Comments on: The “Free Day Away” Program http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/ by Hemant Mehta Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: matt http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-344200 matt Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:17:35 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-344200 I have been through basic training at FLW, the free day away program was amazing! up until the church service, but like many before me wrote they give me a day way push ups, i survive a hour service. well i did, and it wasn't too bad, in no way did they make me believe anything, they were just showing me how Christ could be my savior! which if you believe in God this is good, and those that did got that settled, but the option to go was given by the dS, the alternative wasn't as good as going but there was still the option. the program is completely funded by the church, using church buses, using church gas, all the soda/candy...etc is sold at cost. the church is not making any money off of the program. It might not be for me but it was very insightful, the workers (church) members donate their time weekly and are dedicated to serve the soldiers. even though most of you might not agree with me i am appreciative of the program, the get away from stress and would wish that you would give it a chance, and not be so judgmental. they are just acting on what they believe to be truth. I have been through basic training at FLW, the free day away program was amazing! up until the church service, but like many before me wrote they give me a day way push ups, i survive a hour service. well i did, and it wasn’t too bad, in no way did they make me believe anything, they were just showing me how Christ could be my savior! which if you believe in God this is good, and those that did got that settled, but the option to go was given by the dS, the alternative wasn’t as good as going but there was still the option. the program is completely funded by the church, using church buses, using church gas, all the soda/candy…etc is sold at cost. the church is not making any money off of the program. It might not be for me but it was very insightful, the workers (church) members donate their time weekly and are dedicated to serve the soldiers. even though most of you might not agree with me i am appreciative of the program, the get away from stress and would wish that you would give it a chance, and not be so judgmental. they are just acting on what they believe to be truth.

]]> By: Friendly Atheist » Americans United Asks Department of Defense to Investigate Proselytizing Military Base http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-207132 Friendly Atheist » Americans United Asks Department of Defense to Investigate Proselytizing Military Base Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:00:49 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-207132 [...] this year, I wrote about the “Free Day Away” program at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. Here’s what I wrote then: It holds a number [...] [...] this year, I wrote about the “Free Day Away” program at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. Here’s what I wrote then: It holds a number [...]

]]> By: ann http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-188563 ann Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:44:46 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-188563 good luck trying to shut the program down! just remember who you will be fighting against......GOD. you know........GOD.........all powerful...creator of everything......including you. do you really think you came from a big bang? or from monkeys? maybe you did come from a monkey , you sure are thinking like one!!! good luck trying to shut the program down!

just remember who you will be fighting against……GOD.

you know……..GOD………all powerful…creator of everything……including you.

do you really think you came from a big bang? or from monkeys? maybe you did come from a monkey , you sure are thinking like one!!!

]]> By: Jake http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-181800 Jake Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:16:26 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-181800 I attended the free day away in May of 2007 solely to get away from drill instructors and eat junk food but was subjected to the most disturbing rant I have ever seen. I don't remember the exact details but the sermon involved burning flesh and eternal damnation of a teenage girl because she had not been "saved." This church is about brainwashing and uses fear and control. When i get out of the Army one of my top priorities in life will be to shut down this unconstitutional and unethical disgrace of a program. If it means moving to Missouri and suing for my right to open a competing program for service members that do not want to be preached to and working full time to provide food and activities at no cost to them, then <em>as god as my witness</em> I will. It will never cease to amaze me the amount of service members that have never read the document which they have sworn to defend with their lives. I attended the free day away in May of 2007 solely to get away from drill instructors and eat junk food but was subjected to the most disturbing rant I have ever seen. I don’t remember the exact details but the sermon involved burning flesh and eternal damnation of a teenage girl because she had not been “saved.” This church is about brainwashing and uses fear and control. When i get out of the Army one of my top priorities in life will be to shut down this unconstitutional and unethical disgrace of a program. If it means moving to Missouri and suing for my right to open a competing program for service members that do not want to be preached to and working full time to provide food and activities at no cost to them, then as god as my witness I will.

It will never cease to amaze me the amount of service members that have never read the document which they have sworn to defend with their lives.

]]> By: jmc http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-139690 jmc Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:35:20 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-139690 God is sovereign and his will is always best. I dont know your situation but Rom. 8:28 says "all things work together to them that love God." I am sorry that you have had a bad experience but God is never to fault. He loves you and wants you to talk to him about your pain. God is sovereign and his will is always best. I dont know your situation but Rom. 8:28 says “all things work together to them that love God.” I am sorry that you have had a bad experience but God is never to fault. He loves you and wants you to talk to him about your pain.

