Video of My “eBay Auction” Talk

Occasionally, I give talks about the eBay auction and my book to various groups.

I talk about the auction itself (“No, I did not sell my soul“), the aftermath (“Kirk Cameron, what happened to you?“), and the various ways atheists can get our message out to a larger audience (“Step one: Don’t be mean“).

Earlier this month, I spoke to the Humanists of West Suburban Chicagoland at a unitarian church in Naperville, IL.

Below is a brief excerpt from that talk. In it, I refer to the moment I decided to auction my church-going time on eBay and the initial media reaction to it. Hope you enjoy!

(Thanks to Joanne Reid for producing the video and Jack Sechrest for putting the event together.)


[tags]atheist, atheism, eBay, church, Christian[/tags]

Sam Harris and Rabbi David Wolpe

The American Jewish University hosted authors Sam Harris and Rabbi David Wolpe to discuss the existence of God and the role of religion and faith in society.

You can watch the full video here.

Steve Padilla, a writer for the Los Angeles Times, moderated the informal debate and wrote about the event. He excerpts a few snippets of the dialogue. Like this bit:

To this Harris observed: “The one thing to notice is that the dialogue between science and religion has gone this way: It . . . has been one of relentless and one-directional erosion of religious authority.

“I would challenge anyone here to think of a question upon which we once had a scientific answer, however inadequate, but for which now the best answer is a religious one. Now, you can think of an uncountable number of questions that run the other way: Where we once had a religious answer and now the authority of religion has been battered and nullified by science and by moral progress and secular progress generally. And I think that’s not an accident.”

Many religious claims, Harris added later, “are at odds with science. The belief that Jesus was born of a virgin may be a cherished claim by most Christians. It is also a claim about biology. That is why you can’t keep science and religion apart.”

Wolpe, rabbi of Sinai Temple, then prompted one of the biggest laughs of the night. “I don’t want to spend my night defending the virgin birth,” he said. “It’s not a claim about biology. It is a claim about natural laws, which themselves are an article of faith.”

“That’s a very slippery and dangerous slope,” Harris interjected.

Wolpe, undaunted, added that it’s an article of faith to say that natural laws can’t be altered. “There’s no reason why a Christian can’t say that the laws of biology have been suspended once in history,” he said.

By that reasoning, Christians can claim anything they want. To me, it sounds like a slam dunk for Harris.

Here’s the end of Padilla’s piece:

But it must be noted that both men received respectful applause, and both fielded pointed but polite questions from the audience.

Harris’ logic and eloquence probably did not persuade anyone to abandon his or her faith. And it’s unlikely that Wolpe’s heartfelt comments moved anyone out of Harris’ camp. But conversion wasn’t the point.

The atheist and the rabbi shared their views with grace and passion and often humor. Each man tossed out an occasional barb, but no one threw a bomb, much less a punch. When all was done, they chatted amicably backstage.

And that, perhaps, was the real lesson of the night.

What is with reporters trying to balance a debate at all costs?

Nightline did the same thing (with very similar words).

Both claimed that the real victory was getting the two sides (atheists and theists) to talk in the first place.

That’s not a very difficult achievement.

It’s more of an achievement to get the audience members to listen to both sides of the debate when most of them are used to hearing just one side.

It’d be a real victory if either side learned anything from the opponent.

I don’t get the sense that that happened in either scenario.

Frankly, watching a bulk of this debate, Harris dominates it. I didn’t pick up much from Wolpe other than the typical theistic soundbytes that atheists have heard many times over (such as the argument that Stalin/Mao/Pol-Pot were atheists so atheism must be wrong). Harris answers these claims as well as he can. I got the feeling that Wolpe didn’t care for any of the explanations. He just went on to the next soundbyte.


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The Christopher Hitchens Drink

The Christopher Hitchens Surprise:

1 Bottle Scotch whiskey: Johnnie Walker Black Label preferred
20 Cigarettes
An empty scotch glass
1 Bottle Grecian Formula
1 Live Christian infant

Using the scotch glass, empty the entire contents of the scotch, one glass at a time, into your mouth, occasionally smoking an entire cigarette in less than a minute. Muss your hair and apply some Grecian Formula to it, not enough to actually dye your hair, just enough to make it smell like you have. Make the infant smoke one of the cigarettes in front of its parents and their priest, then eat it raw. The flavours of baby, scotch, and lung cancer, mixed with the smells of smoke and bad hair products will make you bitter enough to hurl insults at Mother Teresa.

Serves one.

We have Reed to thank for that gem.

