospel learning.  To be sure, a handful of lone gunmen argued that criticizing any manual published by the Church was tantamount, logically equivalent, to directly criticizing the First Presidency since they put their stamp of approval on it—it was produced with no less than the Prophet’s imprimatur, so went the argument.  Suffice it to say, the “correlated manual” became the boogeyman, the scapegoat, the Lee Harvey Oswald of gospel instruction.

During this time of great excitement, I argued that the teacher is really the determining factor for the quality of gospel lessons.  Naturally, the make-up of the classroom is also a determining factor.  Ultimately, I believe there is no substitute for artful and committed teachers.  Even the most carefully constructed and well-written manual does not teach itself.  No one has to wait for some utopian future when the world will be united in peace, where children sing, and nations and mankind live in harmony and when we will be provided with stellar manuals that are all things to everyone and can save the world from all that is wrong and evil.

So, with that in mind, I thought I would take some time to reflect on the past two years with the Gospel Principles manual.  I write with full disclosure that I actually did teach during the last two years and was assigned to teach lessons from the Gospel Principles manual.  Was it a bane or a blessing?  Was it the salvation that everyone hoped it would be?  Was it the worst manual on the planet as many people believed it to be?

To be honest, my teaching method and style did not change much between lessons I taught before the manual and lessons I taught after.  For me, the manual is merely a tool.  It set general parameters or the domain of Gospel inquiry, but it did not replace me as the instructor.  All teaching is an act of selection.  We have a limited amount of time and an almost unlimited amount of scriptures related to the subject matter.  Therefore, as an instructor, I still performed the task of determining the needs of my class and being selective in the focus of our lessons.

What about the manual?  Was it really horrible?  Probably yes.  I know full well what it feels like to fight against the manual.  I rarely wanted to ask the questions it suggested I ask.  The scriptures cited for certain propositions were wrong in my opinion.  Some scriptures that need to be used weren’t there at all.   The focus of some lessons seemed to be all wrong.  I disagreed that some topics rose to the level of being considered “a gospel principle.”  I admit that I even switched lessons with other instructors that I simply could not teach in good conscience.  I never teach anything that I am not passionate about.

Like Jacob wrestling and struggling with God during the night, I wrestled and struggled with the manual.  Preparation for teaching is a struggle.  But it was good to struggle with the manual.  It was good to dispute, to argue, and question it.  As I wrestled, insights and ideas came to me.  Sometimes ideas took their time but they did come.

As I reflect over every experience I had as an instructor, I feel good about each teaching moment.  Each lesson was my proverbial baby.  I nurtured, cared for, and watched over it.  I know I could say that the Spirit was the teacher or the Holy Ghost was the teacher in order to score more points with the orthodox and conservative Latter-day Saints.  After all, this is the part where, according to the traditional script of Mormon cultural etiquette, I’m supposed to give all credit to the Spirit as the “real” teacher or else risk being misunderstood as someone who is prideful and who fails to acknowledge God’s hand.  While I agree theologically and doctrinally that the Holy Ghost is the teacher of truth, this doesn’t explain why the Holy Ghost is wholly inconsistent from classroom to classroom, or why the Holy Ghost sometimes chooses not to attend our meetings.  How do we explain that?

I prefer Jeffrey R. Holland’s perspective that:

[W]e must revitalize and reenthrone superior teaching in the Church–at home, from the pulpit, in our administrative meetings, and surely in the classroom. Inspired teaching must never become a lost art in the Church, and we must make certain our quest for it does not become a lost tradition.”

Our salvation is not in manuals.  Our salvation, in the soteriological sense, is in Jesus Christ.  But the quality of our lessons and the quality of our “revelatory experiences” is irrevocably and inescapably dependent on real people who serve as instructors and who create (yes, create) the environment of Gospel learning.  As difficult as it is to teach, as scary and frustrating as it can be to teach, regardless of how many times we crash and burn as teachers, the teacher makes the class.  It is easier, and certainly safer, to blame an inanimate object as the cause of poor lessons, than it is to blame our brothers and sisters who have full-time jobs and families, and their own problems, but who simply fail to deliver when the bell rings.  It seems mean, it seems uncharitable, and it seems un-Christlike.  Who are we to judge another?  So we hide.  We pretend we are being kind and nice by hating the manual when in fact we simply prize getting-along with other people over honesty.

As I look back over the last years, I’m pleased with every lesson that I’ve taught.  I’ve been edified by those in my classroom who have shared their experiences and testimonies.  I’ve been taught by them.  I’ve tried to create an environment where people could share those experiences and feel they were heard and appreciated.  I also strive to be really honest about what I say.  I don’t walk on eggshells or avoid difficult topics.  I try to use diplomacy and tact as much as possible, but always honesty.  Honesty in teaching has done more to improve gospel learning than anything else.

As this year comes to an end, we will be finishing with the Gospel Principles manual.  We will return to the “not the basics” lessons from the Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: George Albert Smith.  We will continue with a series of quotations taken out of context and grouped thematically into twenty-four lessons.  I predict that once again, people will blog about the deplorable state of affairs of our manuals.  I will probably agree with them as I did before.  But I want to send the message that people shouldn’t feel like they are held hostage by correlation or that they must wait for some time that will never come when some magical manual will change their experience.  Don’t misplace your trust and hope in manuals to change what you experience when you walk through the Church doors.  It doesn’t matter what manual is used in the Church.  The manual will never be a substitute for real teachers.  When you are not the one teaching, I encourage you to make comments, say what you really believe and really think (unless you are one of those people who shouldn’t say anything during lessons and you know who you are).

  • http://timesandseasons.org Ben S

    Some excellent thoughts here, Aquinas, and some good humor as well. Thanks.

    I’ve encountered three high-intellectual-capital people recently who have expressed dissatisfaction with the manuals, and two of them helped write them: Dan Peterson (his Mormon Matters podcast, partial transcript about the manual section somewhere on the blogs), Duane Jeffrey (I think, in the Mormon Matters evolution podcast), and Terryl Givens, in the Mormon Stories podcast.

  • http://www.smallsimple.wordpress.com Eric Nielson

    I quite like the gospel principles manual. I always have. I have particularly enjoyed teaching it in the new member/investigators classes – where everything is new. I think the presidents of the church manuals are about the same.

    I uses the manual as a rough guide. I try to pull an interesting point or paragraph out and generate a discussion. I try to ask a couple of my own difficult questions based on the topic. The good lessons are the ones where the discussion gets people going and thinking a little bit, and I just let the discussion ring. The manual has little or nothing to do with that.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    As I sat through a RS lesson last week, I tried to analyze why the lesson wasn’t working. The teacher was organized, prepared and knew her stuff; she stayed with the topic of the lesson and drew on material from the manual without slavishly following it or mechanically reading it; she quoted scripture and had us read scripture; her voice was dynamic; she jotted keywords and drew diagrams on the board; she asked us for experiences and listened to answers, commenting appropriately. She referred to teaching this lesson as a missionary, and I could easily imagine her as a very effective missionary … and then I realized what the problem was. She was teaching the lesson as a missionary, as if we were investigators and this were the first time any of us had ever heard those ideas. It was the most basic lesson on the plan of salvation, with emphasis on the degrees of glory. It was basically a data dump of data already dumped, tested by rote questions with standard answers.

    I thought back over the past two years, too, and recalled other lessons that hadn’t worked for exactly the same reason: the Word of Wisdom lesson was especially bad — we were told about avoiding tobacco and alcohol as if that were the first time we had ever heard of that expectation; the lesson on prayer was a basic missionary lesson on the standard parts of a standard prayer with a review of the grammar of thee and thou; and so on.

    In other words, while the material was just fine, and while the teachers were great in one respect, they failed in another, most basic respect: they were teaching data and not teaching people, not thinking about what we needed, or why the principles should matter to us, or how those principles could improve our lives or devotion, or how we had grown by absorbing those ideas since the first time we had heard them, or anything at all beyond conveying basic data as if it were all brand new to us. And I recalled other teachers, not just with this manual but in Sunday School, especially, who teach as though “gospel doctrine” were reducible to a defined set of facts to be memorized and repeated at four-year intervals — and it’s hard as a class member to do anything about that when the teacher calls for rote answers and doesn’t give an opening for anything else.

    You really hit the nail with this. The manuals are not entirely at fault (I won’t let them off the hook entirely because I don’t think they *have* to be so monotonous) — it comes down to teaching, and teachers who will think not only about the rote facts listed in a manual, but also about the class members and our lives and needs and experiences, and who can get class members to engage with gospel concepts by teaching the people where we are, not as automatons.

  • http://bit.ly/hwsarc Mike Parker

    Just this last Sunday I was surprised to find that the Gospel Doctrine manual’s last lesson on Revelation includes Bruce R. McConkie’s interpretation of the four horsemen (the white horse is Enoch, the red horse is evil in times of Noah, etc.), even though Joseph Smith specifically taught that the horsemen were not things in John’s past (TPJS 290). I pointed this out in class and nearly derailed the teacher’s entire lesson.

    What should one do when the lesson manual is just flat-out wrong?

  • Craig L. Foster

    I think you made an excellent point. A lot does depend on theteacher and how she or he are interpreting and teaching the lesson. I taught priesthood these last two years and just recently a fellow priesthood member was surprised when i told him that with pretty much every lesson between 1/3 and 1/2 of the lesson involves my own questions, quotes and information. Basically my take and my interests. That, of course, can be both good and bad.

