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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: The &#8220;God&#8221; Part of the Brain by Matthew Alper</title>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven’t read the book, but I’m skeptical of its thesis.  I doubt that there is a single area of the brain that is home to the God-function.  I don’t buy the idea, as MTran expressed it so well, that it was the fear of death that got the ball rolling on the God idea.  As I see it belief in God is both a rational and irrational product.  It is rational insofar as it explains phenomena that cannot be explained by primitives who lack science (or, like fundies, that reject science).  When pre-humans were terrified by lighting and sought to understand what it was, they had no other means than analogical ones:  “hmmm, I throw my spear at the tree and it leaves a mark . . . some great and powerful hunter must be throwing his shining spear that splits the tree.”  The irrational part of belief is the imaginary part that convinces people that they have felt or heard God.  This capacity is expressed in other ways and is wrapped up with the emotions.  A great novel or film or symphony or a Belgian beer with your pals around the campfire or a panoramic vista of the Sierras can get one to a similar place, using the same parts of the brain, as a peak experience with religious mysticism.  We all have this capacity—it’s part of being human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t read the book, but I’m skeptical of its thesis.  I doubt that there is a single area of the brain that is home to the God-function.  I don’t buy the idea, as MTran expressed it so well, that it was the fear of death that got the ball rolling on the God idea.  As I see it belief in God is both a rational and irrational product.  It is rational insofar as it explains phenomena that cannot be explained by primitives who lack science (or, like fundies, that reject science).  When pre-humans were terrified by lighting and sought to understand what it was, they had no other means than analogical ones:  “hmmm, I throw my spear at the tree and it leaves a mark . . . some great and powerful hunter must be throwing his shining spear that splits the tree.”  The irrational part of belief is the imaginary part that convinces people that they have felt or heard God.  This capacity is expressed in other ways and is wrapped up with the emotions.  A great novel or film or symphony or a Belgian beer with your pals around the campfire or a panoramic vista of the Sierras can get one to a similar place, using the same parts of the brain, as a peak experience with religious mysticism.  We all have this capacity—it’s part of being human.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Book Review: The "God" Part of the Brain &#171; import Mind.Reason</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/03/23/book-review-the-god-part-of-the-brain-by-matthew-alper/#comment-20837</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Review: The "God" Part of the Brain &#171; import Mind.Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Disclaimer: this review was solicited by a publisher; opinions are like 100% certainly truly totally my own (you know the boilerplate). You can read other reviews here: Nullifidian, Daylight Atheism, Deep Thoughts, Atheist in a mini van, Friendly Atheist, Amazon and the official website.)    Filed under: theism, atheism, book review, religion  &#160;&#160;&#124;&#160;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Disclaimer: this review was solicited by a publisher; opinions are like 100% certainly truly totally my own (you know the boilerplate). You can read other reviews here: Nullifidian, Daylight Atheism, Deep Thoughts, Atheist in a mini van, Friendly Atheist, Amazon and the official website.)    Filed under: theism, atheism, book review, religion  &nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nullifidian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: &#8216;The &#8220;God&#8221; Part of the Brain&#8217; by Matthew Alper</title>
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		<dc:creator>nullifidian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: &#8216;The &#8220;God&#8221; Part of the Brain&#8217; by Matthew Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one for you to review &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leestrobel.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Case for a Creator&lt;/a&gt; by Lee Strobel. You can either get the book or here is a clip from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leestrobel.com/CFCreator.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DVD&lt;/a&gt;. I am here to help with the truth. The evidence is compelling if you have an open mind and are truly searching for truth, if not we will see in your review.

Just a concerned family man,

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one for you to review <a href="http://www.leestrobel.com/" rel="nofollow"> Case for a Creator</a> by Lee Strobel. You can either get the book or here is a clip from the <a href="http://www.leestrobel.com/CFCreator.htm" rel="nofollow">DVD</a>. I am here to help with the truth. The evidence is compelling if you have an open mind and are truly searching for truth, if not we will see in your review.</p>
<p>Just a concerned family man,</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Petrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Petrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why Matthew Alper talks about &quot;God&quot; -- isn&#039;t he aware of the existence of polytheist religions? Monotheism is only a recent invention, and even then, it&#039;s often partial. Consider the Xian Trinity, or Hindu monotheists&#039; explaining the multiple gods of Hinduism as aspects of some single one.

Polytheism also has had &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; greater longevity than monotheism, judging from history and extrapolated prehistory. So the question ought to be why people believe in gods, plural.

It annoys me when people project Abrahamic stereotypes on other forms of religion, because the Abrahamic religions have features that are not very common, like a dedication to squashing rival religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why Matthew Alper talks about &#8220;God&#8221; &#8212; isn&#8217;t he aware of the existence of polytheist religions? Monotheism is only a recent invention, and even then, it&#8217;s often partial. Consider the Xian Trinity, or Hindu monotheists&#8217; explaining the multiple gods of Hinduism as aspects of some single one.</p>
<p>Polytheism also has had <em>much</em> greater longevity than monotheism, judging from history and extrapolated prehistory. So the question ought to be why people believe in gods, plural.</p>
<p>It annoys me when people project Abrahamic stereotypes on other forms of religion, because the Abrahamic religions have features that are not very common, like a dedication to squashing rival religions.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyNat</title>
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		<dc:creator>HappyNat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed MTran.  Reading their FAQs it looks like their organization is intent on finding that NDEs mean something more is going on.  I guess I can&#039;t blame them, because if NDE were explained they would be out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed MTran.  Reading their FAQs it looks like their organization is intent on finding that NDEs mean something more is going on.  I guess I can&#8217;t blame them, because if NDE were explained they would be out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In any event, there is no reason to attribute any non-natural process to the near death experience.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Michael Shermer, of the Skeptics Society, has investigated NDEs extensively and this is the conclusion he reaches also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In any event, there is no reason to attribute any non-natural process to the near death experience.</p></blockquote>
<p>Michael Shermer, of the Skeptics Society, has investigated NDEs extensively and this is the conclusion he reaches also.</p>
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		<title>By: MTran</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen Katzoff,

