Comments on: Protest Outside the Creation Museum http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/ by Hemant Mehta Sat, 26 May 2012 10:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: r http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-791269 r Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:42:00 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-791269 Ever hear of Charles Darwin? Ever hear of Charles Darwin?

]]> By: Wes Helmuth http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-144250 Wes Helmuth Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:20:18 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-144250 Iztok, I think you missed my point. My question is, "Why isn't the public allowed to know about the serious discussions that are taking place within the scientific community about the problems with evolution?" The ferocity is interesting with which anyone, including scientists, is attacked for pointing out places where evolutionary theory doesn't fit or suggesting other possibilities that would fit the facts. As to me coming up with a whole theory on my own, no one person came up with the theory of evolution on their own -- I don't know why a person who disagrees with evolution has the burden of coming up with an explanation for all the facts by himself. Thanks for your response. Iztok,
I think you missed my point. My question is, “Why isn’t the public allowed to know about the serious discussions that are taking place within the scientific community about the problems with evolution?” The ferocity is interesting with which anyone, including scientists, is attacked for pointing out places where evolutionary theory doesn’t fit or suggesting other possibilities that would fit the facts.
As to me coming up with a whole theory on my own, no one person came up with the theory of evolution on their own — I don’t know why a person who disagrees with evolution has the burden of coming up with an explanation for all the facts by himself.
Thanks for your response.

]]> By: Iztok http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-143482 Iztok Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:40:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-143482 Wes, could you bring forth any scientific support or at least scientific theory about evolution that would explain it better then evolution theory? Feel free. I can guarantee you that anyone who can come up with better scientific theory that fits the fact would become very famous. That is how science works. So don't tell us what the problems in evolution theory are, come up with a better scientific theory that better describes the facts and we will listen. Onus is on you. Wes, could you bring forth any scientific support or at least scientific theory about evolution that would explain it better then evolution theory? Feel free. I can guarantee you that anyone who can come up with better scientific theory that fits the fact would become very famous. That is how science works. So don’t tell us what the problems in evolution theory are, come up with a better scientific theory that better describes the facts and we will listen. Onus is on you.

]]> By: Wes Helmuth http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-143415 Wes Helmuth Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:59:09 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-143415 In observing the events of the last few years, it appears to me that the defenders of evolution are the ones who don't want people to really investigate what the truth is. They seem to want to stifle investigation and debate. In the past, those who weren't sure whether their position could withstand scrutiny were the ones who tried to stifle debate and hinder open investigation. Why can't problems with evolutionary theory be seriously considered by the public? Why are scientists shunned and dismissed who question what seems to be the rigid religion of evolution? In observing the events of the last few years, it appears to me that the defenders of evolution are the ones who don’t want people to really investigate what the truth is. They seem to want to stifle investigation and debate. In the past, those who weren’t sure whether their position could withstand scrutiny were the ones who tried to stifle debate and hinder open investigation. Why can’t problems with evolutionary theory be seriously considered by the public? Why are scientists shunned and dismissed who question what seems to be the rigid religion of evolution?

]]> By: Dave Jackson http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-36788 Dave Jackson Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:21:07 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-36788 How did the first reproductive organism evolve into existance successfully? How did the first reproductive organism evolve into existance successfully?