  • http://www.lifeongoldplates.com/ BHodges

    Interesting thoughts, aqui. I really appreciate it. On the whole, though, I do place a bit of blame on the manuals as well, recognizing that there aren’t a surplus of teachers who “wrestle” with the material as you do. As in Ardis’s description, more often they simply get “the facts” and then relate them to us with a few leading questions packed along the way and a few extra GA quotes on printed handouts. I get massively bored in Sunday School on a regular basis, and not because I wish we were analyzing various Christologies or something, but because we aren’t challenged at all. At all! If all SS teachers were like unto Aquinas! haha

  • http://www.lifeongoldplates.com/ BHodges

    Perhaps part of the problem is that we can’t do a major course correction in the various ideas/doctrines/historical examples used in the manuals (or added into lessons by thoughtful teachers) without some folks recognizing that a shift has occurred. People who want more rigorous historical information, for instance, have to keep in mind the members who would be shocked to hear someone say Joseph likely used the Masonic distress call at the martyrdom. Givens points to the issue of trust in Church history, but a correction there could just as likely breed a bit more distrust as much as it may help in the long run.

  • CC

    While I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here, let’s not forget that a side effect of correlation is the “stick to the manual” culture. What you are saying here is that you don’t have to stick to the manual, but how many teachers are told not to stray from them? The Gospel Principles manual itself says: “If you have been called to teach a quorum or class using this book, do not substitute outside materials, however interesting they might be. Stay true to the scriptures and the words in the book. As appropriate, use personal experiences and articles from Church magazines to supplement the lessons.”

    THAT is the problem. Any great teacher can make a terribly written manual sing . . . but not if he or she is shackled to the manual and the manual alone.

  • http://timesandseasons.org Ben S

    CC, I think really depends on how local authorities interpret that directive. I certainly don’t bring in outside materials, but there’s plenty in the scriptures to talk about.
    The question is, how much must one simply parrot the manual? How bright and narrow are the lines?

    There’s conflicting guidance on this, as TT has pointed out, and I discussed here.
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/oneeternalround/2010/10/thoughts-on-wrestling-with-lesson-prep-the-manual-and-teaching-the-teachers/

  • DavidH

    I concur with CC. I have noticed in the last few years an increased emphasis at the local level to insist that teachers not stray from the manual. I have noticed more and more teachers, presumably to avoid straying from the manual, who pretty follow the manual almost verbatim–same examples, same attention getting activity, same questions. I have heard local leaders criticize a relief society teacher for starting with a story from television that people were familiar with–why, because it was from a noncorrelated source. I am glad Aquinus and others are in places where local leaders do not insist on slavishly following the manual. Of course, given the instruction to which CC refers, I understand why local leaders feel that obligation. Once correlation reaches its peak of perfection, I suppose we will have an interactive computer program that will teach the lessons around the world on the same day. Then we can truly say that the Church is the same no matter where we go in the world.

  • Kevin Barney

    I agree that the teacher can make or break the lesson irrespective of the manual (although those manuals from the 50s and 60s were indeed way better than what we have to work with today post-correlation).

    But, as you alluded to, the class itself also makes a big difference. I’ve enjoyed most of these lessons, because my HPG has a bunch of crotchety old men who don’t take any crap, who are old skool, are willing to disagree about things, with lots of ball breaking humor in the mix. We have some great discussions, because these guys have been around the block enough that they’re secure in their Mormonism and not threatened by the occasional argument or disagreement. Those lessons are rarely boring, and I actually get a lot out of them. If everyone just sits there passively afraid to say anything for fear of saying the wrong thing, it’s just not gonna work.

  • SmallAxe

    Here’s a related discussion from a while ago: http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2008/10/who-is-correlation/

  • http://timesandseasons.org Ben S
  • http://latterdayspence.blogspot.com Clean Cut

    Really enjoyed this post, and totally agree with you. I missed much of this manual while in primary, but the last few weeks I’ve been back and tried to “make those comments, say what (I) really believe and really think” and ask the really big and honest questions. And the teacher has been grateful–even saying it’s “transformed” the class. I don’t share that to sound to boast, cause I realize it doesn’t sound modest, but it’s been a huge observation.

    So I guess I’ve learned that regardless of the state of the manuals or the topic of the lesson, I think “artful and committed” participants are almost as essential as “artful and committed” teachers. It’s deepened my commitment to not allow myself (or the class) to settle for a sub-par or un-engaging experience. The right question or honest comment can help spark that engagement, even when it initially looks hopeless.

  • http://rameumptom.weebly.com Rameumptom

    Aquinas, I also struggle with the manuals. In the end, after determining my audience, I’ll often use the chapter heading, and develop the lesson myself from the scriptures or topic suggested.

    The lessons have little continuity, little connection. What good is talking about tithing to high priests from the manual? They already know that 10 cents of every dollar = tithe. What they need to discuss must be developed by the teacher – how tithing ties into the law of consecration and the atonement of Christ, etc.

    It does not require speculation, as we had prior to correlation. It means we must refocus each topic so as to transform the listeners and the teacher. Sadly, we fall very short as teachers, because unlike me with a MA in Teaching, most members really have not been taught to be teachers nor gospel scholars. And both are necessary in order to be the type of teacher Elder Holland wants us to be. I once heard him say we need to light our pulpits on fire. I agree with him. They are not set afire by speculation. But neither are they set afire by following the manuals, or reading an Ensign article to the Sacrament meeting congregation. It is not an overnight fix.
    Sadly, our teacher prep classes usually are taught by someone who has no real clue how to teach or inspire others to seek to become gospel scholars. Perhaps for most, they need to leave the manual behind, and use personal experiences to share their testimonies, then sit down.
    While the manuals are not THE problem, they are a symptom of the problem pervasive in much Church teaching today.

  • Trevor Price

    BHodges, don’t you think that we should be exploring ways to move into an age when it won’t be shocking for members to find out that Joseph’s last words were a masonic cry for help? It seems like there’s tons of little factual tidbits that are considered “off limits”, regardless of how truly significant they are in the grand scheme of things. I’d like to see classroom discussion and church curriculum improve to a point where that’s not a problem.

    I think a lot of the people in this forum are quite capable of bringing us to that point, at least from the classroom side of things.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    I’ve long said that Church correlation is a lot like eating at McDonald’s: You can go anywhere in the world and be absolutely certain that you’ll be served the same bland, mass-produced food.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    I’m happy to see so many thoughtful comments.

    Ben S ~ I particularly enjoyed the Terryl Givens interview and I’m rather surprised more people haven’t quoted his statement about the manuals as being “deplorable.”

    Eric ~ “I try to ask a couple of my own difficult questions based on the topic. The good lessons are the ones where the discussion gets people going and thinking a little bit, and I just let the discussion ring. The manual has little or nothing to do with that.” I really like what you are saying here. I think all teachers need to come up with their own tailor-made questions. I really believe thoughtful and well-crafted questions make the difference. Certainly I’ve used questions from the manual that I also wanted to ask, but I find nothing wrong with spending time in thinking of a good question.

    Ardis ~ “they were teaching data and not teaching people, not thinking about what we needed, or why the principles should matter to us, or how those principles could improve our lives or devotion, or how we had grown by absorbing those ideas since the first time we had heard them.” Well said. I think the situation you describe happens all too often. Teaching is not simply a “data dump” as you say, or merely transmission of information (or even making sure all the saints are on the same page), and that is where I think there can be problems. This is also why I cringe when I hear instructors talk about “going through the manual.” For me, the goal isn’t to “get through the manual” or “cover the manual” or “get through the lesson.” The goal is to teach, and especially to evaluate how those principles have mattered to us through the years we’ve embraced them. I’ve greatly benefited from those kinds of discussions. And sometimes it really can be just a small change in focus that really can make all the difference. Thanks for the comment.

    Mike Parker ~ It’s a judgment call. When I’m not the teacher and I’m a participant, there are many times I decide it would derail and distract from a lesson to point something out (even though I’m big on honesty, I also respect the fact that someone else is teaching and try to be sensitive to boundaries). Sometimes I’ve spoken out, sometimes I’ve decided to pick my battles and remember that we only have a limited amount of social capital. We only want to spend it on things that really matter. Be wise when choosing to interject. Sometimes, however, one can carefully point out what a passage of scripture means to him or her (our experience), and we can often get the same results, without drawing attention to our comment or backing a teacher into a corner. It’s trial and error.

    Craig ~ As in my comment to Eric, I think the question is really where its at. The question is everything. The answer is really less important, because everyone must decide for themselves what the gospel means to them and how they want to live it. My role as a teacher is to get people to ask the right questions. How they choose to answer them, that’s their journey, not mine. A great teacher helps us to know what questions we should be asking.

    BHodges ~ Thanks for the comments. I really have no answer when the teacher fails to inspire, other than to contribute as a participant and to speak out. I know for me it’s worked wonders. But as to your comment, I just pick and choose my battles. For example, making sure members understand Joseph made a Masonic distress call, is not a battle I would choose, as the devotional pay-off is probably not much. But there are times when I am a very impassioned teacher who advocates for a particular focus in a devotional setting. It’s a judgment call. But I use who I am all the time. I can’t help that I’m interested in Church history and I put things into a historical context all the time when I teach. No one has ever complained about that.

