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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; Darwin Celebrations</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-5440</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; Darwin Celebrations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tomorrow is Evolution Sunday! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tige Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3978</link>
		<dc:creator>Tige Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I am even more offended. How dare you stick a &quot;hate&quot; label on me? &quot;A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.&quot;

Right now I&#039;m angry with you atheist-Ned Flanders&#039;, hidely-hoeing the Christians. Do you even know the difference between them and us? I don&#039;t think so.

Do you sincerely believe barbarians listen to you when you talk nice to them? You are always a fool who will suffer hellfire if you don&#039;t repent before it&#039;s too late. They have no need to tempt themselves with your flesh-based point of view.

Their lifestyle is nothing more than a cult-induced ritualistic self-euthanasia. 
There&#039;s a trained mental process that keeps them closed off from the knowledge of the real world. I used to be a Christian and I know there&#039;s a person lost in there trapped in a tapestry of fuzzy dreamland confusion. They can&#039;t be coaxed out of such a mess, they must be busted out. Not just for their sake, but for all our sakes.

Barbarians do not have the same problem with hate that you do. 
Anger is motivational. It gits &#039;er done for the barbarians. I get good use out of it myself and if more of us were appropriately angry instead of climbing the mountain, more would get done.

Is Christian behavior wrong or merely &quot;not preferred&quot;? If no matter what they do, you will tolerate it, then you are useless. No True Christian thinks &quot;turn the other cheek&quot; applies to the unsaved or there would be no NRA.

This is not about vengeance. It is about preventing serious irreversible damage in the future, or PRESENT. I can&#039;t get revenge for their attempts to start Armageddon!

Hear them?:
&quot;Whose gonna stop us?&quot;
&quot;I dare you to impeach me?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I am even more offended. How dare you stick a &#8220;hate&#8221; label on me? &#8220;A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m angry with you atheist-Ned Flanders&#8217;, hidely-hoeing the Christians. Do you even know the difference between them and us? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Do you sincerely believe barbarians listen to you when you talk nice to them? You are always a fool who will suffer hellfire if you don&#8217;t repent before it&#8217;s too late. They have no need to tempt themselves with your flesh-based point of view.</p>
<p>Their lifestyle is nothing more than a cult-induced ritualistic self-euthanasia.<br />
There&#8217;s a trained mental process that keeps them closed off from the knowledge of the real world. I used to be a Christian and I know there&#8217;s a person lost in there trapped in a tapestry of fuzzy dreamland confusion. They can&#8217;t be coaxed out of such a mess, they must be busted out. Not just for their sake, but for all our sakes.</p>
<p>Barbarians do not have the same problem with hate that you do.<br />
Anger is motivational. It gits &#8216;er done for the barbarians. I get good use out of it myself and if more of us were appropriately angry instead of climbing the mountain, more would get done.</p>
<p>Is Christian behavior wrong or merely &#8220;not preferred&#8221;? If no matter what they do, you will tolerate it, then you are useless. No True Christian thinks &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; applies to the unsaved or there would be no NRA.</p>
<p>This is not about vengeance. It is about preventing serious irreversible damage in the future, or PRESENT. I can&#8217;t get revenge for their attempts to start Armageddon!</p>
<p>Hear them?:<br />
&#8220;Whose gonna stop us?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I dare you to impeach me?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3666</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tige, if you have been persecuted, of course it&#039;s not your fault.  No one is saying it is.  I have been too, but I saw that returning hate for hate just made things worse.  Don&#039;t give in to the same bigotry that you object to.  Individuals are responsible for abusing others, not all members of an entire group.  And individuals like you can choose to respond in better ways than just mechanically return the same abuse.  Your anger will hurt you from within far worse than any one from the outside.  Don&#039;t abandon reason yourself in a headlong rush for vengance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tige, if you have been persecuted, of course it&#8217;s not your fault.  No one is saying it is.  I have been too, but I saw that returning hate for hate just made things worse.  Don&#8217;t give in to the same bigotry that you object to.  Individuals are responsible for abusing others, not all members of an entire group.  And individuals like you can choose to respond in better ways than just mechanically return the same abuse.  Your anger will hurt you from within far worse than any one from the outside.  Don&#8217;t abandon reason yourself in a headlong rush for vengance.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3665</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tige,
I did not say it was Galileo&#039;s fault that he suffered.  Of course not.  I meant that his failure to work carefully, constructively and patiently with people in an environment that was hostile to his ideas doomed him to suffering at the hands of the Church.  As a teenage friend of mine would say, &quot;He was book smart, but not street smart.&quot;  It was not his &quot;fault.&quot;  He did not &quot;deserve&quot; it, but the lesson for us is to recognize the reality of the environment we are working in.  You may not see any &quot;reason&quot; for people to be Christians today, but they&#039;re here, and will be for quite a while.  Face the reality of your environment and work constructively within it for positive change.  If all you do is raise your angry fists at the Christians all around you, while you probably won&#039;t be burned at the stake, you&#039;re not going to change anything for the better.  If they &quot;dare not preach in your earshot&quot; that means they can&#039;t hear what you have to say either.   

