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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Under God&#8221; in the Pledge.  No, Not That One.</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; &#8220;Under God&#8221; Under Siege Again</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/08/02/under-god-in-the-pledge-no-not-that-one/#comment-65062</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; &#8220;Under God&#8221; Under Siege Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the month, Texas inserted the words &#8220;Under God&#8221; in the state&#8217;s Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge is mandatory for schoolchildren to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mikel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s odd...I&#039;ve lived in Kentucky all my life and never heard of a KY Pledge of Allegiance. I&#039;ll have to look that one up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s odd&#8230;I&#8217;ve lived in Kentucky all my life and never heard of a KY Pledge of Allegiance. I&#8217;ll have to look that one up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I went to high school in good ol&#039; Tomball (where Rep. Riddle hails from), and I was not surprised to read this article. To most Texans, the state is a country unto itself, and a god-fearing one at that. This was one of the main reasons I moved out of state the day after my senior year ended. 

I agree that loyalty oaths are frightening things, especially when coupled with religion. My heart goes out to the children being brainwashed by these fanatics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I went to high school in good ol&#8217; Tomball (where Rep. Riddle hails from), and I was not surprised to read this article. To most Texans, the state is a country unto itself, and a god-fearing one at that. This was one of the main reasons I moved out of state the day after my senior year ended. </p>
<p>I agree that loyalty oaths are frightening things, especially when coupled with religion. My heart goes out to the children being brainwashed by these fanatics.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anne Jackson said,

August 2, 2007 at 2:50 pm 

Texas IS God’s country. I kid, I kid. But as a girl-grown-up Texan, I didn’t realize most other states DIDNT have POA’s until I moved to Kansas when I was 21, and had a friend move from KS to TX. He refused (passoinately) to make his daughter say the Texas pledge. 

Now back in Tx, I still relish a bit in my Texas Pride (it really is something you are brainwashed with in the school systems but once you drink the koolaid, you can’t stop!)…so, my question as a Texan is when Texas secedes from the USA, will you still care?

I still kid. 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I may be in WV now, and I may have lived in Louisiana before then, and in Oklahoma before that, but I am Texas-born, and I have lived from one end of the state to the other. 

I am Houstonian by birth, and I&#039;ve also lived in Marshall and in Pampa. I also grew up saying the Texas pledge... back before I stopped being superstitious. 

My accent still gives me away... I continue to be pegged by traveling or transplanted fellow Texans, in spite of not having lived in Texas since 1980. I visited Gilley&#039;s before the Urban Cowboy movie (and before Gilley&#039;s burned down). I still like boots and hats, though I don&#039;t wear them around here because then I&#039;d really stick out like a sore thumb. At weddings I prefer to dance the Cotton-Eyed Joe over the Chicken Dance. And I still &lt;em&gt;feel&lt;/em&gt; like a Texan... I long to be back in the Lone Star State in spite of the flaws of her overabundant religious zealots.