]]> By: Sensei Kurt http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-35715 Sensei Kurt Thu, 31 May 2007 04:41:23 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-35715 And Now Virgina Tech, who is next? When I first heard of the April 20, 1999 massacre in Littleton, Colorado, my reaction was shock, horror, and grief -- grief over the lives lost, grief at the suffering of the families, and grief over what has happened to our country. Why is this happening? An Oregon school fell victim to a murderer who with intent, went into the school to slaughter fellow students. October of 1998, a 16- year-old in Pearl, Mississippi killed his mother then shot 9 students, killing two of them. December of 1998, a 14-year-old boy killed 3 students in Paducah, KY, wounding others in a student-led prayer meeting. The "experts" consoled us that this is a rare event. Once is an "instance," twice would be a "co-instance," three or more establishes a "pattern." A 15-year-old girl was hanged and pummeled by fellow students, because they feared she was going to "snitch" on them. In Springfield, OR, a 15-year-old murders his parents in their home, then turns his weapons on students in his school, killing one, critically injuring others as "he just mowed 'em down." Strangely, a scene in Terminator II, may shed some light on "Why is this happening?" The Terminator was about to kill a man who was simply trying to help the young John Conner. The Terminator was stopped by John Conner and ordered, by Conner, not to "kill" people. The Terminator replied, "Why?" And Conner insisted, "You just can't go around killing people!" Again the Terminator asked, "Why?" Conner in frustration said, "You just can't...!" Conner answered with no foundational absolutes, which means he was only expressing his opinion. "Why not murder?" is equally a valid question in a society with no absolutes. Our nation's schools have been emancipated from absolute standards by ignoring our Creator God. Our youth are taught that we, by chance, evolved from primordial soup. They are simply re-arranged pond scum, with no real worth to the world, no purpose, no hope, and no meaning what-so-ever! Is it any wonder that suicide is one of the leading causes of death among teens? Our youth are acting consistently with what they have been taught. According to the Evolution belief system, human life has no more meaning than a blade of grass. We mow our lawns, so why not mow down our fellow man -- what's the difference? Hitler applied the same evolutionary logic to the people of Europe. We rid our homes of unwanted vermin, why not rid the world of unwanted humans -- what's the difference? This atheistic/evolutionary philosophy of our day is the logical foundation and justification for this "cruel" behavior because there are no moral absolutes. What is the solution? What can we do? We must expose evolution as the pseudo-science it is, teaching our children that they are not a conglomeration of random chance accidents, but rather are created in the very image of God. Then we must teach our children that there are moral standards we abide by set by our Creator God. And Now Virgina Tech, who is next?

When I first heard of the April 20, 1999 massacre in Littleton,
Colorado, my reaction was shock, horror, and grief — grief over the
lives lost, grief at the suffering of the families, and grief over
what has happened to our country. Why is this happening?

An Oregon school fell victim to a murderer who with intent, went
into the school to slaughter fellow students. October of 1998, a 16-
year-old in Pearl, Mississippi killed his mother then shot 9
students, killing two of them. December of 1998, a 14-year-old boy
killed 3 students in Paducah, KY, wounding others in a student-led
prayer meeting. The “experts” consoled us that this is a rare event.

Once is an “instance,” twice would be a “co-instance,” three or more
establishes a “pattern.” A 15-year-old girl was hanged and pummeled
by fellow students, because they feared she was going to “snitch” on
them.

In Springfield, OR, a 15-year-old murders his parents in their home,
then turns his weapons on students in his school, killing one,
critically injuring others as “he just mowed ‘em down.” Strangely, a
scene in Terminator II, may shed some light on “Why is this
happening?”

The Terminator was about to kill a man who was simply trying to help
the young John Conner. The Terminator was stopped by John Conner and
ordered, by Conner, not to “kill” people. The Terminator
replied, “Why?” And Conner insisted, “You just can’t go around
killing people!” Again the Terminator asked, “Why?” Conner in
frustration said, “You just can’t…!” Conner answered with no
foundational absolutes, which means he was only expressing his
opinion. “Why not murder?” is equally a valid question in a society
with no absolutes.

Our nation’s schools have been emancipated from absolute standards
by ignoring our Creator God. Our youth are taught that we, by
chance, evolved from primordial soup. They are simply re-arranged
pond scum, with no real worth to the world, no purpose, no hope, and
no meaning what-so-ever! Is it any wonder that suicide is one of the
leading causes of death among teens? Our youth are acting
consistently with what they have been taught.

