Nothing Comes Before Christ… Obviously

Why don’t the other women on The View just come out and tell Sherri Shepherd she’s a moron? The ratings would go up, jaws across the country would rise back up to meet their respective faces, and I’d have one more video to post…

After telling her audience that she wasn’t sure if the world is flat and that she did not accept evolution, she is now saying that nothing in history predated Christianity:

I’m trying trying to decide whether I should cry or laugh…

The transcript:

Whoopi: Keep in mind probably when he was around there was no Jesus going on.
Sherri: No, they had Christians back then.
[Cross talk]
Sherri: They had Christians, they threw them to the lions.
[Cross talk]
Whoopi: I think this might predate that.
Joy: They believed in polytheism.
Sherri: I don’t think anything predated Christians.
Joy: No, the ancient Greeks were earlier. It went Greeks, Romans, then Christians.
Sherri: Jesus came first before them.
Whoopi: [Gently, bless her] Not on paper.



[tags]atheist, atheism[/tags]

  • http://www.eloquentatheist.com Michael

    I don’t think that we are allowed to throw cream pies at her, so I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, either. Idiots leave you with so few options. How about a tall stool and one of those pointy hats….?

  • Jen

    Jesus, as a concept, wouldn’t even work if he was the first thing in history. Now, I could see the argument she might be trying to make* which says that, “In the beginging, there was the word…” (John, I believe) wherein apparently “word” means “Jesus”, or at least that is what I learned in my NT class. Still, if you buy into that, that still doesn’t mean that Christians predate anything, it would mean Christ predates everything- but even the Bible doesn’t have Adam as Christian.

    At least Joy and Whoopi have brains.

    *But she probably is too stupid to do so

  • Mriana

    Sherri, Sherri, Sherri. *Mriana shakes head* I want to grab that woman, shake her and tell her, “Break out of the superstitious stereotype Black woman mold!” Jesus Christ! Whoopi has more brains, she uses them, and definitely NOT stereotype. I see far too many Black people like Sherri. Whoopi is refreshing!

    I’m just glad my sons aren’t superstitious or at least not like Sherri. I wonder how Sherri would react if I gave her a few lessons concerning mythology (including Christianity)?

  • Mriana

    Jen said,

    December 4, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Jesus, as a concept,

    When I got done with Sherri, she would either understand that the Jesus myth was a rewrite of/a series of midrashes from other myths or she’d end up in the Funny Farm because she can’t handle the truth. One of the two.

  • http://www.jaredmlee.net jared

    I would just like to say that some of us know better… really we do.

  • http://davidernst.net/blog David

    Yeah, it really highlights the difference between an average Believer and someone truly misguided… Even as an (American) atheist I’d be embarrassed to display such preposterous lack of understanding of the bible. Terrible. I think I’d feel more offended if I were a Christian.

  • http://skepticsplay.blogspot.com/ miller

    If Sherri had said this a few months ago, she totally could have won your contest.

  • The Unbrainwashed

    Sherri also unabashedly stated that she would not vote for “someone without faith” for president. This woman is not only a disgrace to the View, she’s a disgrace to humanity.

  • http://emergingpensees.com MikeClawson

    How did someone that clueless about the basics of world history ever even graduate high school?

  • cautious

    From Ms. Shepherd’s wikipedia page:

    “Raised in a Jehovah’s Witness family, Shepherd later chose to become a born-again Christian in her adulthood after moving to Los Angeles, California.”

    Being raised in a household based on a religious viewpoint that doesn’t encourage critical thinking probably stunted her mental growth. Poor lass.

  • Mriana

    cautious said,

    December 5, 2007 at 1:38 am

    From Ms. Shepherd’s wikipedia page:

    “Raised in a Jehovah’s Witness family, Shepherd later chose to become a born-again Christian in her adulthood after moving to Los Angeles, California.”

    Well that explains the crazy woman. She never received an education and can’t think for herself.

    Being raised in a household based on a religious viewpoint that doesn’t encourage critical thinking probably stunted her mental growth. Poor lass.

