Comments on: The Italian Rational Response Squad http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/ by Hemant Mehta Sat, 26 May 2012 14:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Frank http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-52190 Frank Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:12:54 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-52190 An English version of the actus defectionis is available on the Freedom From Religion Party Australia website www.freedomparty.org.au An English version of the actus defectionis is available on the Freedom From Religion Party Australia website http://www.freedomparty.org.au

]]> By: Barbara Stocker http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-44036 Barbara Stocker Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:29:00 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-44036 The Rationalist Society of St. Louis has offered debaptism for quite a while. Visit our website at www.rssl.org for further info. The Rationalist Society of St. Louis has offered debaptism for quite a while. Visit our website at http://www.rssl.org for further info.

]]> By: UAAR Ultimissime » Archivio » “Sbattezzo” su Friendly Atheist http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39581 UAAR Ultimissime » Archivio » “Sbattezzo” su Friendly Atheist Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:03:19 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39581 [...] Anche il più popolare blog ateo del mondo, Friendly Atheist, curato da Hemant Mehta, ha dato notizia dell’articolo sullo sbattezzo pubblicato su Wired. Il post, The Italian Rational Response Squad, ha suscitato qualche curiosità tra i lettori: c’è anche chi vorrebbe “sbattezzarsi” dalla Chiesa ortodossa… ateismo, Friendly Atheist, Hemant Mehta, sbattezzo, USA [...] [...] Anche il più popolare blog ateo del mondo, Friendly Atheist, curato da Hemant Mehta, ha dato notizia dell’articolo sullo sbattezzo pubblicato su Wired. Il post, The Italian Rational Response Squad, ha suscitato qualche curiosità tra i lettori: c’è anche chi vorrebbe “sbattezzarsi” dalla Chiesa ortodossa… ateismo, Friendly Atheist, Hemant Mehta, sbattezzo, USA [...]

]]> By: Ric http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39577 Ric Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:36:14 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39577 This link is the google automatically translation of our UAAR home page... goodbye from Italy http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.uaar.it/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.uaar.it/%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG This link is the google automatically translation of our UAAR home page…
goodbye from Italy

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.uaar.it/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.uaar.it/%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

]]> By: Carlo http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39555 Carlo Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:21:28 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39555 I'm Italian and I know what UAAR does. The debaptism campaign is also called "bonifica statistica" that is a way to clean the Italian statistics on the number of Catholics (the number of them is calculated on the number of baptisms... and it helps in some way the Catholic Church to get money). I’m Italian and I know what UAAR does. The debaptism campaign is also called “bonifica statistica” that is a way to clean the Italian statistics on the number of Catholics (the number of them is calculated on the number of baptisms… and it helps in some way the Catholic Church to get money).

]]> By: Flavio http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39543 Flavio Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:07:14 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39543 You don't need a permission to be a disbeliever even if you were baptised, but the record of your baptism on the parish register will legally qualify you as a catholic until you get the 'debaptism', which adds a note on the register stating that you don't want to be part of the Catholic church anymore (beacuse you are atheist, or because you don't agree with the church in opposing gay rights, unmarried partners, contraception...). This is a procedure made up by UAAR and the Italian authority for privacy protection and something similar exists in other European countries. It would be very interesting to know if debaptism can be accomplished in the US! I think you only need some privacy law that entitle you to get your personal data corrected in the parish register. You don’t need a permission to be a disbeliever even if you were baptised, but the record of your baptism on the parish register will legally qualify you as a catholic until you get the ‘debaptism’, which adds a note on the register stating that you don’t want to be part of the Catholic church anymore (beacuse you are atheist, or because you don’t agree with the church in opposing gay rights, unmarried partners, contraception…).

This is a procedure made up by UAAR and the Italian authority for privacy protection and something similar exists in other European countries.
It would be very interesting to know if debaptism can be accomplished in the US! I think you only need some privacy law that entitle you to get your personal data corrected in the parish register.

]]> By: Maria http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39426 Maria Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:23:55 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39426 I've left the church in all but name pretty much. I'm fast on my way to becoming a deist. I have to laugh at the letter. I'm not going to bother, b/c I really don't care, and I suppose I could always change my mind again. So if they want to count me for their little number game, I really don't care. But you gotta wonder how many other people there are like me who are "counted", but aren't really "there", if you know what I mean. I don't hate the church (although there is much I dislike), I just don't want to be bothered with it. There is much about organized religion I'm finding increasingly distasteful. btw, if there's any other "deist types" on here, give me a holler. I’ve left the church in all but name pretty much. I’m fast on my way to becoming a deist. I have to laugh at the letter. I’m not going to bother, b/c I really don’t care, and I suppose I could always change my mind again. So if they want to count me for their little number game, I really don’t care. But you gotta wonder how many other people there are like me who are “counted”, but aren’t really “there”, if you know what I mean. I don’t hate the church (although there is much I dislike), I just don’t want to be bothered with it. There is much about organized religion I’m finding increasingly distasteful.

btw, if there’s any other “deist types” on here, give me a holler.

]]> By: Anatoly http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39425 Anatoly Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:16:00 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39425 I wonder, can I get an equivalent for Eastern Orthodox denomination? I wonder, can I get an equivalent for Eastern Orthodox denomination?

]]> By: jtwurth http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39320 jtwurth Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:09:20 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39320 I found out about this when my wife and I were getting married. She is a Catholic and I am a 'Non-Practicing Catholic' according to the priest. He did tell me about this policy and that to officially leave some official paperwork must be sent to the parish announcing my defection from the church. He didn't go into details about how this could be accomplished. Personally I'd love to see an English version of something like this. When I got married I was unsure of my beliefs but am now certainly an atheist and feel up for an old fashion debaptism. I found out about this when my wife and I were getting married. She is a Catholic and I am a ‘Non-Practicing Catholic’ according to the priest. He did tell me about this policy and that to officially leave some official paperwork must be sent to the parish announcing my defection from the church. He didn’t go into details about how this could be accomplished. Personally I’d love to see an English version of something like this. When I got married I was unsure of my beliefs but am now certainly an atheist and feel up for an old fashion debaptism.

]]> By: Steelman http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39249 Steelman Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:22:44 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/06/08/the-italian-rational-response-squad/#comment-39249 It's my understanding that there's a <a href="http://www.irr.org/mit/exit-letters.html" rel="nofollow">similar process</a> involved in leaving the Mormon church. I'm still on their roles because of the momentous decision I made at the "age of accountability" (8yrs old) to be baptized into the LDS church. My parents switched religions a couple of years later, but I'm still in the church's records contributing to their growth figures. I wonder if those figures would go negative if everyone who no longer considers themselves part of that faith submitted an exit letter? It’s my understanding that there’s a similar process involved in leaving the Mormon church. I’m still on their roles because of the momentous decision I made at the “age of accountability” (8yrs old) to be baptized into the LDS church. My parents switched religions a couple of years later, but I’m still in the church’s records contributing to their growth figures. I wonder if those figures would go negative if everyone who no longer considers themselves part of that faith submitted an exit letter?

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