Yes, I remember Voltaire, Paine, Nietzche, Clemens and so many others.  They are still read, in fact I&#039;m sure there are more people alive today who have read them than there were during their lifetimes.  Atheists are a much greater percentage of the population now than in their day.  Is that not progress?
Slower than either of us would like, but progress still.

Are you more interested in stoking the fire of your own anger than actually helping the situation?  Would you be willing to give up your indignation and resentment, if it meant you could actually contribute to a better world?  Don&#039;t be like Mr. Furious, played by Ben Stiller in the movie, &quot;Mystery Men.&quot;  He would just have useless tantrums while everybody else got things done.

You&#039;re not going to wipe out Christianity.  But you could help wipe out hate.  Start with your own, and you&#039;ll have more effect with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tige,<br />
I did not say it was Galileo&#8217;s fault that he suffered.  Of course not.  I meant that his failure to work carefully, constructively and patiently with people in an environment that was hostile to his ideas doomed him to suffering at the hands of the Church.  As a teenage friend of mine would say, &#8220;He was book smart, but not street smart.&#8221;  It was not his &#8220;fault.&#8221;  He did not &#8220;deserve&#8221; it, but the lesson for us is to recognize the reality of the environment we are working in.  You may not see any &#8220;reason&#8221; for people to be Christians today, but they&#8217;re here, and will be for quite a while.  Face the reality of your environment and work constructively within it for positive change.  If all you do is raise your angry fists at the Christians all around you, while you probably won&#8217;t be burned at the stake, you&#8217;re not going to change anything for the better.  If they &#8220;dare not preach in your earshot&#8221; that means they can&#8217;t hear what you have to say either.   </p>
<p>Yes, I remember Voltaire, Paine, Nietzche, Clemens and so many others.  They are still read, in fact I&#8217;m sure there are more people alive today who have read them than there were during their lifetimes.  Atheists are a much greater percentage of the population now than in their day.  Is that not progress?<br />
Slower than either of us would like, but progress still.</p>
<p>Are you more interested in stoking the fire of your own anger than actually helping the situation?  Would you be willing to give up your indignation and resentment, if it meant you could actually contribute to a better world?  Don&#8217;t be like Mr. Furious, played by Ben Stiller in the movie, &#8220;Mystery Men.&#8221;  He would just have useless tantrums while everybody else got things done.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to wipe out Christianity.  But you could help wipe out hate.  Start with your own, and you&#8217;ll have more effect with others.</p>
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		<title>By: Tige Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3663</link>
		<dc:creator>Tige Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really take this personal, that the persecution that I suffer at the hands of these slime is somehow my fault. Oh, so it is I who have gone too far? Nevermind that this indoctrination started when I was in school and persists in my workplace. Nevermind that it takes effort to try to find out whether these things are true or not and that no Christian bothers to find out but rests on the tradition of trust in Scripture (even when it says nothing on a subject).

Be sure and tell Salman Rushdie that his persecution is his own fault too and that if he left well enough alone he would be happily living in Iran under the theocracy of Aminnejad.

Friendly Atheism is worthless pandering to a vicious tyrant. Friendly Atheism is cowardice akin to servility to the mafia. I see nothing beneficial in this. It is an appealing to emotion fallacy for certain.

The problem in the debate between Atheism and Christianity is the viciousness, evasive and deceptive tactics, and bleak ignorance of the Christian. Being friendly to them does not inspire them to take up Reason.

The greatest success thus far has been humiliation of the Christian, that his beliefs are stupid and that he looks stupid pronouncing them and so to protect his dignity he must stop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really take this personal, that the persecution that I suffer at the hands of these slime is somehow my fault. Oh, so it is I who have gone too far? Nevermind that this indoctrination started when I was in school and persists in my workplace. Nevermind that it takes effort to try to find out whether these things are true or not and that no Christian bothers to find out but rests on the tradition of trust in Scripture (even when it says nothing on a subject).</p>
<p>Be sure and tell Salman Rushdie that his persecution is his own fault too and that if he left well enough alone he would be happily living in Iran under the theocracy of Aminnejad.</p>
<p>Friendly Atheism is worthless pandering to a vicious tyrant. Friendly Atheism is cowardice akin to servility to the mafia. I see nothing beneficial in this. It is an appealing to emotion fallacy for certain.</p>
<p>The problem in the debate between Atheism and Christianity is the viciousness, evasive and deceptive tactics, and bleak ignorance of the Christian. Being friendly to them does not inspire them to take up Reason.</p>
<p>The greatest success thus far has been humiliation of the Christian, that his beliefs are stupid and that he looks stupid pronouncing them and so to protect his dignity he must stop it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tige Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3660</link>
		<dc:creator>Tige Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...naive about their motives...&quot;
THEIR motives, and in this the negative connotation is clear.