I know exactly what you mean when you talk about that Texas Pride being so deeply engrained within your being. And I still cannot escape that Texas Pride. I find it totally ironic how my Texas Pride actually clashes with itself when it comes to my views on religion. It is that Texas Pride that causes me to bow up stubbornly with fists clenched and jaw set against doing something I am in disagreement with (&lt;em&gt;Remember the Alamo&lt;/em&gt;).
Reading your post has brought out that homesickness, again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anne Jackson said,</p>
<p>August 2, 2007 at 2:50 pm </p>
<p>Texas IS God’s country. I kid, I kid. But as a girl-grown-up Texan, I didn’t realize most other states DIDNT have POA’s until I moved to Kansas when I was 21, and had a friend move from KS to TX. He refused (passoinately) to make his daughter say the Texas pledge. </p>
<p>Now back in Tx, I still relish a bit in my Texas Pride (it really is something you are brainwashed with in the school systems but once you drink the koolaid, you can’t stop!)…so, my question as a Texan is when Texas secedes from the USA, will you still care?</p>
<p>I still kid. </p>
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<p>I may be in WV now, and I may have lived in Louisiana before then, and in Oklahoma before that, but I am Texas-born, and I have lived from one end of the state to the other. </p>
<p>I am Houstonian by birth, and I&#8217;ve also lived in Marshall and in Pampa. I also grew up saying the Texas pledge&#8230; back before I stopped being superstitious. </p>
<p>My accent still gives me away&#8230; I continue to be pegged by traveling or transplanted fellow Texans, in spite of not having lived in Texas since 1980. I visited Gilley&#8217;s before the Urban Cowboy movie (and before Gilley&#8217;s burned down). I still like boots and hats, though I don&#8217;t wear them around here because then I&#8217;d really stick out like a sore thumb. At weddings I prefer to dance the Cotton-Eyed Joe over the Chicken Dance. And I still <em>feel</em> like a Texan&#8230; I long to be back in the Lone Star State in spite of the flaws of her overabundant religious zealots.</p>
<p>I know exactly what you mean when you talk about that Texas Pride being so deeply engrained within your being. And I still cannot escape that Texas Pride. I find it totally ironic how my Texas Pride actually clashes with itself when it comes to my views on religion. It is that Texas Pride that causes me to bow up stubbornly with fists clenched and jaw set against doing something I am in disagreement with (<em>Remember the Alamo</em>).<br />
Reading your post has brought out that homesickness, again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, Texas, she just keeps giving and giving . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, Texas, she just keeps giving and giving . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Most Texans do not need to say this new version of the pledge in order to be either patriotic or religious,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. “This is the kind of politicking of religion that disturbs many Americans, including those who are deeply religious.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree. this is ridculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Most Texans do not need to say this new version of the pledge in order to be either patriotic or religious,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. “This is the kind of politicking of religion that disturbs many Americans, including those who are deeply religious.” </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree. this is ridculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see they fixed that &quot;highest teen pregnancy and STI rates in the nation&quot; thing and have time to work on what really matters- forcing children to pledge things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see they fixed that &#8220;highest teen pregnancy and STI rates in the nation&#8221; thing and have time to work on what really matters- forcing children to pledge things.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeymind</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeymind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, t3knomanser!

Whether or not the pledge is required in schools seems to vary according to local and individual preferences. There is only one public school that I know of in our area where the pledge is said regularly,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, t3knomanser!</p>
<p>Whether or not the pledge is required in schools seems to vary according to local and individual preferences. There is only one public school that I know of in our area where the pledge is said regularly,</p>
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		<title>By: t3knomanser</title>
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		<dc:creator>t3knomanser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I oppose the traditional Pledge of Allegiance and &quot;Under God&quot; is the least of my problems.

I do not have any allegiance to the flag. Nor does my loyalty lie with the republic for which it stands. My loyalty is to my fellow &lt;em&gt;citizens&lt;/em&gt;- not the government, republic, confederacy, state, etc. At best, the government is a necessary evil- it earns loyalty insofar as it behaves itself.

I also do not appreciate the grim irony- a public school mandated loyalty pledge that congratulates us on our liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose the traditional Pledge of Allegiance and &#8220;Under God&#8221; is the least of my problems.</p>
<p>I do not have any allegiance to the flag. Nor does my loyalty lie with the republic for which it stands. My loyalty is to my fellow <em>citizens</em>- not the government, republic, confederacy, state, etc. At best, the government is a necessary evil- it earns loyalty insofar as it behaves itself.</p>
<p>I also do not appreciate the grim irony- a public school mandated loyalty pledge that congratulates us on our liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: infideljoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>infideljoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting fact:

The original Pledge was written by a baptist minister and did not contain the &quot;under god&quot; part.  The knights of columbus (all male Catholic group) lobbied congress to get &quot;under god&quot; added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting fact:</p>
<p>The original Pledge was written by a baptist minister and did not contain the &#8220;under god&#8221; part.  The knights of columbus (all male Catholic group) lobbied congress to get &#8220;under god&#8221; added.</p>
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