    Her growth is stunted, that’s for sure.

  • http://darwinsdagger.blogspot.com Darwin’s Dagger

    Wasn’t there a whole Old Testament even before Jesus was born? How much of a good Christian can she be if she’s never heard of Abraham or Moses?

  • http://limadean.wordpress.com limadean

    She. Is. Craaaaazy.

  • http://www.cogspace.com/ Katie Molnar

    She had to be an idiot if she choose to move out here. There is scarcely a worse place to live in the US compared to Southern CA. We only get three seasons: earthquake, fire, and landslide. You’re likely to die of skin cancer or heat stroke and a fixer-upper a block from the freeway is a million bucks.

    Or, was before the housing market started crashing.

    Seriously. I’d be praying my way out of here if I were the deluded praying sort. =)

    The only good thing about CA is the liberal attitude, and that’s rather lacking down here as compared to NorCal. There must be more rednecks driving around with dogs in the beds of their pickups here than in Arkansas. Scary, that.

    Oh, and this is why The View (or is it The Vue? I can’t remember which is which.) now sucks. Utter moron. -_-

    –k8

  • Karen

    There must be more rednecks driving around with dogs in the beds of their pickups here than in Arkansas. Scary, that.

    What?! Where in the world are you? I’ve lived here all my life and I’ve certainly not seen an over-abundance of rednecks. I haven’t even seen a pickup with a dog in it for years and years.

  • Mriana

    jared said,

    December 4, 2007 at 11:13 pm

    I would just like to say that some of us know better… really we do.

    If you are talking Black people, I know some do know better, but sadly one of the stereotypes ignorant Whites have is that all Black people are superstitious. :roll: This is not true and Whoopi is showing that, which is a very good thing. I only hope she can combat Sherri’s behaviour.

    So don’t take that statement to mean I’m boxing in ALL Black people. I’m not. I know from experience this is not true and it’s one stereotype I wish would cease to exist, but it is people like Sherri who help perpetuate it. :( She’s not only not helping humanity, but she’s also not helping her own people with her ignorance.

    Now if you mean Christians as a whole, yes, some do know better. She’s not helping any of them either. If she were White, she’d probably have true blonde hair and perpetuating that stereotype. :roll: Something many intelligent blondes try to fight.

    Basically, as someone else said, she’s a disgrace to humanity, because whatever group she was in, she’d be perpetuating the stereotype of that group, making them look worse than what they really are. Thus, it’s extremely good that there are others there to conteract her ignorance.

    limadean said,

    December 5, 2007 at 10:14 am

    She. Is. Craaaaazy.

    Love the Kirk impression. :) To clarify- Capt. James T. Kirk of the Star Trek Enterprise, not Kirk Cameron.

  • Mark Kinn

    Ignorance is the tool of religion to keep people in line by stopping the sheep from asking questions.

    It should not surprise anyone, that a group of people who believe Jesus rode a dinosaur, do not know much about history.

    It does surprise me, that she is still on the View. I guess the View wants the opinions of the idiots.

  • Old Beezle

    Maybe she honestly meant that, in the eternal scheme of things, Jesus–the Creator of the Universe–really did come first…

    Nah…she jus’ dumb!

    P.S. Jesus didn’t create anything except for maybe some nice cabinetry.

  • http://skepticsplay.blogspot.com/ miller

    She had to be an idiot if she choose to move out here. There is scarcely a worse place to live in the US compared to Southern CA. We only get three seasons: earthquake, fire, and landslide. You’re likely to die of skin cancer or heat stroke and a fixer-upper a block from the freeway is a million bucks.

    I take exception to that. Earthquakes are way better than hurricanes or other natural disasters because the big ones only happen every decade or so, and I still end up sleeping through them. I live a block from the freeway, and I’m fairly sure our house didn’t cost that much. Also, skin cancer and heat stroke? Wait, you must be joking! ;)

    Oh, but the fact that Sherri lives here has got to be a strike against us. Can we banish her to the other side of her flat earth?

