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	<title>Comments on: Human Migration: A Brief History</title>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38585</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>diana, it&#039;s simple.  You, in an otherwise totally valid and intelligent post, made an apparently throwaway statement about atheists being sexists.  I, not being a sexist atheist, was confused about this and wanted to know how you reached this conclusion.  You refused / refuse to accept that you made that statement, and instead claim &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; am the one not dealing with an issue.  Textbook case of projection.  

Let me throw out a hypothetical example.  If I came into a discussion board, made a nice progressive intelligent statement (like, say, the Catholic Church hates women and here are 30 reasons why), and then ended my post with &quot;Catholic priests all worship the Devil&quot;, what would happen?  

Wouldn&#039;t at least one person there wonder why I accused priests of being satanic?  Should I get a free pass for my stupid statement at the end because the rest of my post was valid?  

I don&#039;t know the answer to any of these questions, but I personally think that saying something questionable at the end of an otherwise valid speech is worthy of questioning.  I&#039;m sorry that your taking offense at my questioning occurred, and I hope that your deeming of me as an asshole has helped you work through your anger at the sexism you see in atheists.  

I&#039;m also sorry that you did not take the opportunity to notice that the reason I was offended was because you called atheists sexists.  It didn&#039;t seem that difficult of a concept to grasp, but you completely decided to ignore it, while pretending as if I didn&#039;t get your point.  I don&#039;t understand the point of posting on a forum and then purposely ignoring feedback.  Maybe I&#039;m just an asshole like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>diana, it&#8217;s simple.  You, in an otherwise totally valid and intelligent post, made an apparently throwaway statement about atheists being sexists.  I, not being a sexist atheist, was confused about this and wanted to know how you reached this conclusion.  You refused / refuse to accept that you made that statement, and instead claim <em>I</em> am the one not dealing with an issue.  Textbook case of projection.  </p>
<p>Let me throw out a hypothetical example.  If I came into a discussion board, made a nice progressive intelligent statement (like, say, the Catholic Church hates women and here are 30 reasons why), and then ended my post with &#8220;Catholic priests all worship the Devil&#8221;, what would happen?  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t at least one person there wonder why I accused priests of being satanic?  Should I get a free pass for my stupid statement at the end because the rest of my post was valid?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the answer to any of these questions, but I personally think that saying something questionable at the end of an otherwise valid speech is worthy of questioning.  I&#8217;m sorry that your taking offense at my questioning occurred, and I hope that your deeming of me as an asshole has helped you work through your anger at the sexism you see in atheists.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also sorry that you did not take the opportunity to notice that the reason I was offended was because you called atheists sexists.  It didn&#8217;t seem that difficult of a concept to grasp, but you completely decided to ignore it, while pretending as if I didn&#8217;t get your point.  I don&#8217;t understand the point of posting on a forum and then purposely ignoring feedback.  Maybe I&#8217;m just an asshole like that.</p>
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		<title>By: diana</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38308</link>
		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cautious: You are simply not dealing with the issue. So I won&#039;t engage.

This presentation is good, but employs sexist terminology. I pointed that out. I 

Sorry you took offense. That says more about you than about the rightness or wrongness of what I said. Life&#039;s too short to deal with assholes. You are an asshole. So I won&#039;t deal with you.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cautious: You are simply not dealing with the issue. So I won&#8217;t engage.</p>
<p>This presentation is good, but employs sexist terminology. I pointed that out. I </p>
<p>Sorry you took offense. That says more about you than about the rightness or wrongness of what I said. Life&#8217;s too short to deal with assholes. You are an asshole. So I won&#8217;t deal with you.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38160</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>diana, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I pointed out that this particular thing, whatever else its merits, was sexist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right, and then you said the part that I raised issue with, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...I threw out two guesses on why you wrote this: that you thought the presentation&#039;s makers were atheists, or that Hemant was sexist.  Since neither of those were true, was your comment a &lt;em&gt;non sequitur&lt;/em&gt;?    If so, I&#039;ll end this paragraph with one too:   Sadly, it seems even atheists can be puppy-kickers.  