    CC, Ben S and DavidH ~ You raise an interesting question. Personally, I don’t see myself as advocating that we don’t have to “stick to the manual.” Rather I see myself as trying to send the message that, despite problems with the manual, the main problem is not with the manuals. Teachers should never be thinking in their minds “I have to stick to the manual! I have to stick to the manual.” I would much rather have teachers be thinking “What do we need to hear? What challenges do we face? What does my class need? What experiences can I share? What is important about this topic?” In all honesty, I think when people enjoy and are challenged by a topic, they could care less about how you got there. If people are complaining about someone not sticking to the manual, it just means they didn’t like the lesson. That’s all it means. No one ever says “Man, I loved the lesson, I was inspired, I was challenged, it really made me think, but you didn’t stick to the manual and I’m reporting you to the Bishop.”

    I had an instructor once talk about how it is doctrine that Paul is married and it is unquestionable. I think he didn’t stuck to the manual, but I didn’t appreciate how he dogmatically asserted the point as he actually read from Mormon Doctrine’s Celibacy entry, and more over he ignored a fellow who wanted to point out 1 Corinthians 7:8. Now, there are ways he could have introduced the idea (it wasn’t even important to the topic at all) that would have been less offensive. But if he would have, without reading Mormon Doctrine, suggested non-dogmatically that some people believe Paul was married, (and assuming this was relevant for the lesson), then I would have been completely fine with it.

    More than anything, however, if we just wanted the manuals to do all the work, we would just play the MP3 version of the lesson in front of the class. But we don’t. We call real live human beings because we want a human being to teach. Be a human being. That’s what I’m saying.

    Kevin Barney ~ Thanks for the comment. And I imagine it takes a great teacher to be able to not let “a bunch of crotchety old men who don’t take any crap” dominate or run away with the lesson. I think a great teacher can channel that energy in constructive ways, but I’ve also seen teachers who tend to be like floor mats and just let passionate a domineering voices walk all over them. Both rowdy and passive or apathetic classes pose problems for the teacher. Each pose different challenges for the teacher.

    I do think disputation can be useful. Sometimes we tend to avoid it because of the overwhelming idea that having the Spirit in our classes means there is no contention. I think that is a problem for constructive learning. But it sounds like you don’t have that problem!

    Small Axe and Ben S ~ Thanks for the links!

    Clean Cut ~ I’m really glad to hear of your experiences. Let’s face it, we are all participants much more often than we are teachers. Sometimes it really just takes one great question or comment by a participant to lead to a great and engaging discussion.

  • Adam Miller

    Nice, Aquinas.

  • http://newcoolthang.com Matt W.

    I started out thinking I would never use this manual. And I was wrong. I was released from YM and asked to teach EQ this year. One major surprise to me has been how little I have used the manual. Going over my lesson notes, I have quoted the manual twice in the last year in terms of information, and only used it’s questions in one lesson. I am not sure why that is. I can honestly say some of my lessons were complete crashes (like the one where I spent most of the lesson going over the doctrine of adoption when I was supposed to be talking about eternal families), and some of the topics have amazed me, as to their doctrinal depth.

    All in all, I enjoyed using this manual more than the teaching of the presidents manuals because I felt I had the right to ignore it and go my own way. I didn’t feel required to shoehorn Wilford Woodruff into the conversation.

  • Jenny

    This is a nice summary of some things wrong with current lessons in church.
    Some people are naturally good teachers, can handle comments and promote discussion, but they are few and far between. In my ward, we have a capable sunday school teacher and interactive class, and appalling (rote, lecture) RS teachers and quiet class. Part of the problem is that there is little to no training offered to members in how to be a good teacher. We are afraid to offend someone else, to point out the “mote in their eye”, but we cannot improve without feedback. The removal of the “teaching improvement coordinator” calling and putting that responsibility onto SS, auxilliary, quorum presidency, seems a backwards step. Basic ideas (listed in “Teaching No Greater Call”) are a great place to start, but even these basics – ask question, pause to wait for an answer, are being ignored. AARGH!

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Great comments. So much to consider here.

    Rameumptom ~ “It means we must refocus each topic so as to transform the listeners and the teacher.” Yes, I think this is the vision. Teaching should change lives. That doesn’t mean we have delusions of grandeur that the thirty minutes we spend on Sunday is going to change the world. It means that we are keenly aware that the thirty minutes we spend on Sunday has the potential to change the lives of those we teach. We’ve all been impacted by a great teacher in our life. It only takes moments for a disaster to take place in a person’s life, and miracles happen too, in a moment.

    Sometimes the class member who says nothing the whole class is the one who is thinking and pondering and who was touched to make some decision they’ve been putting off who is the beneficiary. I’ve seen it happen.

    You’ve raised the issue of training. Naturally, this is a topic that comes up often. All these ideas: improving who is called to teach, training teachers, getting better manuals, are part of a total prescription that many people propose or think are good ideas for improving teaching in the Church.

    I think many members are hesitant to discuss training. There seems to be the idea, among some, that all people really need to do is have the Spirit and that this is the solution to everything.

    I think training is critical but I also think we often fail to appreciate how things are learned in the Church. We really do learn by example and we learn by watching others. Children and adults learn to give talks in Church by imitating each other. They learn the cultural scripts. They learn they need to tell a joke at the beginning or they learn they should explain how they tried to avoid the calling to speak in sacrament meeting, or they learn they are supposed to talk about how they met their husband, not from a training meeting or a manual, but they learned it from the cultural environment, by imitation. People learn how to perform their callings, not by reading the handbook, but by doing what their dad did, or brother did, or best friend did. We learn in the Church by imitation. I’m not saying this is always a good thing, but I do feel this is often the reality. Therefore, every lesson we teach is not just a lesson about a particular subject matter, but a lesson about how to teach. As prideful as it might sound, every lesson I teach is designed to be an example of how to teach. The more examples of careful and committing teaching the better. And how did I learn about teaching? By excellent and committed teachers who opened my eyes to the possibilities in teaching. It’s the pay it forward principle.

    Adam Miller ~ Thanks!

    Matt W ~ I know for me in my preparation I read the manual several times over and I selected and chose from it things that I felt were valuable but I left things out if I didn’t feel it was the right focus for my class. I also liked the opportunity to spend an entire class on one particular topic. I admit I had people read from the manual, or I chose people with great voices to read from the manual, at certain points, but I designed my own questions such as “Why do you feel the leaders decided they should add this paragraph to the revised manual?” That was my sneaky way of starting a discussion, without passing judgement on the passage, but it worked like magic.

    One of the good things about the Gospel Principles manual is that most people never read it. Everyone thought they already knew what the manual said, so they didn’t bother to look at it. I used that in ways to my advantage in how I approached the topic.

    Jenny ~ Thank you for your comments. At least from what I’ve been told from many others, and my own experiences, I do think that people are afraid to offer feedback. Although I often feel the fear is warranted. I’ve heard horror stories of feedback poorly given to a RS instructor (before she even went home) by a RS president, which was devastating, and which resulted in the newly called instructor asking to be released. If feedback is to be given it must be given carefully.

    Personally, what I do is seek feedback from members in my class who I have a good relationship with. I will call after my lesson and ask them how it looked from their perspective, I did I miss anything, did I ignore anyone, did they feel I appreciated their comments, etc. They help me be a better instructor. But I do feel the best feedback I get, is from my own observations. A good teacher knows when he or she has crashed and burned (when no one else will tell them). I know when I’ve lectured too much or wasn’t focused or when I tried to do so much. I continually use my lessons as a feedback loop for the next teaching moment. So I completely agree with you that feedback is crucial, but I also am painfully aware of the pain and carnage that can occur when feedback is given without wisdom and order.

    It’s sometimes difficult to offer a diagnosis for lessons gone bad. I’m inclined to believe that looking towards Teacher Training to solve our problems is not an approach I would take, even though I firmly believe in training and have given teacher training before. Some of the reasons are that the teachers and instructors who need the most hope almost never attend that meeting. The only ones who attend are those who are passionate about teaching and who are desirous to work on the art of teaching. Not that this is bad, but it frustrates the goal of trying to correct poor teaching via the vehicle of teacher training.

    Second, the needs of a classroom are infinitely varied and its difficult to offer needs that help everyone. I recommend the “Teaching No Greater Call” manual as well. (I feel this is probably one of the better written manuals in the Church’s entire history of writing manuals). I think this is one of the reason for more localized training, although as you point out, it is not without its own problems.

    Let’s face it, one of the problems is just that the people who make decisions regarding teacher callings have a limited group of people available from which to choose. There will always be surplus positions and simply not enough people available to fill them. That’s the reality of a lay ministry. I think most of us realize this. And the solutions I want to suggest begin with the individual. I have full control over how I teach and how I participate in class. I have no control over how the ward or stake decides to direct teacher training, on who is selected as a teacher, on the content of manuals, etc. I’m always going to advocate focusing on the things we can control over the things we cannot.

