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	<title>Comments on: Can Any Computer People Help Me Out?</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-52497</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemant, the apostrophe thing happened again, this time just when I  added one word to my comment during the &quot;edit&quot; period.  No block quoting was attempted.  Now my first comment on the posting about the ground refuting the Creation Museum is filled with bizarro punctuation marks that my computer doesn&#039;t even have.  It&#039;s a mess.  I didn&#039;t realize how many apostrophes I use.  I&#039;m going to try it here to see if it happens again with a phrase with an apostrophe in it:

Hemant&#039;s new software has problems with apostrophes.  &#039;

Hmm.  Didn&#039;t happen.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemant, the apostrophe thing happened again, this time just when I  added one word to my comment during the &#8220;edit&#8221; period.  No block quoting was attempted.  Now my first comment on the posting about the ground refuting the Creation Museum is filled with bizarro punctuation marks that my computer doesn&#8217;t even have.  It&#8217;s a mess.  I didn&#8217;t realize how many apostrophes I use.  I&#8217;m going to try it here to see if it happens again with a phrase with an apostrophe in it:</p>
<p>Hemant&#8217;s new software has problems with apostrophes.  &#8216;</p>
<p>Hmm.  Didn&#8217;t happen.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-52419</link>
		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you guys aren’t joking about [div] being an actual command, are you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope.  Think div as in divider.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Because [/div] is just too precious (the end of divinity)….&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s right: CSS is all an atheist plot. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you guys aren’t joking about [div] being an actual command, are you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.  Think div as in divider.</p>
<blockquote><p>Because [/div] is just too precious (the end of divinity)….</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s right: CSS is all an atheist plot. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-52387</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try prayer?  ;-)

Gotta ask - you guys aren&#039;t joking about [div] being an actual command, are you?  Because [/div] is just too precious (the end of divinity)....  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try prayer?  <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gotta ask &#8211; you guys aren&#8217;t joking about [div] being an actual command, are you?  Because [/div] is just too precious (the end of divinity)&#8230;.  <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FriendlyAtheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-52384</link>
		<dc:creator>FriendlyAtheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard-- That is odd... I fixed the quotation above.  Perhaps another reader has a suggestion on how to fix that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard&#8211; That is odd&#8230; I fixed the quotation above.  Perhaps another reader has a suggestion on how to fix that?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-52294</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemant, I just discovered another glitch.  In a blockquoted statement, apostrophes become very weird collections of random punctuation marks.  The more the page is reloaded during the 15 minute &quot;edit&quot; period, the worse it gets.  See the blockquote in my comment in your Pray for Rain/Rain Dance posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemant, I just discovered another glitch.  In a blockquoted statement, apostrophes become very weird collections of random punctuation marks.  The more the page is reloaded during the 15 minute &#8220;edit&#8221; period, the worse it gets.  See the blockquote in my comment in your Pray for Rain/Rain Dance posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tao Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-51920</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not very familiar with WP, it does seem like your div tags are not nested properly.

I could be wrong but I&#039;m assuming:

( div id=&quot;content&quot; ) 

is supposed to be for the main column.  In this case, it is not closed until the end, at the very bottom of the &quot;side bar&quot; code.  the &quot;wrapper&quot; tag does not appear to be closed at all.  

If the problem only happens on the comments page, then I think what is happening is the /div  at the beginning of sidebar.php is being borrowed by your Live Preview code, while it was supposed to close the &quot;content&quot; tag.  
The fix should be to add a /div tag at the bottom of  the Live Preview code. 

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not very familiar with WP, it does seem like your div tags are not nested properly.</p>
<p>I could be wrong but I&#8217;m assuming:</p>
<p>( div id=&#8221;content&#8221; ) </p>
<p>is supposed to be for the main column.  In this case, it is not closed until the end, at the very bottom of the &#8220;side bar&#8221; code.  the &#8220;wrapper&#8221; tag does not appear to be closed at all.  </p>
<p>If the problem only happens on the comments page, then I think what is happening is the /div  at the beginning of sidebar.php is being borrowed by your Live Preview code, while it was supposed to close the &#8220;content&#8221; tag.<br />
The fix should be to add a /div tag at the bottom of  the Live Preview code. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Aerik</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-51918</link>
		<dc:creator>Aerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you know what?  I just made a simple user style that only said &quot;#sidebar { float: right; }&quot; and the sidebar just moved to the right of the same column as your comment area.  Which means you have #sidebar nested incorrectly.