I too think it is disturbing when anthropology or other studies of prehistoric peoples are male-centric.  Unless a fossil is of a male (which sometimes can be told from cranial morphology), then its stupid to call something &quot;Neanderthal man&quot;.  I don&#039;t think of this as active sexism, i.e., I don&#039;t think that referring to &quot;ancient man&quot; keeps women out of anthropology.  I seems to me to be more pervasive, passive sexism, wherein human accomplishments (such as migration) are just assumed to be done by males.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>diana, </p>
<blockquote><p>I pointed out that this particular thing, whatever else its merits, was sexist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right, and then you said the part that I raised issue with, </p>
<blockquote><p>Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;I threw out two guesses on why you wrote this: that you thought the presentation&#8217;s makers were atheists, or that Hemant was sexist.  Since neither of those were true, was your comment a <em>non sequitur</em>?    If so, I&#8217;ll end this paragraph with one too:   Sadly, it seems even atheists can be puppy-kickers.  </p>
<p>I too think it is disturbing when anthropology or other studies of prehistoric peoples are male-centric.  Unless a fossil is of a male (which sometimes can be told from cranial morphology), then its stupid to call something &#8220;Neanderthal man&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t think of this as active sexism, i.e., I don&#8217;t think that referring to &#8220;ancient man&#8221; keeps women out of anthropology.  I seems to me to be more pervasive, passive sexism, wherein human accomplishments (such as migration) are just assumed to be done by males.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38139</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just curious, who did actually make the website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just curious, who did actually make the website?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38126</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 01:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way coool - love it! Thanks for that link.

Now, the next time we have a discussion about the &quot;Out of Africa&quot; theory... we have a great resource! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way coool &#8211; love it! Thanks for that link.</p>
<p>Now, the next time we have a discussion about the &#8220;Out of Africa&#8221; theory&#8230; we have a great resource! <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: diana</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-38030</link>
		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why assume that the people who made the movie are atheists?&quot;

I&#039;m not. 

&quot;…or that, by linking to this movie, that Hemant is passively supporting the marginalization of women? &quot;

I didn&#039;t.

I pointed out that this particular thing, whatever else its merits, was sexist.

You are implying all sorts of things I didn&#039;t say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why assume that the people who made the movie are atheists?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not. </p>
<p>&#8220;…or that, by linking to this movie, that Hemant is passively supporting the marginalization of women? &#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I pointed out that this particular thing, whatever else its merits, was sexist.</p>
<p>You are implying all sorts of things I didn&#8217;t say.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-37928</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why assume that the people who made the movie are atheists?  

...or that, by linking to this movie, that Hemant is passively supporting the marginalization of women?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why assume that the people who made the movie are atheists?  </p>
<p>&#8230;or that, by linking to this movie, that Hemant is passively supporting the marginalization of women?</p>
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		<title>By: diana</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-37880</link>
		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is excellent but I object strongly to the following:

1. The title &quot;Journey of Mankind&quot; - should have been &quot;Journey of Humankind.&quot;

2. The representative picture on the intro--male, of course. Why not a man and a woman?

3. Reference to Neanderthals as &quot;neanderthal man.&quot; Presumably to avoid the problem of referring to them as &quot;human&quot;? (Why not just Neanderthals then?)

These are not quibbles. I&#039;m tired of seeing women marginalized. Man is not the measure of all things. Sexism is not scientific. Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is excellent but I object strongly to the following:</p>
<p>1. The title &#8220;Journey of Mankind&#8221; &#8211; should have been &#8220;Journey of Humankind.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. The representative picture on the intro&#8211;male, of course. Why not a man and a woman?</p>
<p>3. Reference to Neanderthals as &#8220;neanderthal man.&#8221; Presumably to avoid the problem of referring to them as &#8220;human&#8221;? (Why not just Neanderthals then?)</p>
<p>These are not quibbles. I&#8217;m tired of seeing women marginalized. Man is not the measure of all things. Sexism is not scientific. Sadly, it seems even atheists can be sexists.</p>
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		<title>By: Anatoly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anatoly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyNat</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/05/human-migration-a-brief-history/#comment-37842</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyNat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way cool stuff.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way cool stuff.  Thanks.</p>
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