Andrew Marin

Last week I posted a link to a story about Andrew Marin, a man who was reaching out to the LGBT community as a gay-friendly pastor, but was also leading anti-gay activist training sessions at the same time.

The original Chicago Reader story on him is here. The story of the conflicting interests is here.

Marin responded to this post with the following:

Hello,

I just saw this blog and figured I’d pop in and give my 2 cents worth…whatever it’s worth. Where Mike O. quoted the portion of the article and spoke about Michelangelo asking me four times…in fact, all Michelangelo did was yell, accuse and blame me for about 15 minutes and never gave me the true opportunity to speak my mind. If that is what he means by asking, then I guess we have two different opions of what a conversation is.

Also, the most interesting part of the article was when Steve Forst, the President of Dignity was quoted as not being happy with the foundation and me misleading him. Well, the truth always comes out, and Steve is now on the record through the Advocate and the media as saying that he NEVER said any of what was printed in the article. How interesting?!

The Marin Foundation is here to build bridges, and we would love the opportunity to talk to anyone about what we do and who we are. I will never enter into their one-sided, he-said-she-said debate, so if you would like to learn the truth, feel free to contact me directly.

We have also posted a repsone on our website, www.themarinfoundation.org.

Thank you and God Bless.

Andrew Marin

Logos asked a direct question in response: Is homosexuality a sin?

If Pastor Andrew is still reading this, what are your questions for him?


[tags]Andrew Marin, Chicago Reader, The Advocate, LGBT, Christian, atheist[/tags]

  • txatheist

    I don’t believe in sin as it is a religious concept. However, as an atheist asking a Christian I want to know how you view Romans 1:26? How do you reconcile that religious text with your sexual orientation? Thanks, TXatheist

  • Mike O

    I know this wasn’t addressed to me, but to Logos, I would ask, “And so what if he does?” What does that have to do with anything? If Marin thinks it’s a sin, so what. I do. But that doesn’t mean I can’t be friends with homosexuals. That doesn’t mean we can’t welcome each other into our homes and just go on with things. Complete agreement is overrated, and even divisive. I mean, sure, Christianity teaches (at least the Christianity I ascribe to) that homosexuality is a sin. But you don’t believe that, so let’s shake hands and move one, can’t we? We don’t agree. Or do demand total agreement to associate with us? Isn’t that the rap the Christians get? That we won’t listen to anyone and we try to make everyone agree with us?

    Think of it this way … WE don’t get to decide what is a sin and what isn’t. God (if there is one … I know this is an atheist site) does. If there is no God, there is no “sin.” But if there is a God, then maybe there is such a thing as sin. And that’s what I believe. God defines what is and isn’t sin, we don’t. I believe it’s a sin. You don’t. OK. Next question?

    Asking Mr. Marin whther or not he thinks homosexuality is a sin is really nothing more than asking him what he thinks God thinks. A God maybe you don’t even believe in (I don’t know you.) So with that in mind, the question serves no purpose other than to be divisive. If it’s a sin, it doesn’t matter what you or Mr. Marin think. It either is or isn’t, and apparently you disagree on what you think the answer is.

    Again, sometimes total agreement is overrated.

  • Mike O

    txatheist,

    Do you mind if I take a shot at that? It might not be right away because i have to go to work, but I’ve actually done some study on that. Not as it pertains to homosexuality specifically, but the general concept given in Romans 1:18 thru 2:4. It will be a lot of scripture if that’s alright.

  • Logos

    Well you see Mr.Marin was getting money from gay and lesbian groups, groups that I may have decided to give my money to. So yes it does matter if he thinks homosexuality is a sin, because that is not the kind of person I want my money going to.evangelicals are famous for dodging questions and hiding their true intentions. Like Ted Haggard telling his followers “not to act weird when the media is around” or William A. Dembski hesitating to mention that he is a young earther. I don’t care what evangelicals believe and would never make any move to change their minds . However if they are trying to get money or support from me then that is a different story. The catholic church launched a ministry along the same lines as Mr.Marin’s group. You can read about it herehttp://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/10/19/2 . They are it least honest about what they believe, a virtue that evangelicals do not seem to share. When i order a mug of beer I have a right to expect beer and not mule piss (which is what Mr.Marin is selling)

  • Mike O

    Well you see Mr.Marin was getting money from gay and lesbian groups, groups that I may have decided to give my money to. So yes it does matter if he thinks homosexuality is a sin, because that is not the kind of person I want my money going to.

    That makes sense.

  • Logos

    See, we can see eye to eye!

  • txatheist

    Mike O, I don’t want scripture to support your view. I was asking a homosexual how he sees Romans 1:26. I’m aware of how most of the Christian community views homosexuality.

  • Mike O

    Oh, OK. When I read

    I don’t believe in sin as it is a religious concept. However, as an atheist asking a Christian I want to know how you view Romans 1:26? How do you reconcile that religious text with your sexual orientation?

    I though you were looking for a Christian response since the original post was asking for questions of Mr. Marin. No worries, mate.

  • txatheist

    I though you were looking for a Christian response since the original post was asking for questions of Mr. Marin. No worries, mate.

    I was looking for a Christian response from a homosexual Christian.


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