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	<title>Comments on: Rain Dance?  Crazy.  Rain Prayer?  Of course.</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/07/rain-dance-crazy-rain-prayer-of-course/#comment-52567</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, that&#039;s right about the cultivated banana.  Well the wild ones do sprout from seeds once in a while, otherwise we wouldn&#039;t have the Best Proof Of God There Is In The Whole Wide World.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, that&#8217;s right about the cultivated banana.  Well the wild ones do sprout from seeds once in a while, otherwise we wouldn&#8217;t have the Best Proof Of God There Is In The Whole Wide World.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/07/rain-dance-crazy-rain-prayer-of-course/#comment-52531</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised at all.
The Christian&#039;s entire world view is based upon taking as true some unverified and unverifiable dubious story.

Oh, and Richard, if a banana did grow that way, it might convince a lot of people to believe in god since bananas don&#039;t usually grow from seeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised at all.<br />
The Christian&#8217;s entire world view is based upon taking as true some unverified and unverifiable dubious story.</p>
<p>Oh, and Richard, if a banana did grow that way, it might convince a lot of people to believe in god since bananas don&#8217;t usually grow from seeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it pretty insulting to atheists to assume in times of stress that we invent any type of supernatural anything. Be it a God who will let us into a heaven, or a God who will produce a miracle to save our life. -- Yet theists always assume we will.

I also find it hypocritical and selfish to pray in the first place, even if I did believe in a God. Why should God favor me by creating me in a land without a war inside it&#039;s boarders, while not giving a damn to the Iraqi civilians for example. -- Or on a personal more identifyable note, If a hundred people die in a plane crash, with two survivors it&#039;s selfish of the survivors to think it a miracle God saved them. -- In fact shouldn&#039;t it be a safety design factor to avoid death by crashing.

I saw an add recently, in a church of course, for Berevement help run by an interfaith minister. One line which stood out was &quot;If I don&#039;t have faith now, how can I get it.&quot; Question: if I don&#039;t have faith, why would I want it. -- If I don&#039;t have a need to envision my great great ... great grand mother in a heaven, why do I suddenly need to envision my beloved deceased partner in one ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it pretty insulting to atheists to assume in times of stress that we invent any type of supernatural anything. Be it a God who will let us into a heaven, or a God who will produce a miracle to save our life. &#8212; Yet theists always assume we will.</p>
<p>I also find it hypocritical and selfish to pray in the first place, even if I did believe in a God. Why should God favor me by creating me in a land without a war inside it&#8217;s boarders, while not giving a damn to the Iraqi civilians for example. &#8212; Or on a personal more identifyable note, If a hundred people die in a plane crash, with two survivors it&#8217;s selfish of the survivors to think it a miracle God saved them. &#8212; In fact shouldn&#8217;t it be a safety design factor to avoid death by crashing.</p>
<p>I saw an add recently, in a church of course, for Berevement help run by an interfaith minister. One line which stood out was &#8220;If I don&#8217;t have faith now, how can I get it.&#8221; Question: if I don&#8217;t have faith, why would I want it. &#8212; If I don&#8217;t have a need to envision my great great &#8230; great grand mother in a heaven, why do I suddenly need to envision my beloved deceased partner in one ?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/07/rain-dance-crazy-rain-prayer-of-course/#comment-52287</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, another contrived, pat story entitled The Desperate Disbeliever at Death&#039;s Door.  People never seem to get tired of the same dumb story.  I can instantly make these up:  A Christian misses the same slippery curve the very next day.  His car flips several times and lands upside down.  He prays to God in full and complete faith that God will help him.  The gas tank explodes and he&#039;s burned to a crisp. There&#039;s no mysterious guy on the road flagging down help so over several days his barbecued body is scattered all over the place by coyotes.  The End.  

Only &lt;em&gt;MORONS&lt;/em&gt; give any credence to unconfirmed stories. They&#039;re the modern version of fairy tales. Get me some Peptol Bismol.

If people want to pray for rain, they should first think about all the innocent atheists and Christians out on our dangerous slippery highways who are going to miss the curves and end up upside down with gasoline leaking all over them.  Pretty damn selfish, praying for rain like that.  Maybe they&#039;ll think twice and put up with the drought.  Otherwise we&#039;ll end up with a lot of converted atheists and crispy Christians becoming coyote chow.  Yuck to both.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Living on a farm, my parents pray for rain all the time. When it rains, it&#039;s a blessing from God. When it doesn&#039;t rain, it is not God&#039;s will for it to rain.
I don&#039;t understand this. They&#039;d get the same results praying to a banana. Or doing a rain dance. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Careful, bananas are beginning to have a big significance in some religious circles.  Maybe if they prayed to the banana after burying it in the ground, and watered it whether it rained or not they&#039;d at least get more bananas.  The rain dance wouldn&#039;t hurt, unless they did it right on top of where they buried the banana.  One should always temper one&#039;s rituals with a little pragmatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, another contrived, pat story entitled The Desperate Disbeliever at Death&#8217;s Door.  People never seem to get tired of the same dumb story.  I can instantly make these up:  A Christian misses the same slippery curve the very next day.  His car flips several times and lands upside down.  He prays to God in full and complete faith that God will help him.  The gas tank explodes and he&#8217;s burned to a crisp. There&#8217;s no mysterious guy on the road flagging down help so over several days his barbecued body is scattered all over the place by coyotes.  The End.  </p>
<p>Only <em>MORONS</em> give any credence to unconfirmed stories. They&#8217;re the modern version of fairy tales. Get me some Peptol Bismol.</p>
<p>If people want to pray for rain, they should first think about all the innocent atheists and Christians out on our dangerous slippery highways who are going to miss the curves and end up upside down with gasoline leaking all over them.  Pretty damn selfish, praying for rain like that.  Maybe they&#8217;ll think twice and put up with the drought.  Otherwise we&#8217;ll end up with a lot of converted atheists and crispy Christians becoming coyote chow.  Yuck to both.</p>
<blockquote><p>Living on a farm, my parents pray for rain all the time. When it rains, it&#8217;s a blessing from God. When it doesn&#8217;t rain, it is not God&#8217;s will for it to rain.<br />
I don&#8217;t understand this. They&#8217;d get the same results praying to a banana. Or doing a rain dance. </p></blockquote>
<p>Careful, bananas are beginning to have a big significance in some religious circles.  Maybe if they prayed to the banana after burying it in the ground, and watered it whether it rained or not they&#8217;d at least get more bananas.  The rain dance wouldn&#8217;t hurt, unless they did it right on top of where they buried the banana.  One should always temper one&#8217;s rituals with a little pragmatism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellan</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/07/rain-dance-crazy-rain-prayer-of-course/#comment-52277</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living on a farm, my parents pray for rain all the time. When it rains, it&#039;s a blessing from God. When it doesn&#039;t rain, it is not God&#039;s will for it to rain.

I don&#039;t understand this. They&#039;d get the same results praying to a banana. Or doing a rain dance.

About the story, these things happen all the time. Christians love to tell these awe-inspiring stories, but never cite a source. Who knows where this one came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living on a farm, my parents pray for rain all the time. When it rains, it&#8217;s a blessing from God. When it doesn&#8217;t rain, it is not God&#8217;s will for it to rain.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand this. They&#8217;d get the same results praying to a banana. Or doing a rain dance.</p>
<p>About the story, these things happen all the time. Christians love to tell these awe-inspiring stories, but never cite a source. Who knows where this one came from.</p>
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