You can find this and plenty of other atheistical recipes (including the Baby Burger below!) at The Atheist Cookbook.

Baby Burger

(via Unorthodox Atheism)


[tags]atheist, atheism, God is Not Great[/tags]

People Will Believe Anything

First watch this video:

It’s not a ghost.

You know how I know it’s not a ghost?

Because ghosts don’t exist. And there’s probably a more likely explanation.

Of course, this is CNN. They wouldn’t want to do any actual investigation now, would they? They’ll just find the most idiotic, gullible people they can find and have them make up some crazy explanation for what they just saw.

Now, let’s look at what a random person can do with a bit of time, no spelling or grammar ability (illuminted?), and a lot of skepticism:

That makes a lot more sense, doesn’t it?

(Thanks to Kiev for the links!)


[tags]atheist, atheism, skeptic, Blue Gas Station Ghost[/tags]

Ray Comfort Lies Again

Now, Bananaman Ray Comfort is not just lying about the definition of an atheist; he’s lying about my friend.

First, Ray talks about a random person who claims he was once a Christian and then became an atheist:

… Hold it there for a moment. He was once a strong Christian? Let’s analyze what he is saying. A Christian is someone who knows the Lord: “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17:3, see also Hebrews 8:11). So our atheist friend is admitting that he knew the Lord? He is admitting that God is real and he has turned his back on Him? If confronted with such a thought, he will predictably say, “I thought I knew the Lord.” If that’s the case, then he was never a Christian. He thought he was, but he wasn’t. He was a false convert.

Strangely enough, I’ve heard the same thing said about Kirk Cameron, when he claimed to once be an atheist.

Anyway, Ray goes on…

There is one well-known atheist who has an itinerant ministry, who says that he was a Christian pastor for 17 years. That’s impressive. Judas only managed to fake it for three and a half years. This man faked it for seventeen years–in a pulpit! His name is Dan Barker. A number of years ago I emailed Dan and explained about the Judas thing. Barker bit back that if I ever contacted him again, I would hear from his lawyers. Wow! I must have struck a roar nerve (deliberate spelling).We often call these people bitter “backsliders.” However, they aren’t backsliders, because they never slid forward in the first place. The correct term for them is “false converts.” They are mentioned in Mark chapter 4, and in the Book of Peter, where they are likened to a pig that goes back to it’s filth, and a dog that returns to its vomit.

Well, that’s just plain false.

Dan Barker, who is co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, doesn’t use lawyers against individuals, only the government. And that’s only when they break the law.

Plus, he’s an incredibly nice guy who would hardly “bite back” at anyone.

Oh. And he really was a Christian pastor who believed everything a Christian does. He writes about it in his book Losing Faith in Faith. He didn’t “fake it” for 17 years. It was only toward the end of that stretch, when doubts seeped in, that Dan felt that he wasn’t being honest to himself anymore and he left the pulpit.

I asked Dan if Ray’s comments were accurate.

His response (via email):

Actually, I found the email correspondence between me and Ray Comfort from 2001. I did NOT say he would be hearing from my lawyers. I said I would contact his provider to complain about using email for harassment. I asked him to stop emailing me, after we hit a dead-end, and he continued, after being asked not to continue.

No lawyers at all. Just Ray being annoying and Dan asking him to stop. Dan posted a comment on Ray’s blog correcting this lie.

As of yet, that comment has not been approved.


[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]

Humanist Network News’ Year End Review

The latest Humanist Network News rounds up the year’s biggest stories pertaining to Humanism and freethought in general.

Feel free to compare the list to HNN’s top stories of 2006.

Seems to me like there were a lot more positive stories to report this year…


[tags]atheist, atheism, Humanism[/tags]

Positive Atheism at its Best

The Tri-City Herald (Washington state) has a front-page story today about atheist Fernando Aguilar. The article is called “A belief in the here and now”:

Aguilar

This guy’s incredible.

Aguilar, 55, of Walla Walla, is a civil engineer and his work has taken him to some of the most dangerous places in the world. He’s been to Iraq twice and Afghanistan once since 2003, helping to build water systems, hospitals and schools.

He’s also done relief work in Southeast Asia and volunteered in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina.

Aguilar says no two atheists hold exactly the same views because atheism isn’t a belief system. It’s simply a way of describing someone who doesn’t believe there’s a God.

For Aguilar, that’s the only take that makes sense. He’s an engineer, and he understands what he can measure and prove.

He believes that when you die, your mind and consciousness die too. That urgency gives his life meaning.