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by this sentence:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
If Alper is building his case by stating that near-death experiences (NDEs) are the result of purely phsyiological or pharmacological causes then I suggest he take a fresh look at the recent medical research.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you mean that there are non-physical (supernatural) causes of NDEs or do you mean that there are natural causes in addition to physiological &amp; pharmacological ones, such as psychological ones?

I browsed through an admittedly limited number of pages at the iands site and was not impressed in a positive way. Here&#039;s a sample of an introduction to an article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is one of the very few NDE studies to be conducted prospectively, meaning that a large group of people experiencing cessation of their heart and/or breathing function were resuscitated during a fixed period of time, and were interviewed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Prospective&lt;/em&gt; studies?   From all appearances, this was not a &quot;prospective&quot; study in any normal sense of the word.  This makes it sound as if a bunch of people were &lt;em&gt;selected&lt;/em&gt; to have heart attacks and subsuquent resuscitation. 

Although the problematic wording does nothing to explain how the study was conducted, it does illuminate the questionable manner in which the study was designed and the odd conclusions that some are drawing from it.  To me it sounds as if someone is using a bunch of sciency sounding jargon but not really knowing what it means.

If you want to understand the qualities and varieties of consciousness you would be better served by reading a bit of the work done by VS Ramachandran or Oliver Sacks.  They both have marvelous peer reviewed articles but, more useful for most people, they are enormously talented writers and are able to make even arcane neurobiology understandable to anyone who can read.

In any event, there is no reason to attribute any non-natural process to the near death experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen Katzoff,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by this sentence:</p>
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If Alper is building his case by stating that near-death experiences (NDEs) are the result of purely phsyiological or pharmacological causes then I suggest he take a fresh look at the recent medical research.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you mean that there are non-physical (supernatural) causes of NDEs or do you mean that there are natural causes in addition to physiological &amp; pharmacological ones, such as psychological ones?</p>
<p>I browsed through an admittedly limited number of pages at the iands site and was not impressed in a positive way. Here&#8217;s a sample of an introduction to an article:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is one of the very few NDE studies to be conducted prospectively, meaning that a large group of people experiencing cessation of their heart and/or breathing function were resuscitated during a fixed period of time, and were interviewed.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Prospective</em> studies?   From all appearances, this was not a &#8220;prospective&#8221; study in any normal sense of the word.  This makes it sound as if a bunch of people were <em>selected</em> to have heart attacks and subsuquent resuscitation. </p>
<p>Although the problematic wording does nothing to explain how the study was conducted, it does illuminate the questionable manner in which the study was designed and the odd conclusions that some are drawing from it.  To me it sounds as if someone is using a bunch of sciency sounding jargon but not really knowing what it means.</p>
<p>If you want to understand the qualities and varieties of consciousness you would be better served by reading a bit of the work done by VS Ramachandran or Oliver Sacks.  They both have marvelous peer reviewed articles but, more useful for most people, they are enormously talented writers and are able to make even arcane neurobiology understandable to anyone who can read.</p>
<p>In any event, there is no reason to attribute any non-natural process to the near death experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Katzoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Katzoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Alper is building his case by stating that near-death experiences (NDEs) are the result of purely phsyiological or pharmacological causes then I suggest he take a fresh look at the recent medical research. The best source is the International Association for Near Death Studies (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iands.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.iands.org&lt;/a&gt;).
You can check under the Research Tab for some current papers - the best are by Dr. Peter Fenwick from Britain and D. Pim Van Lommel from the Netherlands.

The most relevant data is presented in a DVD by Dr. Bruce Greyson, a research psychiatrist at the University of Virginia, of a presentation he made at an October, 2006 conference at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houton. Greyson shows that current research data, mainly done in recent years at medical centers, does not support the physiological explanations for NDEs. His talk can be obtained by clicking on the 2006 conference link in the center of the home page. The talk is titled &quot;Explanatory Models of NDEs.&quot; Greyson is not making theological conclusions but simply outlining what the data is showing. It is a compelling case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Alper is building his case by stating that near-death experiences (NDEs) are the result of purely phsyiological or pharmacological causes then I suggest he take a fresh look at the recent medical research. The best source is the International Association for Near Death Studies (<a href="http://www.iands.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.iands.org</a>).<br />
You can check under the Research Tab for some current papers &#8211; the best are by Dr. Peter Fenwick from Britain and D. Pim Van Lommel from the Netherlands.</p>
<p>The most relevant data is presented in a DVD by Dr. Bruce Greyson, a research psychiatrist at the University of Virginia, of a presentation he made at an October, 2006 conference at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houton. Greyson shows that current research data, mainly done in recent years at medical centers, does not support the physiological explanations for NDEs. His talk can be obtained by clicking on the 2006 conference link in the center of the home page. The talk is titled &#8220;Explanatory Models of NDEs.&#8221; Greyson is not making theological conclusions but simply outlining what the data is showing. It is a compelling case.</p>
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