Chuck Norris Knows All… Because He Makes It Up

Chuck Norris seems to think atheists are trying to outlaw Christianity. Sure we are…

After naming most of the major atheist/Humanist groups in the country, Norris says this:

Though the U.S. Constitution outlaws religious discrimination, these organizations and individuals would love nothing more than to help society look with distain [sic] upon Christianity and, ultimately, make its components illegal. In fact, right now, they are coalescing and rallying at least 5 million of their troops to mount counter offensives to Christianity.

We are? No one tells me anything…

Here is some of his “proof” of the evil atheist conspiracy:

Earlier this year George Washington dollar coins were not only inscribed with the words “In God We Trust” on their edges, but many excluded them entirely! Such minting modifications are a flagrant defiance against theism and a public reflection of the place God is now relegated – to the fringes of society.

While some atheists did enjoy that, it was nothing but a mistake. Furthermore, our currency did not always have references to God on it. There’s a history behind when and how that was introduced.

Norris goes on to talk about how non-theist Pete Stark is not the type of representative our Founding Fathers had in mind:

Atheists also received a proverbial shot in the arm by locating a representative and advocate of sorts in Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., who “is the first member of Congress – and the highest-ranking elected official in the country – to make known that he is a nontheist.”

His election stands in stark contrast to the wishes of our Founding Fathers, who encouraged American citizens to vote Christians into public office.

Wow. I’ve never heard that extreme before. Forget the Muslims. And the Jews. Hell, why do we even bother electing women to Congress?

Norris also talks about the Hate Crimes bill that’s supposed to “deter and punish acts of violence committed against an individual because of the victim’s race, religion, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.”

Of course this piece of legislation makes sense… unless you’re writing for WorldNetDaily.

Once enforced, what would stop a clergy from being accused as an accessory to a hate crime, after he preached to his church on Sunday about the woes of same-sex marriage and discovered on Monday one of his congregants got in a fight with a homosexual co-worker as a result of a moral altercation? The fact is, if the hate-crime bill passes, pastors could easily become pulpit partners in crime.

Unless the pastor said “Go beat up the gays,” the pastor would not get in trouble. The bill is very explicit about this. Norris, like so many others, is just picking at anything he can to “prove” there is some conspiracy against Christians.

(Thanks to Duncan for the link)


[tags]atheist, atheism. Chuck Norris, Christian, Humanist, Constitution, George Washington, In God We Trust, Pete Stark, Founding Fathers, American, Muslim, Jew, WorldNetDaily[/tags]

  • http://www.humanistnetworknews.org HumanistPR

    Hemant,

    You forgot to mentiont the best part. Chuck Norris names the Secular Student Alliance in this column. Once he finds out that you’re the president of the SSA, you beter start practicing your numchuck skills.

    I also love that Texas Walker linked to an article in Humanist Nework News. Chuck Norris reads HNN!

  • Vincent

    “Though the U.S. Constitution outlaws religious discrimination, these organizations and individuals would love nothing more than to help society look with distain [sic] upon Christianity”

    I agree with that statement and point out that the Constitution has absolutely nothing to say about what “society” approves of or disdains, merely about what the federal government (and states via the 14th amendment) can do.

  • http://off-the-map.org/atheist/ Siamang

    Once he finds out that you’re the president of the SSA, you beter start practicing your numchuck skills.

    Bwaaaahahhaaaaa!!!!!

  • http://www.burakudream.net Yoshi

    I’m italian (you know, catholicland, the vatican republic of italy and so on).

    Sometimes i need to see that we don’t have ALL these…strange people, thank you:)

  • http://uncrediblehallq.blogspot.com Chris Hallquist

    Chuck Norris is so dumb, he makes William Dembski look bright.

    No, but seriously, I think this article represents a disturbing trend to be incapable telling a violation of your rights and being denied a chance to violate other people’s rights.

  • http://off-the-map.org/atheist/ Siamang

    William Dembski? You mean the Issac Newton of Information Theory?

    Chuck Norris is the Issac Newton of Kicking ASS!

  • http://suttsteve.com Steve Sutton

    This whole Christian persecution complex is getting really old. They’re the ones who seem to be doing the actual persecuting.

  • Brendon Lake

    Hi

    I’m a Christian from Zimbabwe (just above South Africa) and my perception is that society as a whole is getting more and more hostile to Chistians, I mean, in North America & Europe, for the most part you can be a Muslim or any other religion you are accepted but no one wants to know about what Christians think about anything.

    Bottom line is, what religion are the constistutions of the US and England based on?

  • Logos

    People here at this site want to know what Christians think!

  • http://mollishka.blogspot.com mollishka

    Troops? Awesome!

  • Richard Wade

    Looks like Chuck has executed too many rounhouse kicks and received too many in the head. The sudden shifting of the skull shaves cells off the outside of the brain floating inside. It’s what happened to Muhammad Ali.

    This crap is serious paranoia. Every time Norris makes an ass of himself I think well he can’t go much worse, but then…

    Where’s the five million atheist rally gonna be held? I didn’t get the memo.

