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	<title>Comments on: John Safran Discussing Atheists</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-52440</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see him making apperances overseas, i love John Safran Vs God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see him making apperances overseas, i love John Safran Vs God.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-44245</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Big Bang in the fewest words…&lt;/em&gt;

Sciencespeak for &quot;Poof - God did it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Big Bang in the fewest words…</em></p>
<p>Sciencespeak for &#8220;Poof &#8211; God did it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Just Too Stupid&#8230; &#171; Eclectics Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-44244</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m Just Too Stupid&#8230; &#171; Eclectics Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even so. I will take up the Friendly Athiest&#8217;s challenge of trying to explain the Big Bang in the shortest number of words. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even so. I will take up the Friendly Athiest&#8217;s challenge of trying to explain the Big Bang in the shortest number of words. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-43903</link>
		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Matter and energy are not eternal. Matter can be converted to energy and the reverse as well. Remember E=m*c^2? That equation states the amount of energy (E) released by converting a given mass(m) of matter times the speed of light squared.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s more a conversion of form.  When people say that matter/energy are eternal, they&#039;re usually getting at a conservation principle, like the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Matter and energy are not eternal. Matter can be converted to energy and the reverse as well. Remember E=m*c^2? That equation states the amount of energy (E) released by converting a given mass(m) of matter times the speed of light squared.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s more a conversion of form.  When people say that matter/energy are eternal, they&#8217;re usually getting at a conservation principle, like the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas G</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-43883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wayofthemaster.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ray Comfort&lt;/a&gt; making this video instead of a comedian I&#039;d point out the fallacicy of Bifurcation, and any other logical fallacies I could find.

Using Belief in it&#039;s two meanings. (belief based on evidence) and Faith (belief w/o evidence) one could still accept both a God and the Big Bang.Theory. 
(Just have Faith in a God who does things that way)

Oh and of course it&#039;s not necessary to know how something works to doubt that it works magically via a Deity. In otherwords &#039;You need Faith to be an atheist&#039; is a bogus argument.  (God of the Gaps argument)

Hey I am pointing out fallacies :
  - I never said if and only if Ray Compfort had made the video -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were <a href="http://www.wayofthemaster.com" rel="nofollow">Ray Comfort</a> making this video instead of a comedian I&#8217;d point out the fallacicy of Bifurcation, and any other logical fallacies I could find.</p>
<p>Using Belief in it&#8217;s two meanings. (belief based on evidence) and Faith (belief w/o evidence) one could still accept both a God and the Big Bang.Theory.<br />
(Just have Faith in a God who does things that way)</p>
<p>Oh and of course it&#8217;s not necessary to know how something works to doubt that it works magically via a Deity. In otherwords &#8216;You need Faith to be an atheist&#8217; is a bogus argument.  (God of the Gaps argument)</p>
<p>Hey I am pointing out fallacies :<br />
  &#8211; I never said if and only if Ray Compfort had made the video -</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@cautions&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m not quite sure if that comment was directed at Safran, or other people that might ACTUALLY hold the view he&#039;s talking about in that clip. But, just for the record, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Safran&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he is a comedian&lt;/a&gt; (of sorts).

&lt;strong&gt;@Everyone Else&lt;/strong&gt;

For us Aussies, we can listen to him on the Radio every Sunday night, but if anyone else is interested, he has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/podcast.htm#safran&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a weekly podcast&lt;/a&gt; (basically, the Sunday night show without the music breaks).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@cautions</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure if that comment was directed at Safran, or other people that might ACTUALLY hold the view he&#8217;s talking about in that clip. But, just for the record, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Safran" rel="nofollow">he is a comedian</a> (of sorts).</p>
<p><strong>@Everyone Else</strong></p>
<p>For us Aussies, we can listen to him on the Radio every Sunday night, but if anyone else is interested, he has <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/podcast.htm#safran" rel="nofollow">a weekly podcast</a> (basically, the Sunday night show without the music breaks).</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Lemma</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-43728</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Lemma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We don’t know that the matter is eternal. Just that it can’t be destroyed now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Matter and energy are not eternal. Matter can be converted to energy and the reverse as well. Remember E=m*c^2? That equation states the amount of energy (E) released by converting a given mass(m) of matter times the speed of light squared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We don’t know that the matter is eternal. Just that it can’t be destroyed now. </p></blockquote>
<p>Matter and energy are not eternal. Matter can be converted to energy and the reverse as well. Remember E=m*c^2? That equation states the amount of energy (E) released by converting a given mass(m) of matter times the speed of light squared.</p>
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		<title>By: Anatoly</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/06/16/john-safran-discussing-atheists/#comment-43686</link>
		<dc:creator>Anatoly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch... I&#039;m an arts student in the humanities (and read Brief History of Time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch&#8230; I&#8217;m an arts student in the humanities (and read Brief History of Time).</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He reminds me of something Woody Allen once said to his niece in &lt;em&gt;Crimes and Misdemeanors:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;Don&#039;t listen to what your teachers tell ya, you know. Don&#039;t pay attention. Just, just see what they look like and that&#039;s how you&#039;ll know what life is really gonna be like&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He reminds me of something Woody Allen once said to his niece in <em>Crimes and Misdemeanors:</em>  &#8220;Don&#8217;t listen to what your teachers tell ya, you know. Don&#8217;t pay attention. Just, just see what they look like and that&#8217;s how you&#8217;ll know what life is really gonna be like&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious</title>
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		<dc:creator>cautious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people who aren&#039;t comedians who have this attitude are highly annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people who aren&#8217;t comedians who have this attitude are highly annoying.</p>
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