]]> By: Jeanne http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-137713 Jeanne Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:30:53 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-137713 "My god can beat up your god." Isn't that what it's all about? Certainly the old testament is full of inter-god competition. I have a personal relationship with God. In fact, God and I have an agreement - I leave him alone and he leaves me alone. I did what he asked - prayed over every decision, followed his will - and he stabbed me in the back. 30 years later, it is STILL clear that he betrayed me by not being there for me. None of the horrible things that happened to me as a result of praying and following his will were necessary to make my life meaningful to me personally or to the world. To say "it is a mystery" is a cop-out. If there's a creator, s/he gave us intelligence so that we could use it, not ignore it. That's my testimony. Amen and amen. “My god can beat up your god.”

Isn’t that what it’s all about? Certainly the old testament is full of inter-god competition.

I have a personal relationship with God. In fact, God and I have an agreement – I leave him alone and he leaves me alone. I did what he asked – prayed over every decision, followed his will – and he stabbed me in the back. 30 years later, it is STILL clear that he betrayed me by not being there for me. None of the horrible things that happened to me as a result of praying and following his will were necessary to make my life meaningful to me personally or to the world. To say “it is a mystery” is a cop-out. If there’s a creator, s/he gave us intelligence so that we could use it, not ignore it.

That’s my testimony. Amen and amen.

]]> By: Jonathan Cano http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134798 Jonathan Cano Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:56:08 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134798 please tell me the chapter and verse because i would like to know them. Your writings were written by men, No? you keep bringing up Episcopalian religion. I am not bringing up religion. Religion sends more people to hell than anything else. I only speak Bible. The final authority in all matters. please tell me the chapter and verse because i would like to know them. Your writings were written by men, No? you keep bringing up Episcopalian religion. I am not bringing up religion. Religion sends more people to hell than anything else. I only speak Bible. The final authority in all matters.

]]> By: Mriana http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134717 Mriana Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:04:24 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134717 <blockquote>it is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Thanks for talking and chatting about this i find it a privelage to brag on my God!</blockquote> No, it was written by men and inspired by men, as well as rewritten myth. It is hardly inerrant, even on a scientific level.

it is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Thanks for talking and chatting about this i find it a privelage to brag on my God!

No, it was written by men and inspired by men, as well as rewritten myth. It is hardly inerrant, even on a scientific level.

]]> By: Jonathan Cano http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134714 Jonathan Cano Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:59:15 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134714 to dah, thanks for your stand. whats funny is that all these writings they recommend are from men, human beings, men that make mistakes, sinful men, not perfect men. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, perfect, all-knowing, all powerful, just, holy, merciful, and despite all the false things that these other people believe due to the devil blinding them, He still loves them just as much as He loves us. By the way its not guilt ridden preaching, it is Holy Spirit conviction. And something else, it is not a story book. it is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Thanks for talking and chatting about this i find it a privelage to brag on my God! to dah,

thanks for your stand. whats funny is that all these writings they recommend are from men, human beings, men that make mistakes, sinful men, not perfect men. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, perfect, all-knowing, all powerful, just, holy, merciful, and despite all the false things that these other people believe due to the devil blinding them, He still loves them just as much as He loves us. By the way its not guilt ridden preaching, it is Holy Spirit conviction. And something else, it is not a story book. it is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Thanks for talking and chatting about this i find it a privelage to brag on my God!

]]> By: Mriana http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134459 Mriana Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:51:50 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/01/21/the-free-day-away-program/#comment-134459 <blockquote>Siamang said, February 28, 2008 at 6:33 pm But Mriana, did your Bibles have the word “Jesus” in it? From what I hear, only the King James version has that. I hear that the NIV doesn’t have even have the word “blood” in it. Instead of “blood” it says “silly putty,” instead of “sins” it says “crab cakes” and instead of “the son of God” it says “JoJo the underpants kitty.” So fair warning, Mriana. Fair warning.</blockquote> :lol: ROFLMBO! Good one, Siamang! :) <blockquote>dah said, February 28, 2008 at 6:34 pm to mriana there is still hope for you. i am going to pray for you. i’m done.</blockquote> Oh, yes. Nothing fails like prayer. Gotta love you though, even though you are superstitious and all. At least you do realize that I do know what the story book says. I'm just sadden that you missed what it really is- more of the same mythology rewritten. Anyway, while you're at it, why don't you pray for yourself?

Siamang said,

February 28, 2008 at 6:33 pm

But Mriana, did your Bibles have the word “Jesus” in it?

From what I hear, only the King James version has that.

I hear that the NIV doesn’t have even have the word “blood” in it.

Instead of “blood” it says “silly putty,” instead of “sins” it says “crab cakes” and instead of “the son of God” it says “JoJo the underpants kitty.”

So fair warning, Mriana. Fair warning.

:lol: ROFLMBO! Good one, Siamang! :)

dah said,

February 28, 2008 at 6:34 pm

to mriana
there is still hope for you. i am going to pray for you.

i’m done.

Oh, yes. Nothing fails like prayer. Gotta love you though, even though you are superstitious and all. At least you do realize that I do know what the story book says. I’m just sadden that you missed what it really is- more of the same mythology rewritten. Anyway, while you’re at it, why don’t you pray for yourself?

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