    (Pick the city with the funniest connotation and post it here.)

  • http://graeme-h.livejournal.com/ graemeh

    It’s a sad thing that actors and singers for some reason have an opinion that ‘matters’, cause hell – Chuck can kick punch and grin, that’s what he’s good at (and maybe growing a beard) but there’s no reason we should even care what he has to say about science or theology, he’s not a priest and he’s not a scientist, far from. I wouldnt be surprised if the guy HAS lost a few too many brain cells.

  • http://graeme-h.livejournal.com/ graemeh

    albeit, i should note it IS amusing to hear about how foolish he is – so i’m not saying that this post was in err – just that the person who thought it a good idea to hear from him originally is.

  • Mimi N

    Hey I’m Mimi. i dont have anything to say about Chuck other than the fact that he’s so wrong. all these hate crimes and stuff that supposedly only atheist ppl do. whatever. i do happen to be a Christian though. you’re probably wondering why im on an atheist site then. well i saw you on this one show (which ive now forgotten) and i was so happy to see it because i admit that i thought atheist were evil ppl at one time. after seeing the show i realize that they’re just ppl without a God and i respect that.but i know that there are a lot of Christians that are worse because they think that just cuz they have a God that they’re so much better than atheist when really we’re not cuz we come off so judgemental. if we change our attitudes then maybe we can win more souls for Christ which is our whole purpose anyway.
    this is a good website and it wont be the last time i come on!

  • Richard Wade

    Mimi N, welcome and I hope you comment again. We are trying to understand each other through respectful dialogue and to stop the spread of hateful stereotypes that some believers and non believers have about each other. The lunacy that Chuck Norris is spouting is just a mild example of how scary it can get.

    You don’t have to abandon your faith by abandoning bigoted opinions that others have told you. Go further. Consider that if they lied to you about atheists, what else did they lie about?

  • Kela

    I don’t think the proposed or current hate crimes legislation makes any sense at all for an anyone (atheist/religious/whatever). The motivations behind a crime should have no baring on the punishment. The system does not (should not) give a lesser sentence if the person has “good” reasons for committing a crime so why should the opposite be true. The individuals who commit violent acts because of race/sexual orientation/religion etc have done a horrible thing but no more horrible that the man who does it for any other reason essentially because all crimes are ‘hate crimes.’ In addition, the only person who every really “knows” with certainty the motivation for a crime is the person who commits it and we run the risk of adding extra punishment because a crime is committed against someone of a specific group.

  • http://aboutkitty.blogspot.com/ Cat’s Staff

    I liked the part about….

    For these liberal groups to win the war of ideological dominance, they know they must minimize the effects of Christianity [...]

    Then he goes on to talk about “In God We Trust” on the money and other government endorsements to religion. So what he’s saying is “Christianity can’t maintain ideological dominance without government endorsement of religion”. Thanks for making our case for us, Mr. Norris. Perhaps Michael Newdow can work that into his case when he gets to the Supreme Court… Exhibit A for the Plaintiff, a WND article by Chuck Norris.

  • Richard Wade

    Kela, I felt very much the way you do about the hate crimes issue and I talked about it on this post here at Hemant’s site. But then I read a response to me by Darryl and I really could see the other side of the argument. Go there, skip my stuff since it agrees with you, and scroll about halfway down to where Darryl posted a comment on March 31 at 9:14 PM. It’s a brief but very adroit argument. I can’t be as one-sided in my opinion after reading it.

  • HappyNat

    Welcome Brendon! You said:

    in North America & Europe, for the most part you can be a Muslim or any other religion you are accepted but no one wants to know about what Christians think about anything.

    Yup, nobody ever pays attention to the Pope . . . .

    Bottom line is, what religion are the constistutions of the US and England based on?

    Quick answer, none other than the “reilgion” of individual freedom. Do constitutions need to be based on a religion?

  • Vincent

    Brendon,

    “Bottom line is, what religion are the constistutions[sic] of the US and England based on?”

    This deserves a more thorough answer.
    First, England does not have a constitution.
    England does have an official state religion – the Church of England.

    In the USA, the Constitution is not based on any religion. It is a secular document with no reference whatsoever to god or gods.
    It references religion only to say the government can’t establish a religion and cannot keep people from practicing their religion on their own.

    It is quite likely that the majority of deligates to the Constitutional Convention went to christian churches. I’m fairly certain there weren’t any who went to non-christian churches. The most prominent members (those whose names are known by nearly all Americans) were nearly all non-christian deists.
    This is well expressed in Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli (1796) which starts out: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion….”

    So, short answer: England – no constitution. USA – not founded on any religion.

  • Mriana

    This guy needs and education about the “In God We Trust” thing as well as our Founding Fathers, who most were deist. I never saw any of those coins or maybe like the bible in hotel rooms I did not take notice. Where does this guy get off saying Humanists want to do away with religion? What troops? I guess he has not read anything about Humanism, in which we are opposed to such violence.

    Personally, I hardly want to do away with religion per se. I do think it can be modified into a more humanistic perspective. I would also love to do away with dogma, Fundamentalism, abusive religion, and extremism. I don’t really wish for anything more nor do I expect more, because I can see some value in it for people who are liberal or progressive Christains.

