Comments on: The Progress of Science. Minus the Science. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/ by Hemant Mehta Sat, 26 May 2012 16:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Image Relaxation Videos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-799958 Image Relaxation Videos Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:26:00 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-799958 If we all relaxed to image relaxation videos the world may be a better place. Image relaxation videos show you lovely natural scenery whilst listening to peaceful music to relax you. You can read a description of image relaxation video types here: <a href="http://www.imagerelaxationvideos.com" rel="nofollow">Image Relaxation Videos</a> If we all relaxed to image relaxation videos the world may be a better place. Image relaxation videos show you lovely natural scenery whilst listening to peaceful music to relax you. You can read a description of image relaxation video types here: Image Relaxation Videos

]]> By: Viktor http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-401264 Viktor Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:33:53 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-401264 It's easy to laugh at something we know nothing about, but all we do is display our lack of paradigm to integrate the new information. Edison was considered crazy, so was Marconi and Newton, and Bruno and Copernicus were burned for being too ahead of their time. If you study history of science, you will see that practically every originator of a new idea was first laughed at, then persecuted or at least discredited, then accepted, and finally revered. Many innovators were not that fortunate. Have you heard of Reich or Kervran? Most likely Tesla, but how about the discoverer of the cause of cancer Otto Warburg? And he got 2 Nobel Prizes! His truth is inconvenient to the disease industry, that's all. Want to know more? Geniusindiapers at g mail. It’s easy to laugh at something we know nothing about, but all we do is display our lack of paradigm to integrate the new information. Edison was considered crazy, so was Marconi and Newton, and Bruno and Copernicus were burned for being too ahead of their time. If you study history of science, you will see that practically every originator of a new idea was first laughed at, then persecuted or at least discredited, then accepted, and finally revered. Many innovators were not that fortunate. Have you heard of Reich or Kervran? Most likely Tesla, but how about the discoverer of the cause of cancer Otto Warburg? And he got 2 Nobel Prizes! His truth is inconvenient to the disease industry, that’s all. Want to know more? Geniusindiapers at g mail.

]]> By: John M. Knapp, LMSW http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58516 John M. Knapp, LMSW Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:36:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58516 Many critics consider Transcendental Meditation a cult led by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. For an alternative view of the TM Movement, readers may be interested in checking out <a href="http://tmfree.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">TM-Free Blog</a>, <a href="http://trancenet.net/" rel="nofollow">Trancenet.net</a>, or my counseling web site, <a href="http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/" rel="nofollow">KnappFamilyCounseling.com</a>, where those recovering from TM and similar groups will find information. John M. Knapp, LMSW <a href="http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/" rel="nofollow">KnappFamilyCounseling.com</a> Many critics consider Transcendental Meditation a cult led by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. For an alternative view of the TM Movement, readers may be interested in checking out TM-Free Blog, Trancenet.net, or my counseling web site, KnappFamilyCounseling.com, where those recovering from TM and similar groups will find information.

John M. Knapp, LMSW
KnappFamilyCounseling.com

]]> By: Cody Clark http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58144 Cody Clark Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:20:51 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58144 Isn't this stuff kind of like shooting fish in a barrell? Out there is an endless parade of spiritually nutty/immature/naive/obnoxious people. They do all sorts of stupid/laugable/atrocious/evil things in the name of their respective religions. I'm not saying that's not a problem. It is. But it is a predictable one. Isn’t this stuff kind of like shooting fish in a barrell?

Out there is an endless parade of spiritually nutty/immature/naive/obnoxious people. They do all sorts of stupid/laugable/atrocious/evil things in the name of their respective religions.

I’m not saying that’s not a problem. It is. But it is a predictable one.

