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	<title>Comments on: Atheist Alley</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Trexler</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/04/atheist-alley/#comment-123599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Trexler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you enjoyed the pic! 

A few words about the translation:

If you look at Russian-English dictionaries--including the standard versions published in the USSR throughout the Soviet era and afterwards--you&#039;ll find that the noun form of the English atheist is &lt;em&gt;bezbozhnik&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;em&gt;Bezbozhnii&lt;/em&gt; is the adjectival form.

Yes, one can literally translate &lt;em&gt;bezbozhnii&lt;/em&gt; as &quot;without god&quot; or &quot;godless.&quot;  But the same is true of atheist, which is an adjectival form derived from the Greek &lt;em&gt;theos&lt;/em&gt; (god) and &lt;em&gt;a-&lt;/em&gt;, which, like &lt;em&gt;bez-&lt;/em&gt;, is a prefix signifying privation.  

When choosing a translation, it&#039;s important to respect nuances in meaning, especially implicit connotation.  There&#039;s a linguistic reason this site isn&#039;t &quot;friendlygodlessperson.com&quot;--historically the word &quot;godless&quot; had a negative connotation; it was a value judgment as much as a description.  &quot;Atheist&quot; emerged as a more-or-less neutral descriptive term, with the Greek itself conveying philosophical respectability.   

It&#039;s precisely this value that Soviet rhetoric sought to convey.  Soviet atheism spoke of itself as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+philosophy+scientific+soviet&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;science&lt;/a&gt;--not the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=godless+bolshevism&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;godless bolshevism&lt;/a&gt;&quot; decried by Western critics, but a scientific rationalism grounded in the natural order.    

In short, Atheist Alley is not just a literal translation--it also more accurately reflects &lt;em&gt;bezbozhnii&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s meaning in a culture framed by Marxist orthodoxy and not the Russian Orthodox Church.

Protopopovkskii Pereulok, on the other hand . . . &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=bozhe+moi&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bozhe moi&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you enjoyed the pic! </p>
<p>A few words about the translation:</p>
<p>If you look at Russian-English dictionaries&#8211;including the standard versions published in the USSR throughout the Soviet era and afterwards&#8211;you&#8217;ll find that the noun form of the English atheist is <em>bezbozhnik</em>.  <em>Bezbozhnii</em> is the adjectival form.</p>
<p>Yes, one can literally translate <em>bezbozhnii</em> as &#8220;without god&#8221; or &#8220;godless.&#8221;  But the same is true of atheist, which is an adjectival form derived from the Greek <em>theos</em> (god) and <em>a-</em>, which, like <em>bez-</em>, is a prefix signifying privation.  </p>
<p>When choosing a translation, it&#8217;s important to respect nuances in meaning, especially implicit connotation.  There&#8217;s a linguistic reason this site isn&#8217;t &#8220;friendlygodlessperson.com&#8221;&#8211;historically the word &#8220;godless&#8221; had a negative connotation; it was a value judgment as much as a description.  &#8220;Atheist&#8221; emerged as a more-or-less neutral descriptive term, with the Greek itself conveying philosophical respectability.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s precisely this value that Soviet rhetoric sought to convey.  Soviet atheism spoke of itself as a <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+philosophy+scientific+soviet&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">science</a>&#8211;not the &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=godless+bolshevism&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">godless bolshevism</a>&#8221; decried by Western critics, but a scientific rationalism grounded in the natural order.    </p>
<p>In short, Atheist Alley is not just a literal translation&#8211;it also more accurately reflects <em>bezbozhnii</em>&#8216;s meaning in a culture framed by Marxist orthodoxy and not the Russian Orthodox Church.</p>
<p>Protopopovkskii Pereulok, on the other hand . . . <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=bozhe+moi&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">Bozhe moi</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Mriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it.  :)  Renacier, take me with you?  :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it.  <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Renacier, take me with you?  <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Milena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to comment to give the literal translation, but I see Anatoly beat me to it. By the way Daggerstab, I&#039;m Bulgarian too. Yeah, and my grandmother still refers to many streets by their communist names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to comment to give the literal translation, but I see Anatoly beat me to it. By the way Daggerstab, I&#8217;m Bulgarian too. Yeah, and my grandmother still refers to many streets by their communist names.</p>
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		<title>By: J Sveda</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Sveda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daggerstab, I thought that it has got sth to do with priests (East Orthodox priests are called &#039;pops&#039;). The reason of renaming isn&#039;t surprising at all, too - Soviet Union dissolved in &#039;91, just few years before the photo was taken. Only place was spared and I just don&#039;t know why - the Red Square.

BTW I&#039;m from former Eastern Bloc country too - the Czech Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daggerstab, I thought that it has got sth to do with priests (East Orthodox priests are called &#8216;pops&#8217;). The reason of renaming isn&#8217;t surprising at all, too &#8211; Soviet Union dissolved in &#8217;91, just few years before the photo was taken. Only place was spared and I just don&#8217;t know why &#8211; the Red Square.</p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;m from former Eastern Bloc country too &#8211; the Czech Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Daggerstab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daggerstab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new one? &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archpriest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Archpriest&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s Alley&quot;. I am not surprised - &quot;decommunization&quot; of street names was common in Eastern Europe during the 1990s. (For the record - I&#039;m not Russian, I am Bulgrian and I had to look it up in the dictionary.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new one? &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archpriest" rel="nofollow">Archpriest</a>&#8216;s Alley&#8221;. I am not surprised &#8211; &#8220;decommunization&#8221; of street names was common in Eastern Europe during the 1990s. (For the record &#8211; I&#8217;m not Russian, I am Bulgrian and I had to look it up in the dictionary.)</p>
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		<title>By: J Sveda</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/04/atheist-alley/#comment-123396</link>
		<dc:creator>J Sveda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renacier, sorry to say that, but i made litte research using good old friend Google and i turns out that since 1993 the lane was renamed to &quot;Protopopovskiy pereulok&quot;. If you still want to see where it is, look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=protopopovskiy+pereulok&amp;sll=55.780483,37.63665&amp;sspn=0.004598,0.014055&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=55.780604,37.633195&amp;spn=0.004598,0.014055&amp;z=16&amp;om=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google maps&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder what the new name means in English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renacier, sorry to say that, but i made litte research using good old friend Google and i turns out that since 1993 the lane was renamed to &#8220;Protopopovskiy pereulok&#8221;. If you still want to see where it is, look at <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=protopopovskiy+pereulok&amp;sll=55.780483,37.63665&amp;sspn=0.004598,0.014055&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=55.780604,37.633195&amp;spn=0.004598,0.014055&amp;z=16&amp;om=0" rel="nofollow">Google maps</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder what the new name means in English?</p>
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		<title>By: Anatoly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anatoly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Godless alley&quot; if you translate it literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Godless alley&#8221; if you translate it literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Renacier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renacier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, now I have to go to Russia and steal a sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, now I have to go to Russia and steal a sign.</p>
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