It looks like you have it set up so that you have the content, comments, and sidebar as 3 divs inside the screen wrapper, but you have both #sidebar and #content set to float: left.

div#Wrapper {
div#content (left) 
ol#comments (?)
div#sidebar (left)
}

Surely you see what&#039;s wrong with this, right?  You&#039;ve been managing to get your sidebar on your right not because you formatted it that way, but because browsers are forgiving for bad html.


div#Wrapper {
&gt; div#content (left) {
&gt;&gt;  ol#comments (?) }
&gt;div#sidebar (right)
}

#footer
#akst_form

See that?  Nest the comment list inside the content, so that the contnet (stuff you wrote) and the comments float to the left as one unit, and the sidebar to the right as another unit.

But from what I understand about wordpress themes, you can&#039;t access HTML directly, right?  I use blogger, and I can manipulate this stuff as much as I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you know what?  I just made a simple user style that only said &#8220;#sidebar { float: right; }&#8221; and the sidebar just moved to the right of the same column as your comment area.  Which means you have #sidebar nested incorrectly.</p>
<p>It looks like you have it set up so that you have the content, comments, and sidebar as 3 divs inside the screen wrapper, but you have both #sidebar and #content set to float: left.</p>
<p>div#Wrapper {<br />
div#content (left)<br />
ol#comments (?)<br />
div#sidebar (left)<br />
}</p>
<p>Surely you see what&#8217;s wrong with this, right?  You&#8217;ve been managing to get your sidebar on your right not because you formatted it that way, but because browsers are forgiving for bad html.</p>
<p>div#Wrapper {<br />
&gt; div#content (left) {<br />
&gt;&gt;  ol#comments (?) }<br />
&gt;div#sidebar (right)<br />
}</p>
<p>#footer<br />
#akst_form</p>
<p>See that?  Nest the comment list inside the content, so that the contnet (stuff you wrote) and the comments float to the left as one unit, and the sidebar to the right as another unit.</p>
<p>But from what I understand about wordpress themes, you can&#8217;t access HTML directly, right?  I use blogger, and I can manipulate this stuff as much as I want.</p>
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		<title>By: rekounas</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-51917</link>
		<dc:creator>rekounas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The error console complains about the following:

Error: quicktagsL10n is not defined
Source File: http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/js/quicktags.js
Line: 263

Something wrong with the quick tag that is making your style go messed for the single view page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The error console complains about the following:</p>
<p>Error: quicktagsL10n is not defined<br />
Source File: <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/js/quicktags.js" rel="nofollow">http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-includes/js/quicktags.js</a><br />
Line: 263</p>
<p>Something wrong with the quick tag that is making your style go messed for the single view page.</p>
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		<title>By: FriendlyAtheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/06/can-any-computer-people-help-me-out/#comment-51915</link>
		<dc:creator>FriendlyAtheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aerik-- 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I just looked at your “styles.css” and it has both #content and #sidebar set to float: left. That’s probably the crux. When I have javascript disabled, the sidebar sits on the right, so probably you mean to have the sidebar set to float: right;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When I change the sidebar to float:right, it still stayed underneath my post (but to the right side of the post...)

Any other suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aerik&#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>I just looked at your “styles.css” and it has both #content and #sidebar set to float: left. That’s probably the crux. When I have javascript disabled, the sidebar sits on the right, so probably you mean to have the sidebar set to float: right;</p></blockquote>
<p>When I change the sidebar to float:right, it still stayed underneath my post (but to the right side of the post&#8230;)</p>
<p>Any other suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Wintersmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Wintersmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... the sidebar behaves correctly in Konqueror 3.57 and Opera 9.21; Firefox 2.0 does display the bad behavior you mentioned. It&#039;s probably a bug in Firefox&#039;s CSS layout rendering. And there is probably some workaround, but I don&#039;t know what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; the sidebar behaves correctly in Konqueror 3.57 and Opera 9.21; Firefox 2.0 does display the bad behavior you mentioned. It&#8217;s probably a bug in Firefox&#8217;s CSS layout rendering. And there is probably some workaround, but I don&#8217;t know what it is.</p>
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