According to the Evolution belief system, human life has no more
meaning than a blade of grass. We mow our lawns, so why not mow down
our fellow man — what’s the difference? Hitler applied the same
evolutionary logic to the people of Europe. We rid our homes of
unwanted vermin, why not rid the world of unwanted humans — what’s
the difference? This atheistic/evolutionary philosophy of our day is
the logical foundation and justification for this “cruel” behavior
because there are no moral absolutes.

What is the solution? What can we do? We must expose evolution as
the pseudo-science it is, teaching our children that they are not a
conglomeration of random chance accidents, but rather are created in
the very image of God. Then we must teach our children that there
are moral standards we abide by set by our Creator God.

]]> By: Craig http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-34065 Craig Sun, 27 May 2007 19:35:01 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-34065 I am not sure what the problem is with this museum. If they are peddling lies, then let them peddle. It does not seem to me that people who do not believe in creation will be attending in droves. The heart and soul of both the creationist and evolutionist views (for the intellectually honest) is the desire to look at the whole truth and not just what each side wants to see. There should be no fear in letting people see the entirety of what both sides believe so they can decide for themselves. As for the creation museum making Christians look like fools...I think that Christianity as a whole has much bigger fish to fry. I am not sure what the problem is with this museum. If they are peddling lies, then let them peddle. It does not seem to me that people who do not believe in creation will be attending in droves. The heart and soul of both the creationist and evolutionist views (for the intellectually honest) is the desire to look at the whole truth and not just what each side wants to see. There should be no fear in letting people see the entirety of what both sides believe so they can decide for themselves. As for the creation museum making Christians look like fools…I think that Christianity as a whole has much bigger fish to fry.

]]> By: Dan http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-32423 Dan Fri, 25 May 2007 02:02:25 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-32423 I live in Northern Kentucky myself, only about 12-14 miles or so from this uber-insult called the "Creationism Museum", and I live in the town that many of them are booking hotels in. I might pay the protest a visit myself since this appals me very badly. This is against modern knowledge, actual history and what historians know and believe, against science and reason, and education. This is also a sign of terrible things to come, as it shows potential for a Christian-based fascism (which is a problem, rather you are Christian or not)... I live in Northern Kentucky myself, only about 12-14 miles or so from this uber-insult called the “Creationism Museum”, and I live in the town that many of them are booking hotels in. I might pay the protest a visit myself since this appals me very badly.

This is against modern knowledge, actual history and what historians know and believe, against science and reason, and education. This is also a sign of terrible things to come, as it shows potential for a Christian-based fascism (which is a problem, rather you are Christian or not)…

]]> By: Jeeezuz http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-25817 Jeeezuz Mon, 07 May 2007 21:08:58 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-25817 Creationists can say whatever they want. They just must stop asking to put creationism and intelligent design into science books, 'cuz simply THEY ARE NOT SCIENTIFIC THEORIES! Jeeezuz, from Italy Creationists can say whatever they want. They just must stop asking to put creationism and intelligent design into science books, ‘cuz simply THEY ARE NOT SCIENTIFIC THEORIES!

Jeeezuz, from Italy

]]> By: “I Don’t Believe In Evolution Because My Parents Said So” « Gimme Back My God! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-25729 “I Don’t Believe In Evolution Because My Parents Said So” « Gimme Back My God! Mon, 07 May 2007 06:20:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/05/06/protest-outside-the-creation-museum/#comment-25729 [...] NOTE: Please go to the Rally For Reason website to see how you can take part in expressing your displeasure with fake science. You’ll have to be in Kentucky on May 28th, but it might make a fun road trip. Thanks to The Friendly Atheist for posting the information. [...] [...] NOTE: Please go to the Rally For Reason website to see how you can take part in expressing your displeasure with fake science. You’ll have to be in Kentucky on May 28th, but it might make a fun road trip. Thanks to The Friendly Atheist for posting the information. [...]

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