    I became a Humanist because the ideas are very much similar to mine and the various ceremonies are more in line with my thinking too. One can be spiritual and still be a Humanist. One can have a non-theistic view of god (if it can be called “god”, due to how natural it can be perceived). Granted, the concept is not worshipped. Not even George Carlin worships his “sun god”. :lol:

    My point is, this guy needs to get to know people before he starts making ignorant remarks. I know he’s not stupid, just very ignorant. As long as religion is not imposed upon me, I can take it or leave it and most of the time, if not imposed, I don’t even notice it. A person can say, “Amen!” as a form of agreement to what I said and I take no offense to it, because I know they strongly agreed with whatever I said. It meant nothing more.

    I’d gladly give this guy enlightenment for free, but it would seem he prefers ignorance.

  • Jen

    Damn right we are trying to make Christianity illegal! Good thing we have so many atheists in Congress. Oh wait…

  • jasmine

    this comment is towards jen why would you want to take away someone right to serve a GOD they believe in it’s just down right ashamed but i do know what my GOD JESUS CHRIST says NO WEAPON(S) FORMED AGAINST ME WILL BE ABLE TO PROSPER IN JESUS NAME I PRAY THAT GOD WILL TOUCH YOUR HEART AND REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT YOUR SAYING IS SAD BUT THERE’S STILL HOPE AND CHANGE FOR YOU LOVE ALWAYS SISTER JASMINE FROM NJ

  • jasmine

    this comment is towards jen why would you want to take away someone right to serve a GOD they believe in it’s just down right ashamed but i do know what my GOD JESUS CHRIST says NO WEAPON(S) FORMED AGAINST ME WILL BE ABLE TO PROSPER IN JESUS NAME I PRAY THAT GOD WILL TOUCH YOUR HEART AND REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT YOUR SAYING IS SAD BUT THERE’S STILL HOPE AND CHANGE FOR YOU LOVE ALWAYS SISTER JASMINE FROM NJ

  • HappyNat

    Jasmine,

    I belive that was sarcasm, we would never want to outlaw christianity. If we don’t know who the christians are how will we be able to find slaves to work in the fields once we take over the world?

  • Richard Wade

    Teasing slightly paranoid people only makes them more paranoid. Slightly paranoid people are confused by the subtleties of sarcasm. Fully paranoid people think subtleties are everywhere because they make them up to embellish reality.

    It’s not in our best interest to make more people more paranoid just for our amusement. Talk straight to them. Save your sarcasm for the sane but pretentious ones who really deserve it.

  • Mriana

    Why is everything suddenly bolded? It almost seems like shouting. Oh wait, there was some shouting. Shhhhhhh! Use your board voices. ;)

    I think mine is going to turn out bold too, looking at the preview and I didn’t tell it to do so, something is wrong. :S

  • Jen

    Richard, you are correct. I should not have assumed the paranoid had any idea that America’s Congress is filled with Christians or at the very least, people pretending to be Christians (minus dear Mr Stark).

    Seriously, people. I don’t care about your expression of religion as long as it doesn’t stop me from living my life.

    Ok, wait, I want one more…

    JASMINE I AM PRAYING TO RICHARD DAWKINS THAT YOUR EYES OPEN AND YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE THE WAY I WANT TO LIVE MINE!!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO LIVE!!!

  • Richard Wade

    LOL! Jen, you are incorrigible. :)

    Mriana, the bold font thing is a problem that happens on this site from time to time, usually after one person uses bold on purpose. Seems to get stuck for everyone. Sometimes it’s all in italic, which can be just as annoying. Once it was all in “link” and I couldn’t post anything. Even the text box was a link. That one was apparently only for my computer; everyone else went on commenting and Hemant didn’t find anything wrong on his end. Hopefully this new html thing that Tim helped him with will end these problems.

  • Amissio

    Oh Chuck Norris! I had such respect for you and your ass-kicking ways.

  • Matt Connolly

    I am not worried about what the government or anyone thinks. Yes I am a christian and I am also a american I live in a free society and i respect people’s right to belive or not belive in a religon. I maybe a christian but trust me I want separation of church and state just as much as athiest and humanist do. I am secure in my beliefs and I respect the beliefs of others and I love that we live in a country that we can think and belive how we want to that is what we all should consider including chuck norris.Besides the government cant even keep illeagel drugs and guns off the street how the hell are they going to keep bibles off the street. Well anyways I respect your desicion to be athiest or humanist I may disagree with you but I will fight for your right to think that way. May liberty be immortal.

  • Richard Wade

    Matt Connolly,
    I very much appreciate your convictions both for your faith and your civic principles. From the atheist side I will be there fighting next to you shoulder to shoulder for your right to believe as well.

    Good point about the government’s inability to limit anything people want to do. What a ridiculous paranoid fantasy. Norris and his kind are just fear mongering for profit. Don’t pay them too much mind, but don’t turn your backs on them either.

    Thank you for saying what you did.


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