  • Kerry A. Shirts

    I taught for the first time in over a couple years, the final lesson on exaltation today. I read the first page of the manual, then shared how the 4 subjects, The Council of the Gods, The Pre-Mortal Existence of all of us, the anthropomorphic character and nature of God, and the deification of humankind are all topics which Joseph and Hyrum were murdered for teaching, and now Biblical scholarship has been giving masters degrees and doctorate degrees to students writing on these topics of our doctrine of exaltation. I shared some ideas from the Books of Enoch, The Gospel of Thomas, the Kabbalah, and showed them my stack of hundreds of articles on the Council of the Gods. I shared the translation of a text which Biblical scholars Frank Moore Cross, Jr., and Mark S. Smith showing El’s wives (note the plural!) were bragging about the size of his penis (uh, THAT is graphically anthropomorphic if nothing else is, showing God has a body!), how the Council of the Gods were all of us as part of God’s eternal family (he was married forever to his wife – wives, depending on which text is being translated, and how Theosis (mankind becoming divine) is now commanding many HUNDREDS (literally!) of Masters and Doctorate degrees. The class went very well, and I had a lot of requests for more of this info. Everyone seemed to have enjoyed the astonishing view that NOW Biblical scholarship in some respects is teaching “Mormonism.” Until they quit asking me to teach, I will always bring out powerful information the manuals leave alone. And they KNOW I do this, and still ask me to teach, so, there ya have it……..

  • Kerry A. Shirts

    And……. here are the videos (an hour total) in 2 parts on my Priesthood lesson which I recorded earlier this week so you can catch the gist of what I taught. I am so tired of the banal and boring, which has replaced the great and exciting about the Gospel. Yes it is marvelous we have 300,000 converts a year. What sucks is that 300,000 also leave the church. The stagnation, I firmly believe, is because we have made the Gospel of God boring. UGH! It is SO uncalled for! Watch the 2 part videos and see why exaltation is SERIOUSLY a most marvelous subject to learn about. And…..I promise, I could produce another 100 videos giving the details to this.

  • Kerry A. Shirts

    Part 2, I thought it would give the link to my You Tube site, but it didn’t. I have had MANY wonderful comments, likes, and emails telling me THANK YOU for sharing such wonderful stuff. If it’s wonderful, it’s because that’s what the Gospel is, is WONDERFUL. Enjoy…

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    And … you did all that in 45 minutes today? What and how much do you think the average member of your quorum will remember a week from now? Just askin’.

  • Kerry A. Shirts

    I believe they each got something out of this that they will NEVER forget again……at least from their reaction to the lesson……. and their comments, and their asking me to share more with them as they gave me their emails. And their wondering how come this stuff isn’t taught more, etc., and etc.

  • http://rameumptom.weebly.com Rameumptom

    Kerry,
    You must really have changed over the years. First, you giving any lecture in 45 minutes just seems so…. unnatural.

    Second, that you shared things on a level they could understand without an interpreter just seems so…. unnatural.

    In a priesthood lesson for the high priests, I may go into some non-scriptural stuff, but not too much in-depth. Instead, I would refer them that are interested to my blog, etc., afterward. Of course, when someone has great thirst, most teachers and the manual usually cannot quench that thirst. And when Kerry Shirts teaches a thirsty man, he turns on the fire hose….

  • Raymond Takashi Swenson

    Hugh Nibley’s book Lehi in the Desert was a Melchizedek Priesthood manual. We could do worse than picking a book published by FARMS compiling scholarly literature on the Book of Mormon. But I am guessing the Brethren are more concerned with the teachers in smaller and newer branches and wards in countries where the Church is growing faster and the depth of personal study is less. Those of us who grew up attending BYU and Institute and can buy FARMS books can apply that added knowledge to the bare armature of the lesson manuals and make them intetesting to our peers. Besides, translating some of those FARMS research papers into dozens of languages would be much more of a challenge and could create all sorts of misunderstandings in the course of the normal translation process. Thus the use of the Ensign and Liahona as the primary supplement to manuals points to material that is already widely translated and accessible, rather than give members in other countries the sense they are missing something esssential.

  • http://www.approachingjustice.wordpress.com Chris H.

    “Hugh Nibley’s book Lehi in the Desert was a Melchizedek Priesthood manual.”

    Yes, but that was before correlation.

    Sigh.

  • Clark

    I think the “quotes out of context” is exaggerated a little bit. Read even your typically contemporary conference talk and it’s pretty easy to select a paragraph and use it correctly. Go back to the 19th century or early 20th and it seems to me talks were much more “scattered” in theme. Long before these priesthood manuals there were collections of snippets arranged thematically. Consider Discourses of Brigham Yong for instance. I’ve looked up quite a few of the quotes and I don’t think contextualizes changes things too terribly often. I’m pretty skeptical of that with the Priesthood manuals as well.

    All that said I do find the Presidents manuals pretty hard to teach. That’s because I’m never sure if the focus is on the gospel as seen through those figures (say akin to the Sunday School lessons about the scriptures) or if the focus should just be on the themes. The Gospel Principles manual probably was better in that regard.

    I think a lot of people just want longer themed lessons. However I’m pretty skeptical that would improve things. I remember the manuals from the 70′s and early 80′s. If you folks think that was a golden age I think you’re mistaken. More typical was people struggling teaching with those. I can’t imagine how the typical member would try to deal with teaching from a Nibley book. While the President manuals are hard to teach from I still am convinced the main issue is how good the teachers are. Think through that more typical third of teachers who would struggle even more with the manuals you might like.

  • Clark

    A few other comments.

    Mike (4) Why do you assume Joseph’s exegesis of the four horsemen is the only correct one? I’m not defending McConkie here or the manual. But it seems that one can make a defense on McConkie’s reading based upon Joseph’s claim that the seals each represent one of the earlier 1000 year periods. (D&C 77:7) It seems to me McConkie is just privileging the canonized commentary of Joseph on the passages as opposed to the non-Canonized ones

    TPJS 290 says,

    Now, I make this declaration, that those things which John saw in heaven had no allusion to anything that had been on the earth previous to that time, because they were the representation of “things which must shortly come to pass,” and not of what has already transpired. John saw beasts that had to do with things on the earth, but not in past ages. The beasts which John saw had to devour the inhabitants of the earth in days to come. “And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, come and see. And I saw, and beheld a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another; and there was given unto him a great sword.” (Rev. 6:1, 2, 3, 4.) The book of Revelation is one of the plainest books God ever caused to be written.

    The revelations do not give us to understand anything of the past in relation to the kingdom of God. What John saw and speaks of were things which he saw in heaven; those which Daniel saw were on and pertaining to the earth.

    I think it’s clear that Joseph is moving towards more of a Preterist view – which is the most common way to read Revelation. Trying to reconcile the above to D&C 77 is difficult at best though.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    Clark #32: I’m not presuming Joseph’s is the only correct interpretation. I’m merely pointing out that McConkie’s interpretation conflicts with Joseph’s, which is suprising for someone who was so well-versed in Joseph’s teachings and tried to be faithful to them (as he interepreted them). That the Church curriculum department would follow McConkie’s interpretation is not unusual, but interesting in light of what Joseph said. One would think they would prefer Joseph to BRM.

    My own exegesis of Revelation 6 and D&C 77 is that the seals represent dispensations, but what John saw as each seal was opened was not representative of the contents of that seal. In other words, the first seal represented the first 1,000 years of the earth’s temporal existence, but the white horse did not represent the historical events of that seal. The horsemen are more likely the same as the four angels of Revelation 7:1 and the four chariots of Zechariah 6:1–6.

    My full analysis is available here (see notes, pages 4–6):

    http://sites.google.com/site/hwsarc/home/nt/week28

  • Clark

    Yes – that’s the only way to reconcile it. But I confess it doesn’t make much sense to me as why they are in each seal must have some significance. (maybe I’m missing something obvious) I find the simpler explanation is that Joseph just changed his mind.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    Clark #34: I’m not sure if you read the notes I linked in my last comment (#33), but in them I provide what I believe is a coherent interpretation.

    Keep in mind that the “book” that God is holding is a scroll, not a codex. The contents of the scroll cannot be read until all seven seals are removed and the scroll is opened. So it doesn’t make any sense for the first seal to reveal a vision of a specific time, because no one would be able to read it just with the removal of one seal.

    Also, the KJV command to “come and see” (presumably the contents of the scroll as the seal is removed) is actually based on the KJV’s late and inferior manuscripts. The command is actually “come!”, which is issued to the horsemen who are sent forth on their assignments.

    McConkie’s interpretation doesn’t make sense (at least to me) in the broader context of the horsemen, the scroll, and the other passages I noted above.

  • Clark

    Right – I got that from your notes. I just don’t see how that explains the emphasis D&C 77 gives the seals nor what is unveiled with that seal. You make a distinction between the seal and what is sealed. But what is the significance of what is revealed as the first seal is opened? That is what is the significance of what is unsealed? Your interpretation suggests there is no significance whatsoever which seems hard to accept.

  • http://bit.ly/hwsarc Mike Parker

    Of course I think there’s a significance. As the seals are opened, God sends forth his servants to prepare the world for judgment.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    For those interested in a summary of sample Church manuals, please see my post: What Can Lesson Manuals Teach Us? Voices from the Dusty Bookshelf.

    For example, I wouldn’t necessarily say that Hugh Nibley’s manual was before “Correlation.” The story Nibley and Peterson tell is that the Committee was instrumental in preventing Nibley from writing the kind of manual that we wanted to write. In his frustration Nibley wrote: “The committee knows best, but this is certainly the last thing I will ever write for the church.” (Peterson, p. 9.)

