Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Stop Talking. Just Stop.

The damage control begins.

Sherri Shepherd states that of course she knows the world is round. She was just caught up in a “senior brain-poopy moment”:

But she still denies evolution.

And she equates simple, basic science knowledge (the world ain’t flat) with “How many triglycerides does it take to make Pluto when the Robitussin comes…”

So she’s still the standout moron of the bunch.

Elisabeth Hasselbeck wants her title back, though.

Here’s what she said in defense of Shepherd:

I don’t think you have to learn to be perfect either… you’re just yourself. I thought you handled that so well yesterday. You said ‘You know I actually, my mind is full of what’s my son doing right now, what am I going to feed him for dinner, I’m a mom.’ Like I think that’s completely fine to say ‘You know what, today I don’t care if the earth is round or flat. I may not care tomorrow, I just wanna know that…’

Someone tell her to stop before she digs the hole even deeper.

(Via The Daily Background)


[tags]atheist, atheism, flat earth, The View[/tags]

  • http://emergingpensees.com Mike C

    The real question we all want to know Hemant, is why you are watching The View in the first place? ;)

  • http://www.templewhore.blogspot.com Slut

    Seriously!! That show is soooo awful, I can’t even watch with the sound off at the club. (shudders)

  • Richard Wade

    Why should anybody with half a brain give a coffee fart about whatever inanity happens on “The Breakfast Biddies?” I mean anybody who is watching TV at 11:00 AM definitely needs something better to do, or is home with the flu and wants to feel worse. I think there’s an inverse correlation between I.Q. and how early the television gets turned on. Which way the cause and effect goes is up to debate.

  • http://atheista.net benj

    That’s a shame. I liked Elisabeth when she was in Survivor. Haha

  • Valhar2000

    Well, given that I consider education to be a integral part of good parenting, I would say that wallowing in the most abject ignorance because she is too busy taking care of her kids undermines that very effort.

    But then, I am a Godless Evilutionist, so I’ll just go and eat another christian baby*.

    oops! I meant a baby of christian parents. Praise the High Priest Dawkins!

  • Kate

    Aaaaaaaaaaaargh it should NEVER be okay to say, “You know, I’m too busy being a mother to be intelligent.”

    *headdesk* repeat 50x

  • Valhar2000

    Or, of course, to injure a kitten.

  • http://darwinsdagger.blogspot.com Darwin’s Dagger

    Of course no one should spend any significant amount of time thinking about whether or not the Earth is spherical or flat. That’s just something that every moron should’ve learned in 3rd grade.

  • Mriana

    Oh this does not look good for The View. The smartest ones there are Whoopi, our dear Barbara, and that woman to the left of Whoopi. Sherri and Elisabeth are perpetuating the stereotypes of blondes and black women. :( I’m so glad Whoopi is there to conteract Sherri. I don’t agree with Whoopi, but she doesn’t show complete stupidity concerning her ideology either. At least she isn’t completely of the “God of the Gasp” theory, but she does have her own ideas about what happened before the Big Bang. That’s fine, because no one has that answer yet and if she wants to believe that God started it all then let it progress on it’s own like dominoes as he tells us, “You have brains, now take the ball and run with it”, who am I to tell her “No, there was nothing before the Big Bang?” At least she’s not saying all the usual dumb things of Creationists or being like Sherri.

    I think, since there is no answer, that I know of, to “What happened before the Big Bang?” we are entitled to satisfy that much of our questions in our own way until science says differently. This is not to say I cater to Creationism. On the contrary. Just conceding to those who have to have an answer to “What happened before the Big Bang?” We don’t know and so far we don’t have that answer. Deism, which is sort of what Whoopi was describing, is more acceptable than the theistic dogmatic POV of the Creationists, IMO. She was not putting God into Evolution everywhere there is a gap though like the Creationists do. Whoopi isn’t harming anyone with her belief.

    The other two are just bit ignorant and are frightenly perpetuating stereotypes, which is doing harm to themselves and others- like their children. Sherri needs to get her head out of the Bible though and learn some basic science and Elisabeth needs to get real.

    I don’t know, I guess I’m a little more lienent in some things than in others when it comes to religion or I tolerate some things a little better than extreme atheists do.

  • Karen

    Why should anybody with half a brain give a coffee fart about whatever inanity happens on “The Breakfast Biddies?” I mean anybody who is watching TV at 11:00 AM definitely needs something better to do, or is home with the flu and wants to feel worse.

    Ahem!! Richard, I know you are not disrespecting women and men who raise their children full-time or (like me) work from home offices, not to mention people whose workplaces have TVs on “in the background.” ;-)

    I do not watch daytime TV. I set that policy when I started working from home 18 years ago and haven’t deviated from it (even during the OJ and the Rodney King trials!) but I think we do need to care about a show that undoubtedly has wielded enormous cultural influence for something like a decade. If the audience is mostly female, which I assume it is, they are going to have great say over how children are taught when it comes to science and particularly evolution vs creationism.

    It would be nice to see science talked about positively on shows like that, and science extolled as something interesting and exciting. The fact that Barbara Walters made a kind remark about non-theists in the first episode was great, even though she was somewhat drowned out in the clamor.

