Let’s Skew a Vote

Does anyone else think it’s interesting that “Jehovah’s Witness” is listed separately from “Christian”?

I wonder why? And why not, say, Mormon?

Okay, there’s one option that says “Atheism” and one that says “I’m not spiritual, I have no religion.”

Huh? How is that not the exact same damn thing? What idiot came up with that poll?

As I read this, one of the Google Ads is about Christian vs. Catholic, so it’s apparently not all that uncommon. In any event, if they’re splitting atheist, agnostic, and “no religion” into three answer choices, splitting Christian into two isn’t that bad.

I agree. it goes to show that there are different degrees of belief and non-belief. no religion doesn’t always mean atheist.

Okay, there’s one option that says “Atheism” and one that says “I’m not spiritual, I have no religion.”

Huh? How is that not the exact same damn thing? What idiot came up with that poll?

what it said was ” I am spiritual, but of no religion” that makes total sense and I’m glad they have it. this is a very fast growing group, many of which don’t consider themselves atheists or even agnostics.

Done. It seems we have a long ways to go looking at the poll results thus far. There are over 900 X-ians and over 200 atheists with over 200 saying they are non-religious. It’s a shame the two can’t be combined.

That’s tough for me. I consider myself to be an (strong) agnostic (weak) atheist. Since the poll seems to be about belief rather than knowledge, I went with “atheist.”

I was once asked by a co-worker if Catholics were christians. The worst part of it was, the woman asking me was raised as a Catholic. Hmmm….

I have heard one person raised Catholic say that they aren’t Christian. That Catholic and X-ian were two different things. I’m not sure how. They both follow the same doctrines from what I can tell, but then again, I’ve spent most of my life in the Anglican Communion, which is virtually the same as Catholic- only Protestant. Like Lutheran, the Church of England is a direct off shoot of Catholicism during the Reformation. So, IMHO, Catholics are from the original X-ian church. I really don’t get it.

“Vote early and vote often.” ~ Al Capone

hahahaha – just checked the poll;
christian 36%
atheism 45%
how long before they pull it?

The best part is the caption at the bottom of the results page:

“This is not a scientific poll”

Well, duh!

71% !!!!!

I was raised Catholic and believed myself to be Christian.
However, the protestant majority around me (in Oklahoma City) did not consider Catholics to be Christians.
For example, in highschool I was not welcome in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes because they didn’t consider me Christian.

I’ve never heard of a Catholic him(her)self claiming not to be Christian though.

I too was raised Catholic and had similar experiences. Maybe the woman thought she wasn’t Catholic b/c so many other “Christians” had told her so.

In the Protestant Armenian church I go to (once in a while) many of the members are Orthodox and have a hard time with the term, “saved.” Some of them will say, “No, I’m NOT saved.”(in Armenian) I get a kick out of that. To them, I think, it means “Protestant.”

I went to a Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic Church and saw a lot of this as well. The terms “saved” and “personal relationship with Jesus” wasn’t very popular there.

That’s tough for me. I consider myself to be an (strong) agnostic (weak) atheist. Since the poll seems to be about belief rather than knowledge, I went with “atheist.”

It was tought for me too. However, I’m an Agnostic Deist, so I went with “spiritual but not religious”. I felt it was the most honest answer. Sorry not to help “skew” your poll, but it seems as though you don’t need my help to do that.

As PZ Myers said:

They say you can’t herd cats; if you point the pride at a slow, stupid, old gazelle, though, you can get them all to take a bite.

Which seems to be exactly what has happened.

I don’t understand the intended purpose of King’s survey.

The intention is to measure which group has largest percentage of people drawn to opinion polls…..oh damn!

First, I think it should be noted that any atheist voting “for” atheism is tacitly admitting to something, namely, that atheism is a religion. But every atheist I know denounces the idea that atheism is one whit religious. Interesting.

Second, I note that the poll question is utterly absurd: “Which religion do you associate with?” Huh? As written, the question is merely asking of relation, not identity. It is not inquiring as to what religion I adhere; it is asking which one I associate with, which is far a different query. Surely I am a Christian, but I often associate with atheists, or even neo-pagans. So, in all good conscience, I could click the atheism button, or that vague “spiritual but of no religion” button, all day long.

This poll is so absurd, it exhales nihilism.

BG

A Christian is anyone who has been baptized. It can be performed by a priest, a layman, a heathen, a Metropolitan, a Pope or your local rabbi. If you mean it you are a Christian.

I’ve seen the “Catholic” v. “Christian” thing come up quite a bit and it really seems pretty funny. I think most Catholics would say that of course they’re Christians.
…the Catholic Church having been founded by… well… Christ, and the rest of them having been founded by… well… someone else.

A Metropolitan is an Archbishop, a bishop with the right to consecrate the other bishops in his province.

And although Mormons call themselves Christian, their theology is about as Christian as Jehovah’s Witness theology. In broader sense of the term “Christian,” one might call them that, but in a more precise sense they would not be, since they do not adhere to the Niceno-Constantinopolitan and Chalcedonian creeds.

Mormons are Christians. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not. Look it up.

I did. That reliable source of information that is never, ever wrong tells me the following:

Jehovah’s Witnesses are an international religion that rejects much of modern mainstream Christianity in favour of what they believe is a restored form of first-century Christianity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses

I also have a couple of friends (one raised in that religion and one who converted) who are Jehovah’s Witnesses (and defy their church by still speaking to me) who consider themselves to be followers of the teachings of Christ. While they reject much of the teachings of the modern church they are still Christians. With so many denominations, sects and cults coming out of the same book it’s hard to keep track.

I don’t know, I find JWs to be cult-like too.

sheesh people, get a life would ya. sitting around all day trying to skew polls? certainly there are better things more worthy of your time here?

regards,

Comrades,

We suggest atheist peoples consider winning tactics used in Hungarian (1945) vote to become communist:

Loading up school children on vehicle.

Taking them to all towns across mother country.

Having them vote in election.

Repeat until winning of vote. Then shoot anyone that is not liking system they are voted for.

Of course since commissar Gor has inventing web, this can be done more easy by clicking vote with spider script! Voting are like farting — the more you are doing it the better you are feeling!

See! Godless people can having morality! (Because they are defining what is moral, as it should be!)