&quot;...For those failings he suffered,...&quot;
So, it was GALILEO&#039;s fault he suffered?!? What is wrong with you?

&quot;This is a centuries-long process.&quot;
I beg your pardon, but centuries ago, we were much, much further along than we are now. Remember Voltaire? Paine? Neitzche? Clemens?

It is very obvious that the state of the world is a product of the disease of Christianity spreading and gaining a foothold and the thinking people tolerating it in spite of its history.

There is absolutely no reason why anyone today should be a Christian. I have confronted many and you know what? They are cowards who eventually run away to protect their faith from my siege. In their minds they are victorious but they dare not preach in my earshot.

Even if Christianity became a minority, I would not stop until it was wiped completely from the Earth. It shall not rise again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;naive about their motives&#8230;&#8221;<br />
THEIR motives, and in this the negative connotation is clear.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;For those failings he suffered,&#8230;&#8221;<br />
So, it was GALILEO&#8217;s fault he suffered?!? What is wrong with you?</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a centuries-long process.&#8221;<br />
I beg your pardon, but centuries ago, we were much, much further along than we are now. Remember Voltaire? Paine? Neitzche? Clemens?</p>
<p>It is very obvious that the state of the world is a product of the disease of Christianity spreading and gaining a foothold and the thinking people tolerating it in spite of its history.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no reason why anyone today should be a Christian. I have confronted many and you know what? They are cowards who eventually run away to protect their faith from my siege. In their minds they are victorious but they dare not preach in my earshot.</p>
<p>Even if Christianity became a minority, I would not stop until it was wiped completely from the Earth. It shall not rise again.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3297</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tige, Yes i remember Galileo, he&#039;s a hero of mine.  He was a genius among geniuses, but he was foolish about people.  He was naive about their motives, insensitive to their foibles, and worst of all he was impatient with their pace of growth.   For those failings he suffered, and we had to wait longer for his gifts to be shared.  Nobody likes the in-your-face kind of approach.  It discredits whoever does it.  Consider that if you are tempted to be an &quot;unfriendly atheist.&quot;  Anger just makes people dig in their heels, justify their prejudice against us, and slows progress down.  This is a centuries-long process.  Be a constructive part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tige, Yes i remember Galileo, he&#8217;s a hero of mine.  He was a genius among geniuses, but he was foolish about people.  He was naive about their motives, insensitive to their foibles, and worst of all he was impatient with their pace of growth.   For those failings he suffered, and we had to wait longer for his gifts to be shared.  Nobody likes the in-your-face kind of approach.  It discredits whoever does it.  Consider that if you are tempted to be an &#8220;unfriendly atheist.&#8221;  Anger just makes people dig in their heels, justify their prejudice against us, and slows progress down.  This is a centuries-long process.  Be a constructive part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tige Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3290</link>
		<dc:creator>Tige Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For two thousands years Christians have stood in the way of science. Remember Galileo? Just because sooner or later they have to suck it up doesn&#039;t mean they won&#039;t be in your face again and again, sigh, and again. No, I don&#039;t think I care for this friendly atheist approach. Christianity is plainly false and directing people to church gatherings in support of evolution is contradictory and frankly stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For two thousands years Christians have stood in the way of science. Remember Galileo? Just because sooner or later they have to suck it up doesn&#8217;t mean they won&#8217;t be in your face again and again, sigh, and again. No, I don&#8217;t think I care for this friendly atheist approach. Christianity is plainly false and directing people to church gatherings in support of evolution is contradictory and frankly stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/01/07/evolution-sunday/#comment-3221</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God (if you will excuse the expression) for a step toward sanity!  I applaud the courage of the clergy who participate.  An amazing anomaly in a world that seems &quot;hell bent&quot; on fundamentalism.  Maybe someday Christians can imitate the best of Jesus without having to believe a dozen impossible things before breakfast, and we atheists can get on with more important matters than defending science from superstition.  Of course, the pessimist in me thinks that &quot;someday&quot; may be decades away.  Anyone else conditionally optimistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God (if you will excuse the expression) for a step toward sanity!  I applaud the courage of the clergy who participate.  An amazing anomaly in a world that seems &#8220;hell bent&#8221; on fundamentalism.  Maybe someday Christians can imitate the best of Jesus without having to believe a dozen impossible things before breakfast, and we atheists can get on with more important matters than defending science from superstition.  Of course, the pessimist in me thinks that &#8220;someday&#8221; may be decades away.  Anyone else conditionally optimistic?</p>
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