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	<title>Comments on: Indiana&#8217;s &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; License Plates</title>
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		<title>By: Robert C. Harding</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/11/25/indianas-in-god-we-trust-license-plates/#comment-816709</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert C. Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you couldn&#039;t be more wrong if you tried. You obviously have never formally studied the writings of Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, and the rest. They were at best deists (non-Christians believe in a higher power, but not &quot;God&quot;) or downright atheists. You supposition is obviously based on a Fox News reading of political history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you couldn&#8217;t be more wrong if you tried. You obviously have never formally studied the writings of Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, and the rest. They were at best deists (non-Christians believe in a higher power, but not &#8220;God&#8221;) or downright atheists. You supposition is obviously based on a Fox News reading of political history.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/11/25/indianas-in-god-we-trust-license-plates/#comment-319713</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boB: &lt;em&gt;Those who dont fear God are doomed&lt;/em&gt;

Bob, this is precisely the kind of self-righteous rhetoric that turns people away from church and Christianity. I am pretty certain of that because I know such people, myself among them. I am aware that it (probably) comes from the Bible itself, but that doesn&#039;t make it any better.

On the topic, though... Is anybody petitioning for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.venganza.org/2008/04/28/religious-license-plates/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FSM license plates&lt;/a&gt;? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boB: <em>Those who dont fear God are doomed</em></p>
<p>Bob, this is precisely the kind of self-righteous rhetoric that turns people away from church and Christianity. I am pretty certain of that because I know such people, myself among them. I am aware that it (probably) comes from the Bible itself, but that doesn&#8217;t make it any better.</p>
<p>On the topic, though&#8230; Is anybody petitioning for <a href="http://www.venganza.org/2008/04/28/religious-license-plates/" rel="nofollow">FSM license plates</a>? <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: boB</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/11/25/indianas-in-god-we-trust-license-plates/#comment-300448</link>
		<dc:creator>boB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowhere in any document is the phrase &quot;seperation of church and state&quot;  This is a fictional statement.  Our founding fathers just did not want the government tell us which religion we had to subscribe to.  All of the founding fathers were men of faith and feared God.  Those who dont fear God are doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowhere in any document is the phrase &#8220;seperation of church and state&#8221;  This is a fictional statement.  Our founding fathers just did not want the government tell us which religion we had to subscribe to.  All of the founding fathers were men of faith and feared God.  Those who dont fear God are doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Elderbob</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/11/25/indianas-in-god-we-trust-license-plates/#comment-186598</link>
		<dc:creator>Elderbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sad this whole story is to me. One one side, the atheists, even the friendly one here, (hello, Sir. My name is Bob, by the way, but more of that later) is offended by the possibility of church and state linking together to promote, and display on a government medallion, an entity that bears proof of existence, not to mention relevance in world culture. Oh yeah, most importantly, I suppose, is the &quot;entity plate&quot; being subsidized by all taxpayers, God-fearin&#039; or otherwise. And the third thing that makes me see both sides of this; God is reduced to only serving, and being the great God of this nation because of a license plate that says &quot;In God we trust.&quot; I do believe in God, but I realize that a license plate only limits him. I know some people that see God in the woods, in the night sky, and in the eyes of their newborn daughters. They also think &quot;In God We Trust&quot; has turned from motto to weapon. &quot;I&#039;ll show these danged atheists, I&#039;ll get one of them God plates. Jesus said to be fishers of men, not HUNTERS! We come to the truth in our own time and place/or not, but it is based upon love taught by example, not by forced down our throats. 
Bob

&quot;It is clear to me that the enemy of Christianity are the Christians.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad this whole story is to me. One one side, the atheists, even the friendly one here, (hello, Sir. My name is Bob, by the way, but more of that later) is offended by the possibility of church and state linking together to promote, and display on a government medallion, an entity that bears proof of existence, not to mention relevance in world culture. Oh yeah, most importantly, I suppose, is the &#8220;entity plate&#8221; being subsidized by all taxpayers, God-fearin&#8217; or otherwise. And the third thing that makes me see both sides of this; God is reduced to only serving, and being the great God of this nation because of a license plate that says &#8220;In God we trust.&#8221; I do believe in God, but I realize that a license plate only limits him. I know some people that see God in the woods, in the night sky, and in the eyes of their newborn daughters. They also think &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; has turned from motto to weapon. &#8220;I&#8217;ll show these danged atheists, I&#8217;ll get one of them God plates. Jesus said to be fishers of men, not HUNTERS! We come to the truth in our own time and place/or not, but it is based upon love taught by example, not by forced down our throats.<br />
Bob</p>
<p>&#8220;It is clear to me that the enemy of Christianity are the Christians.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ACLU lost round 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACLU lost round 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d give an extra $1 to be assigned letters IM and numbers 4666.

They didn&#039;t nix the &quot;666&quot; plates from pool, which I think is hilarious.  I&#039;ve seen a few out and about, but not yet have I seen the IM 4666.

Also, you can decorate your plate however you wish so long as it does not obstruct the plate number, expiration, or other tags.  You could make a nice little sticker (the plates no worky with magnets) to cover up that little IGWT if you don&#039;t like it.  If you do, I&#039;d suggest you don&#039;t park it in the Wal*Mart parking lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d give an extra $1 to be assigned letters IM and numbers 4666.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t nix the &#8220;666&#8243; plates from pool, which I think is hilarious.  I&#8217;ve seen a few out and about, but not yet have I seen the IM 4666.</p>
<p>Also, you can decorate your plate however you wish so long as it does not obstruct the plate number, expiration, or other tags.  You could make a nice little sticker (the plates no worky with magnets) to cover up that little IGWT if you don&#8217;t like it.  If you do, I&#8217;d suggest you don&#8217;t park it in the Wal*Mart parking lot.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In God We Trust&quot; can also relate to the Jews and Muslims not just Christians.  Jews and Muslims ALSO believe in one God.  