    In addition, I don’t think the problem is with the manuals not being sufficiently complex. We simply cannot judge the actual experience of early classrooms just by knowing what the manual was. Sure, we might say that Talmage’s Jesus the Christ was once used as a manual, but that gives us very little to zero knowledge of what it was like to attend a particular class that was assigned that manual. Or take Nibley’s manual above, even if Nibley was successful at getting his manual through the Committee, that doesn’t automatically translate into a great lesson. Why? Because the teacher is the gatekeeper of the lesson. Some teachers may have chosen to ignore Nibley’s wonderful manual. Others may have used it in ways that Nibley didn’t intend or just selected parts here or there that ultimately didn’t really “move mountains” as Nibley hoped it would.

    Read this for example:

    “By their very nature the facts found have not lent themselves to too great a simplification. The priesthood quorums for the past three years have struggled with these lessons. Some of them put themselves in the spirit of the researcher and have succeeded in getting the greatest benefit therefrom. . . . Others have struggled without getting so deeply into the spirit in which this great work entitled The Divine Church was written. It has been a subject that could not be mastered without effort. Let me say it was not written without effort. There seems to be a relationship between the effort of the author and that required by the student to master the course. Others, we are advised, fell by the wayside and substituted other courses more to their individual liking. They have not prepared themselves to meet these issues so vital and current today in our intercourse with our fellow men in spreading the light which is ours among our neighbors at home and abroad. . . . The very fact that these three volumes of Elder Barker’s on The Divine Church were not as simple as some desired is added reason why we should read them a second time, and those in the meantime who have been advanced Into the Melchizedek Priesthood, or who have returned from the forces or from missions or both, might have the benefit of them for the first time. We advocate very seriously a first reading of these manuals by all who have not already mastered them. The dividends to be received from a study such as suggested, are certain, not alone in qualifying us to teach others, but above all to give to each of us a broader foundation of knowledge upon which our own faith may rest. We never lose sight in all our class-work and study of the fact that the glory of God is intelligence.” Elder Henry D. Moyle, Conference Report, October 1954, Afternoon Meeting, p.34-35

    As you can see, the manual above was James Louis Barker’s three volume work “Apostasy from the Divine Church” the Melchizedek priesthood manual from 1952 to 1954. Here we are 60 years later and still we struggle with the classroom. We make manuals complicated and we still have problems. We make manuals really simple and we still have problems. While some might be impressed with the ambitious design of Barker’s manual, in reality some classes merely disregarded that manual (like they do today). This is why I argue that in many cases, the manual has nothing to do with, and is entirely irrelevant to what actually happens during the 30-45 minutes that people are attending a class.

    As an instructor, I’m always considering venue and purpose. Some people naturally are thirsty for more academic studies of the scriptural texts and ancient world. There is nothing from stopping people from studying these things in their own time, or reading a book on the subject or (if they have the means and are so inclined) from taking a university course. However, many people who attend church could really care less about Egyptian parallels to the temple or they simply are not motivated in any way shape or form by religious parallels. Some people find a kind of vindication of their beliefs by parallels, but others do not. This is why the teacher or instructor needs to know the people in their class and the purpose for those 30-45 minutes. I see part of the purpose of lessons within the Church setting as a a time to study things as a body of saints, as a group, and I see value in studying and exploring the gospel as a group.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    Bravo, aquinas, for both content and tact.

  • Hemi

    Mike- #17

    “I’ve long said that Church correlation is a lot like eating at McDonald’s: You can go anywhere in the world and be absolutely certain that you’ll be served the same bland, mass-produced food.”

    But Mike, the real reason that McDonalds food is bland is that their employees lack culinary skills. The real problem is those lazy, worthless employees. There are some employees in the franchise that are able to produce culinary works of art, but most of them are lackadaisical and poorly prepared and just serve big macs. You don’t have to just serve big macs; you can take the ingredients and make them into something wonderful (as long as your manager isn’t looking). If only all McDonalds employees could be professional chefs, that would certainly solve the problem.

  • http://www.approachingjustice.wordpress.com Chris H.

    aquinas,

    I have to second Ardis. As I read your response comment this morning, I was struck by your mixture of intelligence and charity. Bravo, indeed.

    You are correct that there has always been some form of correlation. I also think that most people on the Bloggernacle who use Nibley, use him grossly wrong. So, I think he would be a disaster for as a manual…though I would get a kick out of it.

    Instead of having Nibley and Bennion write manuals, I just splash my lesson with Nibley and Bennion….and Aristotle…and Kant….and Pink Floyd.

    This comments was written at McDonalds. Seriously.

  • Clark

    Mike, I guess I’m asking what is the significance of that symbol coming out at that seal.

  • Clark

    Well said Aquinas. I think too many judge manuals based upon whether they’d enjoy reading them.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    Clark #43: Why does the vision that John sees at the open of each seal have to be directly connected to the seal itself?

  • http://mormonmentatlity.org a random John

    I nominate Mike’s #17 for a Niblet. I think that encapsulates so much of what is both wrong and right about the manuals and correlation.

    And aquinas, great post. I have been in Deacon’s quorum for the last several years and have only attended EQ when asked to teach, so I don’t have much perspective on how the rehashing of GP with the general membership has gone.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    Hemi #40: I’m not certain if you’re joking or being serious. As a brief response, I’d say that the problem with the food at McDonald’s is not the employees, but the system. The McDonald’s business model is based around low price, speedy service, and adequate quality at the expense of great taste and quality. No one eats at McDonald’s expecting a gourmet experience.

    Likewise, correlation is based around some key principles: Standardization of message, ease of delivery for teachers at all skill levels, and ease of participation for students at all experience levels. There is a cost associated with that, and it’s the depth of the lesson material and engagement of more experienced students.

    The Church will never be able to produce lesson materials that are equally adapted to everyone. They have to target the largest group of members, so the materials tend toward the lowest common denominator.

    The same complaint has been made about the quality of the articles in the Ensign: Some of us who remember the 1970s and -80s recall with fondness longer, deeper, more intellectually-engaging material. Since the 1990s the editors have gone for shorter articles that target societal problems. I stopped complaining about it when I realized that helping people cope with divorce or spousal abuse is more important than the latest research into the NHM altar and how it relates to Lehi’s journey.

  • Hemi

    Mike,

    Mike,
    I was joking, kind of…
    I don’t think the problem with McDonalds is the employees, and I don’t think that the problem with curriculum is the teachers. I know some teachers that seem to be able to work miracles with poor lesson materials, but many can’t, and it is frustrating to me when I hear people blaming poor lessons on the teachers. I see people that I love struggle every sunday as they try to understand the scriptures, the history, and the teachings of the prophets. I realize that preparing material for a worldwide organization is likely an impossible job, and there are many things that complicate the implementation of a worldwide curriculum. But I have to admit that I feel awful prickly when I hear what I think are suggestions that the reason church lessons are lacking is because of the teaching skills of the members. They haven’t been given much to work with. That said, I don’t really think that in-depth scholarly material is the best approach for devotional lessons, but it would be nice to see the fundamentalism weeded out of the curriculum. I really appreciate your lessons as they do a great job of that. Last sunday a great deal of our lesson on Revelation consisted of reading the Bible dictionary, which is based on a 100+ year old protestant dictionary. It’s like giving people a Model T and then complaining that they don’t drive fast enough on the interstate, so it must be the drivers fault.

  • http://bit.ly/ldsarc Mike Parker

    Hemi #47: “It’s like giving people a Model T and then complaining that they don’t drive fast enough on the interstate, so it must be the drivers fault.”

    Well said.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    I like Hemi’s analogy, too, except that I completely disagree with it. Well, not completely, but nearly. You can give those McDonald’s cooks all the finest ingredients in the world, and if all they bother to do with them is fry them and douse them in ketchup, we’d still have nothing but McDonald’s. That’s the fault of the cooks, not the ingredients.

    We’ve given our cooks/teachers the finest ingredients — the scriptures, with manuals that break them up into teachable chunks. We haven’t taught them to do anything with it all, though, so most just go the fried-and-ketchuped route, even though there are lots of cookbooks out there and lots of people to ask for help. If we sent everybody to culinary school and provided them with the best of recipes, most cooks would still run in just in time to punch the time clock and throw the stuff on the grill because they haven’t planned anything better, or because they slept through culinary class, or assume that since their customers ate the burgers last week, they don’t know any better and will eat the burgers again this week.

    It takes all three — ingredients, caring cooks, and training — to do anything better. The cooks are the weakest link, yet the only link with the power of self-improvement. If you have that responsibility, you don’t have to ask permission from anybody to engage in self-improvement, and you don’t have to wait for anybody to give you orders to start, either.

  • http://rameumptom.weebly.com Rameumptom

    Perhaps the first step is we have to stop thinking like we’re a McDonald’s franchise, and start thinking like Chez Edible. Or something in between.

    When the Church gives lip service to teaching: we hear about it in General Conference occasionally, but the concepts get boiled down to french fries and McGriddles by the time it gets to most Sunday School classes, it ends up making for one size fits all. And nowadays, the french fries aren’t even deep fried in coconut oil, so it loses a lot.

    Perhaps we need more than a Gospel Principles and Gospel Doctrine class. Maybe the Church needs to offer a few levels of manuals, which each unit can decide which levels to use, according to the needs of their members.

    Yes, we have the scriptures. Sadly, correlation has taught us not to rely much on scripture, and instead to rely on the manual. How many EQP and High Priest meetings just read through the lesson? We can’t teach from the scriptures, if we do not know them as teachers or students.