  • Mriana

    Sadly, she would fit too well with the nuts in my area. :roll:

  • http://daybydayhsing.blogspot.com Dawn

    I think I’d feel more offended if I were a Christian.

    I’m Christian and I’m not offended. We all have our Stupids. I just wish there weren’t so many damn Christian Stupids on the TV because while I’m not offended, I am embarrassed.

  • http://emergingpensees.com MikeClawson

    I take exception to that. Earthquakes are way better than hurricanes or other natural disasters because the big ones only happen every decade or so, and I still end up sleeping through them. I live a block from the freeway, and I’m fairly sure our house didn’t cost that much. Also, skin cancer and heat stroke? Wait, you must be joking! ;)

    Or you could be truly rational and move to the Midwest where all you have to deal with is blizzards and the occasional tornado. :)

  • Mriana

    I personally prefer the occassional tornado because if the NWS is on the job, you have plenty of warning to hide from it. One cannot hide from an earthquake or get warning before hand. Hurricanes I think would be just as bad because you can’t hide from them and hope your home is undamaged when you return. You can only evacuate with enough prior warning.

  • Richard Wade

    Katie said,

    We only get three seasons: earthquake, fire, and landslide.

    I’m a third generation SoCalian, and out here the four official seasons are fire, flood, smog and a changing season that depends on whatever keeps us indoors all day glued to our TV’s. One year was fire, flood, smog and riot. Another was fire, flood, smog and OJ. Later one was fire, flood, smog and Monica. More recently one was fire, flood, smog and twin towers. Right after that we had fire, flood, smog and shock-and-awe. This year will be officially recorded as fire, flood, smog and howstupiddoesBushthinkweare.

    As for earthquakes, meh. I’ve been through four bad enough to damage buildings and I missed dying in the last one by four hours. When we feel aftershocks we guess at the magnitude without any distraction from what we are doing. The most powerful earthquake ever in this country was in New Madrid, Missouri in 1812, and it made the 1906 San Francisco quake look like a hiccup. It’s all about how well and how much you build. In California we are reminded often enough to keep our building codes the strictest in the country. I suspect they’re more lax in Missouri because they don’t remember. So Midwesterners, bolt your tall furniture to the walls like we do out here, and know how to shut off your natural gas.

    The scariest disaster is a pandemic of Stupid. It can start almost anywhere in this country and when conditions are right it can be more devastating than the Black Plague. Sherri Shepherd’s case of Stupid just shows that those conditions are beginning to stack up.

  • Old Beezle

    Richard Wade:

    The scariest disaster is a pandemic of Stupid. It can start almost anywhere in this country and when conditions are right it can be more devastating than the Black Plague. Sherri Shepherd’s case of Stupid just shows that those conditions are beginning to stack up.

    Now that would truly be a disaster of Biblical proportions!

  • http://religiouscomics.net Jeff

    Maybe Sherri is actually an extremely intelligent atheist under cover as a stupid uneducated religious dolt with a mission to say stupid ignorant things on television to make religious people look bad… Naaaa

  • Mriana

    The most powerful earthquake ever in this country was in New Madrid, Missouri in 1812, and it made the 1906 San Francisco quake look like a hiccup.

    Which is set to go off again soon. I dread it, because I’ve never been in an earthquake and it is said when it goes off that big, we will feel it in SW MO. :( Now, I know it won’t hit my area as bad as it will St Louy, Cape Gerodo, St. Genevie (I can’t spell towns in my own state :( ) and all the other river cities/towns, but I still dread it. The building codes here suck in comparison to CA. The scary thing is, they are preparing us for it, not just near the river, but even here in SW MO. If I feel the house shake, I’m getting out of my house as fast as I can. BTW, the university has parking garages on unstable ground. If you’re in this area, avoid the parking garages.

  • Mriana

    It does surprise me, that she is still on the View. I guess the View wants the opinions of the idiots.

    I thought the same thing. How does Barbara, Whoopi, and Joy work with Sherri? Maybe they have to work around her by saying things like, “On paper”, even though they know better. Who knows.