He tries to be a good partner to Yvonne and a good father. He has a daughter in college and son who’s a teacher, and he beams when he talks about them.

He tries to help other people when he can. That’s what he believes in.

Yvonne told a story about when Aguilar was in Iraq he didn’t pray to God when the mortar rounds were exploding around him. He turned to a friend and asked if she needed help.

How amazing is that.

I sent a note to reporter Sara Schilling thanking her for the terrific article. If you’re able, please do the same! Her email address is at the bottom of the article.


[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]

Atheist Bashing?

After seeing yesterday’s list of supposed Christian Bashing in 2007, Felicia asked an interesting question: What would the list be for atheists?

What were the highlights (or rather, lowlights) of atheist bashing in a year when atheists were actually in the spotlight more than ever before?


[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]

Landover Baptist Church *Exposed*

If you’re like me, whenever you read Landover Baptist Church, you wonder if it’s true or not…

I’m just kidding.

It’s made up. You know how I know it’s made up? Because they $%&#ing say so.

But Cross Nation wants to make sure you know there’s a difference:

This section is dedicated to detailing the many misrepresentations of Fundamentalist Christianity found at the satirical website known as Landoverbaptist.com or Landoverbaptist.org. The “Terms of Use” link at the bottom of the homepage of Landoverbaptist.com/.org does have a disclaimer acknowledging that Landover Baptist is fictitious, yet no effort has as yet been made by either critics or the website itself to show the disparities between fact and fiction.

So they created a chart… because you’re too much of an idiot to tell when Landover is making stuff up.

Here’s just one example (reprinted, as is, from cross-nation’s site):

What Landoverbaptist.com claims Fundamentalists believe. What Fundamentalists Believe in their own words.
Afterlife

You are probably asking yourself, “Why will Jesus be removing our reproductive organs and teats before we get to Heaven?” Well, my dear lady, the answer is quite simple. In Heaven, there’ll simply be no need for genitals. My guess is that the Lord is pretty disgusted after having to watch His creatures hump away on each other for the last 4,000 years. I know I’d be! Think of it this way, Jesus and His Daddy have been sitting up there in Heaven watching the longest pornographic film ever made, and frankly, they are no longer amused.
(http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
news0704/grandpa.html
, accessed 06/20/07)

Afterlife

“Will our resurrection bodies have sex organs? Since men will be men, and women will be women, and since there will be direct continuity between the old bodies and the new, there’s every reason to believe they will.”
(Alcorn, Randy Heaven Wheaton, Illonois: Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., 2004 p.339.)

It’s more comical to read the lines Cross Nation doesn’t want you to misunderstand.

Like this one from Landover Baptist regarding race:

“We’ve got races of funny looking people on this planet because demons were running around, humping’ humans back in Genesis!”

Or this one about vegetarians:

They are weak heathens, worshipping other gods.

Cross Nation provides Fundamentalists’ real beliefs on those topics. Believe it or not, Fundamentalists actually think people of all races are equal and vegetarians are just fine, too.

Shocking.

(via The Great Realization)


[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]

Christian Bashing in 2007

The Christian Anti-Defamation Commission (Headed by Gary Cass) released a list of the seven worst offenses of “Christian bashing” in 2007.

First, the list:

1.) Colorado Church Murders — “You Christians brought this on yourselves I’m coming for EVERYONE soon and I WILL be armed to the @#%$ teeth and I WILL shoot to kill. … God, I can’t wait till I can kill you people. Feel no remorse, no sense of shame, I don’t care if I live or die. …” Posted by a troubled young man, Matthew Murray, 10 hours after killing two at the Arvada missionary base and two hours before killing two at a Colorado Springs church. Churches used to be considered sanctuaries, but now they are targets for the hateful and the deranged. The CADC calls on every church to be prepared to use deadly force, if necessary, to protect their congregations.

2.) Federal Hate Crimes Bill — The 2007 Federal Hate Crimes Bill, which threatens religious liberties and lays the groundwork for “thought crime,” which has no place in American law and violates the concept of equal protection under the law. As has occurred in other nations, these laws pave the way for Christians to be silenced and even arrested because they believe that homosexual acts are sinful. It is totalitarian regimes that punish thoughts, not free societies. Thomas Jefferson declares that “the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions.”

3.) Violence on San Francisco Church — In September, Christians in San Francisco spoke out against a blasphemous anti-Christian advertisement for the Folsom Street Fair, a perverted “fair” for the sadomasochistic, leather fetish community. The ad mimics the classic Christian painting of Christ at the Last Supper. In the ad, Christ and the 12 Disciples are portrayed as sexual deviants provocatively posed before a table of sex toys.