    I would prefer the Church give us a topic/theme for a lesson, 20-30 scriptures that tie in, and leave us to develop our own lesson from that alone. In that way, they are forced to learn the scriptures, forced to develop teaching skills (and increase use of Teaching No Greater Calling), and can teach it to the level of their class.

    That way, those who can only stand the milk of McDonald’s cheeseburgers can get it. Then Kerry Shirts can teach from the Kabbalah and scriptures in his high priest group, feeding raw chunks of meat to them in the backwoods of Idaho.

    Manuals could be very short, with two or three lessons per page. It would be easy for correlation to prepare such manuals. Perhaps they wouldn’t need so many on the payroll!

    As an aside, Daniel C Peterson once noted working on the New Testament lessons. He was assigned a passage in Acts, where Paul teaches for hours, a man falls asleep, falls from his perch and dies. As a joke, Bro Peterson decided to include questions that asked stuff like: “If you gave a talk so boring as to kill someone, how would you feel?”

    This passed all the way through correlation and was approved! He knew it shouldn’t be in the final manual, and so had it yanked before it went to press. But it shows that sometimes those making the manuals put as little thought into them as do those who teach from them….

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    The biggest problem with the McDonald’s analogy is that it simply isn’t true. It doesn’t hold for McDonald’s and it doesn’t hold for the Church. It simply isn’t the case that McDonald’s are exactly the same anywhere you go. McDonald’s in Japan is a rather completely different experience than McDonald’s in the states, including different items on the menu. Most importantly, the customer service is completely different.

    We’ve already seen from the various comments made in this thread and elsewhere that people’s experiences in Sunday School classes are, in fact, not the same. Again, it doesn’t matter if the church produces manuals that are standardized. That simply does not translate into identical classroom experiences. I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise. Rather, what we find is that there is a great deal of variation from stake to stake, ward to ward, class to class, and teacher to teacher. How do we explain this variation given that all the manuals are the same?

  • Mark D.

    I can’t say how opposed I am to the idea that gospel doctrine classes should be taught using resources outside the scriptures and other publications of the church. The mission of a Sunday School teacher is to teach the doctrines of the church, not academic scholarship or historical errata. The manuals are elementary to be sure, but the scriptures themselves are full of related material.

    How many members of the church do you suppose have ever read the New Testament or the Doctrine and Covenants all the way through? If they read everything every suggested as a reading assignment they might cover one third at best. If you as a teacher pull a relevant passage from the NT or the D&C there is a pretty good chance that half the members in the class have never read it at all, and the other half doesn’t remember what it says.

    That is the way you cover the principles of the gospel in greater depth. If you go to any other source, there is a high probability you won’t be discussing the gospel at all. I won’t believe that the scriptures have begun to be exhausted as a resource until every long time member is familiar with the teachings of every chapter of the BM, NT, and D&C backwards and forwards, the way that many of our peers are familiar with the NT alone. We do pretty well with the Book of Mormon, but as for the rest, it is largely uncharted territory, except for a few well known landmarks here and there.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Mark D ~ I tend to agree with you, but I feel like I have to add several qualifications. Acceptable or permissible material for lessons is a perennial topic, but I always have the nagging sense that it misses the mark.

    First of all, I would say that I feel that the scriptural corpus is primary source material. That is everything is largely derivative of scripture. The manual performs the function of organizing scriptural material into lesson-sized themes. However, the scriptures the manual selects are not exhaustive and could never be, given the nature of scripture. A teacher has the entire scriptural corpus at his or her disposal. Thus, statements by apostles and prophets even are largely derivative of scripture or elaborations. In as much as everything outside scripture is largely a derivation of it, it makes a lot of sense to stick with the scriptures.

    However (and a big however), the Gospel can never be limited to the canon because so much of what we believe has tenuous support in the scriptures, or was a later development that moved beyond scripture. I speak in generalities only for convenience, but as an example, there is no scripture to support the notion of the veil of forgetfulness. On the other hand, there can be situations where Church manuals introduce new ideas without any citation, or scriptural support or reference. I don’t necessarily feel bound to perpetuate those ideas just because some manual writer decided to put it in.

    Thrid, many scriptures we use, we fail to use in their appropriate context, either historically or based on the structure of of the text and how the text was put together. I’m not necessarily interested in perpetuating glosses, or proof-texts that are commonly used in the Church. For example, I would never use “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life” for the proposition that one should study the scriptures. This is a rebuke, not a commandment, although its a classic proof-text. So, while I endorse using scriptures, there are many ways to use scriptures ineffectively and inaccurately.

    Fourth, some scriptures can really only make sense (at least to me) in historical context, and sometimes the scriptures themselves do not provide this context. While I don’t know about historical “errata” I do believe that historical information can often do wonders to enhance a way to introduce ideas and facilitate discussions. It all depends on how the teacher goes about it.

    Fifth, so much of the Doctrine and Covenants is itself historical errata. The way the Church operates today is largely derived from the Church Handbook of Instructions, and not the Doctrine and Covenants. There is much in the Doctrine and Covenants that is merely a historical vestige and I see little reason why those passages should be a focus.

    Sixth, classroom discussion can never be “limited” to approved sources because one of the biggest source in Gospel lessons are the people themselves! No classroom participant, when sharing their personal experiences and how they feel about the Gospel, filters their comments and censors themselves to only Church approved materials. No, they discuss everything that they know which always will contain personal histories, personal experiences, references to popular culture, movies, stories, folklore, etc. In as much as the Gospel embraces all truth no matter where it is found, lived Gospel experience knows no bounds and limits to what is acceptable material.

    Seventh, this principle can easily be seen in General Conference talks which are peppered with allusions to history, literature, writers and authors and philosophers. C.S. Lewis anyone?

    So, while I feel in large part that yes, everything is highly derivative of scripture, a lot of material for good or bad, is not derivative of scripture. When we say scripture should be a focus, I do not mean at all that we simply use 30-45 minutes to take turns reading a scripture.

    Eighth, I think that reading outside sources can be a wonderfully rich supply of new ideas and readings for which scriptures to select. I read basically everything I can when I prepare for a lesson. If a scholar locates a scripture which is the genesis of a particular Mormon doctrine and that scripture just happens not to be included in the Gospel Principles manual, I have no qualms with pointing the scripture out and having a discussion about it. But I don’t make some news flash that I got this scripture from some academic, that isn’t necessary. So, again, it all comes down to the approach the teacher takes. And for all these reasons, I argue that the teacher decides the class.

  • Peter LLC

    Your sixth point is an important one and applies to the teacher as well; no one in the room is a blank slate.

  • Clark

    Why does the vision that John sees at the open of each seal have to be directly connected to the seal itself?

    Because he makes a big deal of unsealing and then things being show. It’s possible that there’s no relationship and all that setup is just coincidental. I personally am very doubtful of that, as I said. It is one way to reconcile the two statements by Joseph but my sense is that one is attempting a harmonization rather than looking at the text itself. Which is fine – people do that with the Gospels too. I guess I often just think a difference in views is what is going on.

  • Clark

    I speak in generalities only for convenience, but as an example, there is no scripture to support the notion of the veil of forgetfulness.

    To be fair once you have a doctrine of pre-existence then the fact we don’t recall it more or less logically entails we forgot. Great post though. I had somehow missed that one at your blog. I wonder if Steve at JI asks the question about forgetting and remembering in the context of early Mormonism as a quasi-neoplatonic theology.

    No, they discuss everything that they know which always will contain personal histories, personal experiences, references to popular culture, movies, stories, folklore, etc. In as much as the Gospel embraces all truth no matter where it is found, lived Gospel experience knows no bounds and limits to what is acceptable material.

    This is a fantastic point. And honestly, the best lessons I’ve been in aren’t done by scriptorians or even people that familiar with scriptural context. Rather they take a few points from the scriptures anyone can pick up and then spend the lesson talking about real life applications. If they are a good story-teller then the lesson is fantastic. But how on earth do you prepare a lesson manual for that?

  • Clark

    BTW – I did love your post on Revelation though Mike. I don’t buy that particular reading but I really enjoyed the link.

  • Earl

    A great and very interesting post since, as LDS, many of us do spend two of the three Sunday worship hours in a class room setting. The effective use of that time should be a high priority concern for every church member.

    [1]
    I am late to this thread and hesitant to introduce one more analogy, but here goes…

    Many years ago, I was taught that a car must have three basic factors to start: (1) a spark, (2) compression, and (3) the correct fuel/air mixture. If my car did not start, the culprit was to be found in one of these three factors.

    Similarly, in our Sunday class time, I suggest that to start the learning engine there are also three basic factors: (1) the teacher, (2) the lesson content, and (3) class member preparation.

    However, unlike my old jalopy, in general I believe that in an LDS classroom, any two of the three factors, if well developed, can trump the drag of the third.

    However, the analogy is not lock-tight since, yes, a strong teacher might be able to deliver a great lesson on weak content to an unprepared and unresponsive class. And, similarly, a well prepared and energetic class might be able to provide robust comments and questions to overcome the deficiencies of the teacher and lesson content.

    My point is, that while I agree with most all of the prior comments, the lesson manual is only one of several factors which a Sunday School President must address to keep a high level of interest in the GD class.

    And, may I add that, what seems to be true in all adult SS class manuals, the tendency to suggest questions that are frequently answerable with the same answer (study, pray, listen to the Spirit, and follow your leaders) does little to motive the teacher or the class.