  • Darryl

    You know, this does make me wonder something: have standards of Bible education in churches slipped over the years? Do Christians know less about Biblical stuff now than they used to? Or is this just a single isolated case of a high-profile ignoramus?

  • Mriana

    Darryl said,

    December 5, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    You know, this does make me wonder something: have standards of Bible education in churches slipped over the years? Do Christians know less about Biblical stuff now than they used to? Or is this just a single isolated case of a high-profile ignoramus?

    I think it depends on what denomination you’re talking about.

  • http://whocares.com ben

    We Christian make enough fun of Atheists too. Everyone thinks he is on the right path, until death comes.

  • Richard Wade

    I know it’s off topic, but maybe an intelligent chat about earthquake safety is better than an endless agreement about how stupid Sherri Shepherd is.
    Mriana,

    If I feel the house shake, I’m getting out of my house as fast as I can.

    If your house is made of wood you’re in one of the safest structures ever built as far as earthquakes go. Running outside can get you clobbered by stuff falling off the roof or exterior walls. If it’s a really big quake you won’t be able to stay on your feet anyway. The three main dangers in a wood house are the unfixed furniture like bookcases and refrigerators flying around, (they really jump) an unreinforced chimney falling onto the roof and then into the rooms, and fire from gas pipes left on after the shaking stops. You can take care of all that ahead of time with just a little effort.

  • Mriana

    This house is not as stable as you may think. I’ve been here two years and the landlord hasn’t done any upkeep on it. The unit next to me is in worse shape and I’m surprised he is allowed to rent it out that way. She has a water leak under her bathroom floor and the floor is rotted out in her bathroom. The ceiling over there, well I’d be scared to death of it.

    My unit (side of the duplex) is better, but only because we’ve done a lot of upkeep ourselves. I think drafts are my main complaint, but I’m sure her side affects ours, esp in the water pressure dept. If I were a housing inspector, I’d condemn that side of the duplex and make him bring the whole house up to code.

    How do you take of the gas ahead of time when you don’t know when it’s coming?

    Unfortunately, we’re not ready to move again yet, but we’re working on it.

  • Karen

    Running outside is not good because of the electrical power lines that may be falling and the threat of electrocution. Best bet is to get under a reinforced doorway or a heavy table, so that if something falls it won’t be on top of you.

  • Richard Wade

    How do you take of the gas ahead of time when you don’t know when it’s coming?

    Know where the gas shut-off valve for your building is and have a wrench or whatever tool will turn it stored right there with the valve. It’s usually at the meter. Chain the wrench to the meter so it doesn’t walk away. After the shaking stops you can shut off the gas supply so that if there are any leaks inside the building the gas won’t build up. Electricity is usually knocked out the instant a strong quake hits but when the power comes back on, if gas has been building up in the house an electrical spark from a damaged wire or an automatic pilot lighter can cause an explosion. This happened to an unoccupied house in my neighborhood. It went off like a bomb. Knowing where your unit’s water and electricity valves and switches are is also helpful.

    There are gas valves available that automatically shut off gas supply when there is a temblor strong enough to damage pipes, but your building’s owner doesn’t sound like he’s interested in such things.

    If your water heater is inside your unit or where you keep your car, strap the tank to the wall with metal strapping and bolts. You can find instructions online. It is the single heaviest object in most homes and it’s deadly. It can crush or scald residents and of course break gas pipes.

    Isn’t this more pleasant than talking about morons on TV?

  • Mriana

    Yeah. Right now, I’m dreading another predicted ice storm in a few days. They are saying it will be worse than the one in January. :cry: I don’t think I can handle another ice storm that knocks out our electricity for days. :cry:

  • portia

    The earth is about as flat as her stomach and her sense of reality. I’m just shocked they hired another right wing freak. I mean I understand balance, but she is so far removed from reality she is not even balanced herself. And she’s making millions to be able to say shit like that! Bad Barbara for picking her!!!

  • brit kid

    how dumb can americans really get? and to think that these are the people who hold the power to blow up the world 10 times over…. poor us Brits…


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