]]> By: mollishka http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58141 mollishka Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:08:59 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58141 <strong>@THz:</strong> I read that as sqrt(1) % ... so .... 1 % .... so maybe their math is off :-D @THz: I read that as sqrt(1) % … so …. 1 % …. so maybe their math is off :-D

]]> By: Lee http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58085 Lee Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:16:35 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58085 I think these meditators should be held responsible for not focusing their <em>scientific</em> 'powers' where they are most needed: poverty, child abuse, starvation, violence, cancer, birth defects, disease... after all, if only 8,000 of them are needed for world peace, then we could solve ALL problems and have a perfect world if we recruit only about 4,000 more. But wait... doesn't this whole story sound familiar? I think I may be experiencing a bit of Deja Vu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Vincent_Peale I think these meditators should be held responsible for not focusing their scientific ‘powers’ where they are most needed: poverty, child abuse, starvation, violence, cancer, birth defects, disease… after all, if only 8,000 of them are needed for world peace, then we could solve ALL problems and have a perfect world if we recruit only about 4,000 more.

But wait… doesn’t this whole story sound familiar? I think I may be experiencing a bit of Deja Vu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Vincent_Peale

]]> By: Maria http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58084 Maria Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:08:24 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58084 <blockquote>Is your problem with meditation or the inflated claims made for it by these people? </blockquote> The inflated claims for me. I use meditation quite a bit for personal relaxation.

Is your problem with meditation or the inflated claims made for it by these people?

The inflated claims for me. I use meditation quite a bit for personal relaxation.

]]> By: olvlzl, no ism, no ist http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58071 olvlzl, no ism, no ist Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:20:49 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58071 Is your problem with meditation or the inflated claims made for it by these people? As long as they're using no public funds or resources I say let them do whatever they want as long as no one is getting hurt. And by that I don't mean losing money in the stock market. The stock market is nothing but legal theft of the profits of other peoples' work. Is your problem with meditation or the inflated claims made for it by these people?

As long as they’re using no public funds or resources I say let them do whatever they want as long as no one is getting hurt. And by that I don’t mean losing money in the stock market. The stock market is nothing but legal theft of the profits of other peoples’ work.

]]> By: Taisen http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58041 Taisen Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:52:29 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58041 TM researchers have indeed published in the region of 600 papers. Some of them are even quite good. But a lot of them aren't... the alleged 'Maharishi effect' has been cited as doing all sorts of things, statistically significantly, most often the reduction of crime rate and even reduction of political violence. It's twaddle, of course. It's a shame, because it means that even some of the better research that goes on at the "Maharishi University of Management" (I think that's what they still call themselves) gets tarnished with the same patina of self-delusion at best, academic impropriety at worst. Some of the neuropsych research by, e.g. Travis and Wallace, is actually really productive stuff. Sigh. [Travis F, Wallace RK. (1999). Autonomic and EEG patterns during eyes-closed rest and Transcendental Meditation (TM) practice: A basis for a neural model of TM practice. <em>Consciousness and Cognition</em>, 8, pp. 302-318.] TM researchers have indeed published in the region of 600 papers. Some of them are even quite good. But a lot of them aren’t… the alleged ‘Maharishi effect’ has been cited as doing all sorts of things, statistically significantly, most often the reduction of crime rate and even reduction of political violence. It’s twaddle, of course. It’s a shame, because it means that even some of the better research that goes on at the “Maharishi University of Management” (I think that’s what they still call themselves) gets tarnished with the same patina of self-delusion at best, academic impropriety at worst. Some of the neuropsych research by, e.g. Travis and Wallace, is actually really productive stuff. Sigh.

[Travis F, Wallace RK. (1999). Autonomic and EEG patterns during eyes-closed rest and Transcendental Meditation (TM) practice: A basis for a neural model of TM practice. Consciousness and Cognition, 8, pp. 302-318.]

]]> By: Richard Wade http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58036 Richard Wade Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:23:03 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/07/30/the-progress-of-science-minus-the-science/#comment-58036 THz, actually close to a billion people really really want the same thing at the same time every day and it's no big deal. Every day when the sun sets over the east coast of China, close to a billion people really really want dinner. And every day when the sun rises over the east coast of China, close to a billion people really really want to go to the bathroom. Not all of them get their dinner, but one way or another they all take a leak. THz, actually close to a billion people really really want the same thing at the same time every day and it’s no big deal. Every day when the sun sets over the east coast of China, close to a billion people really really want dinner. And every day when the sun rises over the east coast of China, close to a billion people really really want to go to the bathroom.

Not all of them get their dinner, but one way or another they all take a leak.

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