    [2]
    As to the use of outside materials to strengthen weak content… we are far too timid. While I agree that the use of outside materials can be abused, a good SS President should be able to police the use.

    Here is one example of how the use of non-LDS material saved a lesson. In a HP Group class on tithing I was teaching one year, I came across a statement by a non-LDS woman that went like this: “Tithing is not a fund raising technique. It is an eternal principle unrelated to raising funds.” I had never heard tithing described this way by anyone in the church. Some lesson, GC talk, or Ensign article may have taught this using similar wording, but I have not read or heard it so taught. The statement saved the day…

    [3]
    While I am on it, revitalize and update the Teacher Training Classes. Make it a required class.

    [4] Now back to the GPM.
    While I agree that correlation had to draw a line somewhere on the list of gospel principles, and while mine is only one opinion on the matter, I do find it very irritating that several of the primary principles upon which gospel joy in this life are based do not rise to the level of “correlated gospel principles” and attain chapter prominence: grace, mercy, forgiveness. Work and Personal Responsibility, Developing Our Talents and Family Responsibilities all have chapter status. Grace, Mercy, and Forgiveness…? One church member told me that, well, these are all taught in other chapters. I said why not put Work and Personal Responsibility, Developing Our Talents, and Family Responsibility in other chapters? I will take the GPM more seriously when these three gospel principles rise to the level of chapter status.

    Great topic.

  • KLC

    I think the McDonald’s analogy dissenters are guilty of over interpretation. Any analogy breaks down at some point and as John Mansfield said somewhere else a few days ago, much fun can be had in pursuing that breakdown.

    Certainly the 21st century LDS dining experience is much closer to McDonalds than to a family owned bistro in Paris or a generations old trattoria in Naples. We regularly complain about the lack of fine dining in our church classrooms but it’s disingenous to not blame some of that on the corporate control over the kitchen.

  • http://www.approachingjustice.wordpress.com Chris H.

    “I think the McDonald’s analogy dissenters are guilty of over interpretation.”

    FPR is big on the whole interpretation thing.

    “Any analogy breaks down at some point…”

    I think that is something that those using the analogy must deal with.

    Anyways, McDonald’s has a great Diet Coke. Sunday School would be much better with Diet Coke.

    Confession: When my wife is in primary…I often spent the Sunday School portion of the block…at McDonald’s.

  • http://rameumptom.weebly.com Rameumptom

    Chris H: “Confession: When my wife is in primary…I often spent the Sunday School portion of the block…at McDonald’s.”

    We’ve always suspected that of you, Chris.

    Does that mean that your comment regarding McDonald’s is tarnished? And would that mean that anyone involved in correlation or teaching from the manual’s opinions regarding our current manuals would be tarnished? I guess that would tarnish MY reputation, as well! (Although I never do McDonald’s on Sundays. If necessary, I’d swing by Wendy’s or Steak N Shake).

  • http://www.approachingjustice.wordpress.com Chris H.

    Ram,

    See #41: “This comments was written at McDonalds. Seriously.”

    That was my only McD comment on the thread. I am opposed to all anti-McDonald’s snobbery. :)

    McDonald’s is the closest place to my meeting house. There is a BK nearby as well…but it is a disaster. The McD’s in Casper (we only have two) are very well run…and the large soda is a dollar.

    Merry Christmas, Rameumptom!

  • Mark D.

    aquinas, my main criticism of the way people use scriptures in Gospel Doctrine class is that scriptures that are not the formal topic of the lesson tend to be studiously ignored, leading to a sort of tunnel vision proof texting. If you are studying topic X from the scriptures, the only good way to go about it is to refer to all of them, not just the ones that appear in the chapter under consideration.

    Until a mention of topic X brings to mind all the major references to it anywhere in the scriptures, one can’t really claim to understand what the gospel doctrine on the topic actually is.

    The most amazing thing to me about Joseph Smith’s speeches his that he clearly knew the New Testament backwards and forwards to the degree that he could hardly go two sentences without paraphrasing some part of it. We tend to have the opposite approach – pass a vernacular understanding of the gospel from generation to generation, and occasionally refer to the scriptures for support. The language of the scriptures only rarely makes an appearance – instead we get generalizations which are rarely as powerful, as clear, or as succinct as what the scriptures actually say.

    In my opinion, if you want to make a point about gospel doctrine in Sunday School class, if you can’t think of a scripture, a statement of the living prophets in support, you should be considered out of order. It doesn’t matter what so and so said, if it isn’t in a current church publication, it is not a doctrine of the church.

  • http://www.approachingjustice.wordpress.com Chris H.

    “In my opinion, if you want to make a point about gospel doctrine in Sunday School class, if you can’t think of a scripture, a statement of the living prophets in support, you should be considered out of order.”

    Somebody could use a Diet Coke…from McDonalds.

  • Clark

    aquinas, my main criticism of the way people use scriptures in Gospel Doctrine class is that scriptures that are not the formal topic of the lesson tend to be studiously ignored, leading to a sort of tunnel vision proof texting. If you are studying topic X from the scriptures, the only good way to go about it is to refer to all of them, not just the ones that appear in the chapter under consideration.

    That’s not surprising though. I think the point is to emphasize certain teachings as one reads the scripture. But for actually studying scripture that’s really the individual’s responsibility in their personal study. The teach needn’t focus on what the manual emphasizes though – although many do. I notice most teachers just pick on their own out of their own reading what to emphasize.

    The language of the scriptures only rarely makes an appearance – instead we get generalizations which are rarely as powerful, as clear, or as succinct as what the scriptures actually say.

    Interestingly that was a big concern of Pres. Benson too. I recall him mentioning it in several conference talks (too lazy to look up reference). I’m sympathetic to the idea of using scriptural language. I do think it can lead to a problem where we use the same phrases but mean something different by them. So I actually think doing a translation to non-scriptural language can be helpful as well.

  • Kris

    How do we know the Prophet’s intent in his last utterance in the Carthage Jail? The facts should be laid out, but no conclusions made.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Great comments. Keep ‘em coming!

    Earl (58) ~ I completely agree. We spend the majority of our Sunday worship time in classrooms. Given that fact, increasing the quality of our lesson time is and should be a crucial aspect of our worship. It isn’t trivial. So many lessons seem like after-thoughts. By that I mean, I feel that many people, in their zeal to elevate the atonement and sacrament, make that the “real” worship that takes place at Church. They make it the most important part of Church attendance. I’m not arguing it isn’t important, but I disagree that it is the only important part and that everything else at Church doesn’t matter. If that were the case, we would only attend Church for one hour at the most. But the time we spend in Gospel instruction, is an extension of our worship.

    One of the points you raise is one of my biggest criticism with lesson manuals. That is the idea of “proportionality.” Taking the Gospel Principles manual as an example, one chapter is devoted to the Atonement and one Chapter is devoted to Tithing for example. Also, some topics seem to be repeated over 3 chapters and others 2 chapters and other topics just get 1 chapter. One of the problems I have with other manuals such as the Book of Mormon manual or the Old Testament, or the New Testament manual is where they decide to break up the material, where they decide to parse the lessons. It isn’t that I disagree with the overall content, but I disagree with how we are to break up that content.

    Having said that, the instructor has a great deal of influence over what gets selected, as I’ve said before the teacher is the gatekeeper. Selection always takes place. When I’ve been assigned several lessons back to back, I’ve often reallocated the material so that it makes sense to me in the focus or how much time I felt should be devoted to a particular idea. When I’ve taught Book of Mormon and I was the only instructor, I reallocated and split lessons up in a completely different way from the manual. This allowed me to teach ideas that would never be possible otherwise. There are some insights that cannot be explored unless we look at large scriptural territory, unless we explore several chapters and entire books of scripture. The problem with lessons that are organized into 3 chapters here, 3 chapters there, is that we lose the momentum in seeing a broader view of scripture. One of the problems with some of the lessons where an entire book of scripture is assigned in 30 minutes is that it is an unnatural way to teach, we need more time. With all the time that is wasted during lesson meetings, it is a shame that this feature is built into our lessons. But again, I still firmly believe, and strongly argue that the teacher can compensate for this drawback.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Mark D (#63) ~ “If you are studying topic X from the scriptures, the only good way to go about it is to refer to all of them, not just the ones that appear in the chapter under consideration.”

    Let me just say that I agree with you, I really do. But I do have a caveat. The mark of a great instructor is the ability to manage the very tiny resource given to us called time. When all is said and done, and all the announcements and interruptions and horseplay is over, the instructor who has prepared for 2 weeks is sometimes given 30 minutes. It is impossible to refer to all the scriptures in a substantive way that is engaging and meaningful to people in the class in 30 minutes. I don’t discount the idea, but one must balance the realities of the classroom environment and time. This is one of the reasons I marvel over the critiques of the manual’s content. Of course, the content is seriously lacking, but the manual assumes infinite time. We have limited time and thus selection is the name of the game. Instructors choose what not to teach on a regular basis. All guidance relating to effective Gospel instruction must, and I repeat must, never lose sight of the fact that you only have limited time. Any gospel advice that fails to appreciate the all too-often scenario of wonderful lessons that were never taught because of no-time, simply fails in my opinion. With all our lofty ideals about gospel teaching, many instructors know how unforgiving mismanaged time can be.