4.) Attack on Jerry Falwell — CNN reached a new low when Anderson Cooper invited Christopher Hitchens, editor of Vanity Fair Magazine, on his show the day of Jerry Falwell’s death to make critical remarks about Falwell. Hitchens made the most reprehensible and offensive remarks one can imagine against a Christian minister, Jerry Falwell, even on the day of his death. Christopher Hitchens called Falwell “a little toad … a horrible little person…an evil old man… a conscious charlatan and bully and fraud…an actual danger to democracy, to culture, to civilization.”

5.) CNN’s “God’s Warriors” and HBO’s “Friends of God” — Two biased, anti-Christian documentaries were produced and aired. One by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, Alexandra, “Friends of God” on HBO and the other by CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, “God’s Warriors.” At least they tried to act as if they wanted to be fair. Of course, they failed. Evangelicals are almost 100 million strong and very diverse but are reduced to clichéd caricatures or are portrayed as the moral equivalents of Islamic terrorists.

6.) John Edwards’s Campaign Bloggers who called Christian supporters of President Bush his “wing nut Christofascist base.” One asked, ‘What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit,’ to which she replied, ‘You’d have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology.’ They posed the thoughtful question of religious conservatives, “What don’t you lousy %#*@!+# understand about keeping your noses out of our britches, our beds and our families?”

7.) “Golden Compass,” the movie — Phillip Pullman’s atheistic answer to C.S. Lewis’ “Chronicles of Narnia” series, because destroying the church and killing God in the mind of every child is the best revenge. Why be damned alone when you can take a few million souls with you and get rich on the proceeds?

Number 1 is definitely Christian bashing by a person who “hated Christians.” And the reaction was overwhelmingly in support of the church. No matter which faith you belonged to, or how ardent an atheist you were, you never wanted to see something like that happen.

If someone gets physically hurt or injured because of their Christianity, or slandered for something that is untrue, I think most atheists would be on the Christians’ side in all those cases.

The rest of the items on the list? Not so bad at all. If those are the worst offenses against Christians this year, they had it pretty good.

#3 isn’t even accurate: “Violence on San Francisco Church”? What violence?

#7 only references The Golden Compass movie. Not the book? Apparently in the 12 years since the books came out, they were never offensive… until now.

Most items on the list are individuals’ opinions of certain Christians or groups of them (4, 5, 6, 7). Another is an advertisement that used religious imagery (3). And the Federal Hate Crimes Bill would have only concerned people who commited violence against gay people. If a church wanted to say being gay is a sin, no one was stopping them. They’re allowed to do so. That wasn’t bashing Christians at all.

Eileen Flynn, of the Austin American-Statesman, wrote about this list:

… I agree that some of this stuff could reflect a real anti-Christian sentiment in our culture. And don’t even get me started on No. 6. Whether you believe in the Virgin Mary conceiving God’s child or not, that John Edwards blogger was tacky, tacky, tacky. But I wonder whether Christians, a powerful majority in this country, are truly facing the kind of danger the commission would have us believe they are…

They’re not facing real danger. Christians are going to be just fine next year.

Hell, a follower-of-Christ will still be elected president, regardless of which way the votes go. Meanwhile, the LGBT community faces actual (literal) bashing in many parts of the country. And atheists will have a rough time getting elected to any position no matter where they are located.

Flynn also got a number of worthwhile comments.

Like this one:

Ok all of this sucks…i am tired of these hard core so called christians who thinks that they can judge every little thing that is said and done and make it seem as if the world is against christians. I believe in God, and I have faith in a higher being, but looking at what has gone on within our churches, our church leaders it is no wonder why people are angry and against church people and religious groups. Stop judging others before placing that mirror in front of your own self.

And this:

So let me get this straight. Gary Cass is whining about “Christian bashing” because of a proposed law that would increase penalties for committing a crime against someone because of their sexual orientation??

He’s whining because he’s afraid he won’t be allowed to bash gays even in a metaphorical sense?

Maybe he should spend his time being Christlike instead epitomizing the very modern model of today’s hypochristian.

Reed Braden also makes an interesting observation:

I think the most telling part of this list is that they couldn’t come up with 10 anti-Christian events in 2007. They could only come up with 7.

I’m trying to find instances of actual Christian bashing that occurred this year and I’m having a hard time. Outside of insane people shooting up churches, are there other cases of Christians being legitimately discriminated against?

In other words, is there anything that should’ve been included on this list that was not?

(via Unorthodox Atheism)


[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]