Besides it certainly a lot better looking than our other regular issue plate, which is very, very boring looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; can also relate to the Jews and Muslims not just Christians.  Jews and Muslims ALSO believe in one God.  </p>
<p>Besides it certainly a lot better looking than our other regular issue plate, which is very, very boring looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Secular Dignity</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2007/11/25/indianas-in-god-we-trust-license-plates/#comment-137992</link>
		<dc:creator>Secular Dignity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I am coming to this late, but: I live in Chicago, Illinois, and I see these plate all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I am coming to this late, but: I live in Chicago, Illinois, and I see these plate all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since license plates are nothing BUT a government identification, then any religious monikers should definitely be considered a First Amendment violation, and done away with immediately.  Those who want the IGWT tags should pay the full price, while those who only want standard tags be given those at the usual lower cost.

I&#039;m quite offended at this McCarthyism gone mad syndrome we&#039;re currently into in this country.  These religious knuckleheads need to sell their homes and possessions, and totally move into their chosen churches, and stay there.  Hopefully there will be enough Kool-Aid for all of them to have seconds.  Where&#039;s Jim Jones when we need him ?

These MORONS don&#039;t seem to remember Matthew 6: 5-6 from their own bibles.  They want to shout religion from every high point, shove it in everyone&#039;s faces, and cram it down everyone&#039;s throats.  Yet their main man tells them, in so many words, to keep it to themselves for themselves.  A hypocrite by any other name, would not be.

I don&#039;t call it &quot;American Christianity&quot;, I call it The New Theo-Fascism, Theo-Naziism, or Churchianity.  Let us never forget the words of Sinclair Lewis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since license plates are nothing BUT a government identification, then any religious monikers should definitely be considered a First Amendment violation, and done away with immediately.  Those who want the IGWT tags should pay the full price, while those who only want standard tags be given those at the usual lower cost.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite offended at this McCarthyism gone mad syndrome we&#8217;re currently into in this country.  These religious knuckleheads need to sell their homes and possessions, and totally move into their chosen churches, and stay there.  Hopefully there will be enough Kool-Aid for all of them to have seconds.  Where&#8217;s Jim Jones when we need him ?</p>
<p>These MORONS don&#8217;t seem to remember Matthew 6: 5-6 from their own bibles.  They want to shout religion from every high point, shove it in everyone&#8217;s faces, and cram it down everyone&#8217;s throats.  Yet their main man tells them, in so many words, to keep it to themselves for themselves.  A hypocrite by any other name, would not be.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t call it &#8220;American Christianity&#8221;, I call it The New Theo-Fascism, Theo-Naziism, or Churchianity.  Let us never forget the words of Sinclair Lewis.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Charbonneau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Charbonneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what an idiot. does he know the “founders” started using the phrase “in god we trust” during the cold war?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It actually began appearing on the currency during the Civil War, but that was still long after all the &quot;founders&quot; were dead.  It officially became the national motto in 1956.  &quot;E pluribus unum&quot; had been a de facto motto up until then, although one never officially declared to be so in law by act of Congress.

I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s an idiot.  He may be a political genius.  Uneducated, perhaps -- his &quot;advanced degree&quot; is from the Reppart School of Auctioneering.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes I am an angry Christian. It is this “American Christianity” that has hurt the church more than anything since the inquisition&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Drop Mr. Burton a line at h58@IN.gov and let him know what you think.  Of course if you&#039;re not a constituent, he may not care what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what an idiot. does he know the “founders” started using the phrase “in god we trust” during the cold war?</p></blockquote>
<p>It actually began appearing on the currency during the Civil War, but that was still long after all the &#8220;founders&#8221; were dead.  It officially became the national motto in 1956.  &#8220;E pluribus unum&#8221; had been a de facto motto up until then, although one never officially declared to be so in law by act of Congress.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s an idiot.  He may be a political genius.  Uneducated, perhaps &#8212; his &#8220;advanced degree&#8221; is from the Reppart School of Auctioneering.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes I am an angry Christian. It is this “American Christianity” that has hurt the church more than anything since the inquisition</p></blockquote>
<p>Drop Mr. Burton a line at <a href="mailto:h58@IN.gov">h58@IN.gov</a> and let him know what you think.  Of course if you&#8217;re not a constituent, he may not care what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seeing the ‘In God We Trust’ license plate come to life is a momentous occasion for everyone involved. The symbolism portrayed by the American Flag displays our loyalty to the United States and the words of our founding fathers. It is my hope that thousands of Hoosiers will choose this plate and display it proudly.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
what an idiot.  does he know the &quot;founders&quot; started using the phrase &quot;in god we trust&quot; during the cold war?

Yes I am an angry Christian.  It is this &quot;American Christianity&quot; that has hurt the church more than anything since the inquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seeing the ‘In God We Trust’ license plate come to life is a momentous occasion for everyone involved. The symbolism portrayed by the American Flag displays our loyalty to the United States and the words of our founding fathers. It is my hope that thousands of Hoosiers will choose this plate and display it proudly.
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<p>what an idiot.  does he know the &#8220;founders&#8221; started using the phrase &#8220;in god we trust&#8221; during the cold war?</p>
<p>Yes I am an angry Christian.  It is this &#8220;American Christianity&#8221; that has hurt the church more than anything since the inquisition.</p>
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