    Let me clarify that instructors shouldn’t be running around with their heads chopped off, unprepared, hurried, always looking at their watch or cell phone, ignoring comments because they are obsessed with how much time they have left, and always saying that obvious line “We are out of time!” Well, of course you are out of time. Every lesson will run out of time. That is the nature of lessons. We don’t need to waste time stating the obvious. The instructor doesn’t need to telegraph it, but the instructor needs to be calmly and painfully aware of this brutal fact of teaching.

    Let me end this comment with a famous line from popular culture:

    “Time rules over us without mercy. Not caring if we’re healthy or ill. Hungry or drunk. Russian, American, beings from Mars. It’s like a fire, it could either destroy us or it could keep us warm. That’s why every FedEx office has a clock, because we live or we die by the clock. We never turn our back on it and we never ever allow ourselves the sin of losing track of time.”

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Clark (#65) ~ This is a great point. So many of us are stunned and amazed by the Gospel and have really reaped the benefits of individual Gospel instruction and we want to share that experience with the class. Some might even want to replicate that experience in the classroom. This is a disaster waiting to happen. That’s why I argue that we need to be conscious of the fact that lesson-time not entirely about giving a lecture, a sermon, its not trying to replicate individual Gospel study. It doesn’t presume infinite time. Gospel instruction isn’t even about teaching in the conventional sense.

    In a traditional sense, a teacher is a master of a particular body of knowledge and the goal is to pass on this body of knowledge from the teacher to the student. This can never be, or serve as, the model of Gospel learning environments. The Gospel isn’t a body of knowledge to be passed down.

    Are there times I want to lecture and preach sermons? Absolutely. Sometimes I feel I would do great in a different church where preaching is the norm. There are so many things I want to say, I want to explain, I want to demonstrate and show people in my class. But, I always have to consider venue and purpose.

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Many of you raised the topic of “class preparedness.” I’ve been thinking a lot about this over the week. I think instructors need to be re-evaluate whether this really should make or break a class. There are many legitimate reasons why classroom participants might not be “prepared” or might not have “read the lesson.” I know people who were up late light night dealing with a sick child, or they are doctors in their profession, or they had life demands. Maybe they are hurting and need inspiration and they come to church to be healed or just to see whether it matters if they go to church. I’m not going to chastise them or look down upon these individuals because they haven’t opened the lesson manual. (Especially since we’ve agreed the lesson manuals aren’t all that great). I’m there to make sure they realize they made the right choice to come to class. And if they don’t read the scriptures in their life, I’m there to show them that the scriptures can have meaning and be relevant in their life.

    I try to design classes so that people can participate without having read the actual pages of the lesson manual. We have people who are visiting from out of town, or visiting for the first time. I ask questions anyone who has been a member of the Church can answer. I ask questions that draw upon lived Church experience. I ask questions that people can recall what they learned in Seminary, Institute, Sunday School, what anyone has taught them. I ask people what they know and what we know about a given topic. Then we explore our collective knowledge to see if it makes sense, to see if it explains why we do what we do, to see if it actually helps us live better lives. It’s a kind of Socratic method that shows us how little we know, and useless our Gospel knowledge is. It’s highly effective. People leave the class realize they don’t have the answers and the answers they thought they had, aren’t really answers either. They chew on the lesson for weeks and they still come back to it to think about it. It propels them to seek more knowledge to find out, to rediscover. To be very honest, in my experience, it doesn’t really matter how prepared the class is. It’s my role as instructor to create a Gospel learning environment that is flexible enough to meet the level of preparation of any classroom. But I can tell you that after repeating lessons like this over and over again, my class knows that they have to think, that their cherished worldviews will be challenged and that they are going to be engaged, they look forward to it.

    This brings me to the last point about using scriptural language. I’m all for it, but in my experience it isn’t the ace in the hole we think it is. Scriptural language has become cliche. We use these phrases so much that everyone can repeat them and recite them, and agree with us when we pepper our language with them, but no one knows what they mean. So, again, I would rather explore what we mean when we say X Y and Z. Why do we use this language? Reading the manual isn’t going to help you answer this question. The answers aren’t in the manual.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    aquinas, you mention teaching classes back-to-back. In Relief Society no teacher teaches more often than once a month (is that the same in priesthood meetings?), and in a ward like mine where there are so few callings for women (no Primary or YM/YW) the calling has been split so that it’s sometimes only once every two months. We have four Gospel Doctrine classes; I teach every other week, but in some classes the teacher gets only one in three weeks. Ward members aren’t assigned to a room — they float around to follow the teachers they prefer, so that those who attend my classes don’t necessarily attend the classes of the teacher I alternate with in the same classroom. There’s no coordination between teachers beyond the way the manual splits up the scripture blocks.

    I would prefer to teach every week. Despite the work load, I think it would allow for more continuity, more momentum (the reason I begged to teach every other rather than every third week). But the ward is what it is — nearly 600 active adults, and regular teaching slots for maybe 20 people in the entire ward, so I’m lucky to have anything to do.

    I realize it isn’t quite on topic for this post, but after this long discussion and because I’ve appreciated everything you’ve said so far, may I ask — do you have any advice or suggestions for teaching under those conditions? Do you think it’s more necessary to stick to the scripture blocks the way they’ve been designated in the manual so as not to “trespass” on the alternate teacher’s assignments, or do you think it’s still possible to play around with the schedule a little? Any suggestions on maintaining a class’s momentum when alternate teachers have such different styles? Do you think there is need for continuity between lessons, or should/can each one stand alone?

  • http://thepierianspring.wordpress.com/ aquinas

    Ardis, thank you for your comment and question. I think many recognize that often those who call members to various teaching callings make those decisions under considerations that can actually make teaching difficult. I’m almost positive they call several teachers because they want to give different people the opportunity to serve and also because they think it is “doable” and works with someone’s life schedule. As you point out, however, it can make teaching more difficult. It does seem to be that way in my ward as well, with floating Sunday School teachers who not only rotate weeks, but also rotate classrooms. Priesthood meeting instructors rotate so that they only teach once a month currently. The back-to-back lessons I taught were in Sunday School and perhaps it wasn’t common, but even though I was quite busy, I too enjoyed the continuity and momentum where each lesson built upon itself. It was probably one of the best teaching experiences I’ve ever had.

    Here is what I do. I do recaps. That is, I take some brief time at the beginning of lessons to explain where we have been, where we are and where we are going. I don’t always do it. Sometimes I just get right into things. But used the right way, I think this is beneficial for several reasons. First, this small orientation makes all the difference. Many members were not at Church for those previous lessons, or out of town, or attended somewhere else. In addition, most people can’t even remember what they had for lunch the day before, and often don’t even remember what was taught from week to week. But if I was in attendance for a lesson I didn’t teach, I remember what was discussed and I can use that when I teach if I think it enhances our class. I remind the class briefly, what we learned or discussed. I believe this is effective in providing continuity. I’m always trying to tie in gospel themes and make connections, so that all our lessons are connected in some fashion.

    Also, it gives me a chance to say something about the material I didn’t teach. Even if I didn’t teach the lesson on the Book of Acts last week (or especially if I didn’t teach the week before) I will speak as if I did teach the week before (most people won’t know anyway) “Last week, we began our study of the Book of Acts, and essentially saw the birth of the early Christian community…” This gives me a chance to say something about themes beyond the actual chapters assigned for that week.

    When I teach, I speak as if I taught all lessons before and I will teach all lessons after (even though I know I won’t). I let the class members know what is coming in the next weeks, and if the next teacher doesn’t teach that way, that’s totally fine with me.

    Do you think it’s more necessary to stick to the scripture blocks the way they’ve been designated in the manual so as not to “trespass” on the alternate teacher’s assignments, or do you think it’s still possible to play around with the schedule a little?

    Here’s how I see it. No teacher will ever teach the same as another teacher, even if using the same manual. Sometimes they decide to take the material in a different direction. Even myself, I can never duplicate a lesson exactly, because the lesson I taught was at a specific point in time and everyone who participated in that lesson was at a particular point in their life and their comments added to the shape of the class. So, no two lessons on the same chapters will be identical anyway. It’s the same principle with Sacrament speakers who are all given the same topic but whose talks end up different in several respects.

    So, I feel that yes, there is a lot of play in the schedule because you can recap ideas and themes, also the other teacher probably selected out a lot of material. Everyone is having to make selection decisions. I can bring that material into my lesson, and even if we duplicate, most people won’t even remember. These divisions are artificial and man-made. I think “trespassing” is entirely permissible because the Gospel themes cannot fit into a nice and tidy 45-50 minute block anyway. I don’t call it trespassing as much as connecting. That doesn’t mean I decide to cover the exact scripture block even if it isn’t my assignment, but I have carte blanche to say something about anything previously assigned as a recap. I tend to do a little longer recaps after 6 months. Time is precious but I always feel it is time well-spent.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    Thanks. Much of this seems so obvious (natural, commonsense, whatever word works) when you say it, but I needed to read it.

  • http://rameumptom.weebly.com Rameumptom

    Perhaps a manual that focused on topics over several weeks time would help in situations, such as Ardis is in. Also, to supplement Sunday Schools, wards can consider an adult education class or two (Institute for grown-ups). This would offer more opportunities to teach, the opportunity to teach more in-depth and not be limited to 30 minutes.

  • http://www.keepapitchinin.org Ardis E. Parshall

    Our ward has just started an Institute class, Rameumptom — it’s at 11 a.m. on Wednesdays, so only ladies of leisure can attend, of course.