    In terms of this episode, Elisabeth is doing what women everywhere do, which is being conciliatory and forgiving and kind. That’s very recognizable to me, and it’s just how women get along. And obviously these women need to get along because they work together daily. I’m hoping Sherri will actually learn something and get her consciousness elevated by rubbing shoulders with bright, accomplished people like Whoopi, Barbara and Joy Behar.

  • Siamang

    Of course no one should spend any significant amount of time thinking about whether or not the Earth is spherical or flat. That’s just something that every moron should’ve learned in 3rd grade.

    I’m proud to say my four-year-old daughter could school Sherri in astronomy.

  • http://badidea.wordpress.com Bad

    Oh, I dunno: I don’t think it’s a big deal for people to not be interested in science or facts larger than their own lives. It’s just a problem when they start claiming to both be capable judges of science and have an opinion on its validity. “I don’t care what the earth looks like, I care about my son” is a legitimate view. “I don’t care what the evidence says about evolution, I think it’s wrong” is not.

  • Siamang

    But Bad, shouldn’t there be a base-level of understanding of certain things?

    Like, if there were 20 things people should know about the world around them…

    Thinks like how to read, how to do simple add and subtract math, the idea that the American federal government has a president, not a king. You know, the “big picture, if you only know one thing about this field, it should be X”.

    Isn’t the one single fact, if you knew nothing else about world geography, wouldn’t that one single fact be that the earth is spherical?

    Like, of the top 20 things to know about the larger world… of the top 20 things any normally functioning five-year-old human being living in a non third-world nation should know, round earth is higher on that list than anything else I can think of.

  • Siamang

    I want to second what a commenter wrote on the linked article… not exactly wise to use the phrase “Senior brain-poopy moment” to defend your intelligence.

  • http://badidea.wordpress.com Bad

    But Bad, shouldn’t there be a base-level of understanding of certain things?

    You need to clarify what you mean by “should.” I certainly would like it if people, all people, looked into science and learned as much as possible about the world around them. But if someone just isn’t interested in that, what am I going to do? Force them to care? How?

    Other people have different priorities than myself.

  • Siamang

    But if someone just isn’t interested in that, what am I going to do? Force them to care? How?

    Shunning and ridicule are two good tools.

  • Richard Wade

    Ahem!! Richard, I know you are not disrespecting women and men who raise their children full-time or (like me) work from home offices, not to mention people whose workplaces have TVs on “in the background.”

    Karen you’re right, I’m not. Until my daughter came of age, I was the stay-at-home parent and since she moved out I’ve continued to work from my home.

    What is disrespectful to such people is the idea that the general level of tripe offered on such shows should be characterized as education or as promoting role models for personal intellectual improvement. I assume the owners of such an idea are the networks and their market research people, who apparently harbor great contempt for their daytime audience. They play to the lowest intellectual common denominator and hardly ever take the chance to challenge people. They assume their audience is so infantile that they’ll get bored. The marketers seem to operate on the formula, “When the ratings go down, dumb it down.” Life imitates art. If we broadcast thousands of hours of junk entertainment that occasionally climbs to a third grade level of comprehension, that’s the kind of general level of public mentality we’re going to get. From there the process is self-perpetuating; the broadcasters never take the risk of appealing to a higher level.

    Think about it: no disrespect to them, but we’re actually excited about Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters being the icons of intellectual excellence on daytime TV? That’s the best we can expect?

  • Karen

    The marketers seem to operate on the formula, “When the ratings go down, dumb it down.” Life imitates art. If we broadcast thousands of hours of junk entertainment that occasionally climbs to a third grade level of comprehension, that’s the kind of general level of public mentality we’re going to get. From there the process is self-perpetuating; the broadcasters never take the risk of appealing to a higher level.

    Here I totally agree with you, which is the reason my decision not to turn on the TV while I’m working at home wasn’t much of a sacrifice. On the other hand, there are many fine science programs on cable and public television if one takes the time to look for them. I suppose even those not “looking” probably stumble across them and get interested.

    Just last night I was watched a show about amateur astronomers that was inspiring and interesting. Surely it won’t get the ratings of The View, but someone must be watching and learning from that kind of thing. If only there were more of it!

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Hemant

    The real question we all want to know Hemant, is why you are watching The View in the first place? ;)

    The View? What’s that? Never heard of it. (Shh! You’ll give away my secret!)

    That’s a shame. I liked Elisabeth when she was in Survivor. Haha

    Me too! (I’m watching Survivor: China right now. Yay!)

  • Polly

    Maybe Hemant is preparing for a guest appearance!

  • stogoe

    I don’t think it’s a big deal for people to not be interested in science or facts larger than their own lives

    This is probably the most depressing thing I’ve ever heard. The world beyond daily life is amazing, and beautiful and terrifying and infinitely complex and infinitely huge. The joy of knowing things, and of learning and exploring, is the most important part of being human. The wonder of reality, and the wonder of figuring out how reality works, is what it’s all about.

    When I hear someone say that it’s okay to never look up from that pile of food in front of you, to never think about the world beyond your mortgage and your car payments and zombie-ing through another day at your demeaning job, I die a little inside.

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